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Finally finished. Please let me know if there are any obvious issues that will affect my applications for EI and centurion. thank you so much to Bryan @trooper96 for the amazing 3D print files. Your work is incredible. I don’t know how many times I shoved parts in my wife’s face and said “look at this, look at the detail, it actually works”.3 points
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Excellent point, Tino, and you are 100% correct! I noticed these details as well during my very first DD resin build many years ago, but after looking at the ones that had been approved they all seemed to be vertical so I went with what was the most common (and still is). It may have something to do with the fact that the originals were glued and they needed a larger contact surface for better adhesion, but now days we attach them to the scope rail with mounts/screws and it's easier to make it more vertical. (Aesthetically I actually prefer that vertical look, but that's just me). Since troopers (and blaster makers) have been doing it this way since way before I joined, and as long as doesn't sit too far back or forward I have no issue passing one at higher levels either way. The power cylinders/mounting plate should ideally (there's that word again) be parallel with the angle at the end of the magazine well and not with the main body. This was just meant to be an overview of the differences in the weapons and a basic reference, but since these items are indeed screen accurate I have added both items to the main thread. Thanks for the input, mein bruder!2 points
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Wow! Outstanding job, Joseph. Looking at your reference photos below, I just noticed the counters being parallel to the folding stock, not the receiver tube. Hadn't seen this before so all my builds and the FISD E-11 Blaster Reference show the parallel installation. How do we treat this? Leave it up to everybody individually? Seems to be the same issue with the placement of the power cylinders on top of the magazine well: parallel to the receiver tube or parallel to the angled end of the magazine well? What do you think?2 points
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And here is a picture of my finished ab buttons on the armor. Th And here is a picture of my finished ab buttons on the armor. Thank you!!!2 points
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i noticed the rear sight is flipped to the 100m aperture. If you will flip that to the 200m aperture, the rear tab of the scope rail will sit a little higher and level that Hengstler. If you like the way it looks at the 100m setting, just shim underneath the scope rail where the screw attaches, until the Hengstler is level.1 point
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Thanks for catching that Glen. It is slightly tipped. It looks like the back of the scope rail needs a little lift where it attaches and it should straighten out.1 point
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Just for your information posting in one forum will give you an answer, you don't need to post in several areas1 point
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You won't be able too unless you are legion approved, more info here https://www.501st.com/members/join_form.php Once you have an approved legion costume you can then request higher access to this forum and then would be able to post in that area.1 point
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I bet the boiled water trick could work on thinner cast parts, but this is very thick. So it would probably take a lot more work to save…. But, Marc sent me a replacement, and it arrived last week. Thanks Marc!1 point
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Welcome aboard Alyssa! Definitely head over to our first order section as Glen mentions. Plenty of resources there and many experienced members here to help you on your journey. Research is the key, but the more questions you ask the better the help we can give you. We do indeed have some great women in this detachment who can certainly offer advice on building for a shorter height, but most anything is possible. Look forward to seeing a build thread once you make your choices on armour maker and components. Best of luck, here to help.1 point
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Hi David, There was a security update that made that change. Your user name is public so some one already has half what they need to get into any account. If you message me what you think your other accounts email is then we can start figuring out what the issue is. Thanks. Chris.1 point
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NEW Detachment Leader Deployment Office Detachment Affiliation Elections Merchandise & Officer For Laughs Update Your Build Threads Around the Detachment INFORMATION & AWARD PROGRAMS FISD Achievement Award Common FISD Acronyms and TK Glossary Pre Approval Forum 3D Section Field Exercise Award Imperial Attaché Program Fire Teams EIB & Centurion: What do these terms mean? Need Help Ask the Deployment Officers Advanced Tactics Awards Public Relations Staff List 2020 Follow FISD Greetings fellow Stormtroopers Elections are in full swing with Q and A open for Legion Commanding officer and no doubt plenty of garrisons and several Detachments. FISD elections on the other hand, ran uncontested this year, placing us in the envious position to get back to business some 10 days earlier than units now running the full cycle. The team and I are truly humbled that you the members, and all those nominated for the DL position but declined, believe that we have done a good enough job to remain in office for another term. It has reassured us that you also believe the detachment is heading in the right direction, and we wholeheartedly thank you. if you have visited the forums, you may have seen my announcement outlining some of the staff changes, a brief of the plan for this year and of course a mention of merch. Announcement Link Here This year gives us the opportunity to consolidate on everything we have worked towards over 2020/21. There will be a few more changes and upgrades to come, and the full vision for our detachment brought to reality. We look forward to engaging with you across our platforms and keeping FISD the place to be. With Unquestioned Loyalty Andrew Franke TK11469 "Sly11" Detachment Leader NEW CRL UPDATES Now that the voting is done and the dust has settled, please note the following official changes/additions in the Costume Reference Library for ANH Stunt/Hero and ESB. All items pertain to Level 3 (Centurion) approval with the exception of the Thermal Detonator details for Basic approval. These were set into place not to make life more difficult, but rather add to a more screen accurate appearance and clarify items often overlooked in the build process. If you should have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact any of us in the D.O. department here: @Deployment Officer Team 1. ANH Stunt/Hero Thermal Detonator details (Basic approval)- Link here 2. ANH Stunt/Hero/ESB Thigh ridge gaps- Link here 3. ANH Stunt/Hero/ESB large ab-button plate- Link here 4. ANH Stunt/Hero/ESB Ear placement- Link here 5. ESB Hand guards- Link here 6. ANH Stunt/Hero/ESB Blaster details- Link here With Unquestioned Loyalty Joseph Pedigo TK-10963 "justjoseph63" Chief Deployment Officer With Unquestioned Loyalty Mario E RT TK-48117 "TKSpartan" Deployment Officer With Unquestioned Loyalty Jose Maria Sanchez TK-30173 "Chemi" Deployment Officer With elections starting at the beginning of February it's time to check your detachment affiliation. OK so you look at your Legion profile and it shows that your detachment affiliation to FISD is pending, or otherwise incorrect. Why does this happen, and what is detachment affiliation anyway, and what will FISD do about it? The answer is that detachment affiliation is only ever used once a year, and for one purpose. The only time the Legion ever uses it for anything is to determine who can run for DL and who can vote in detachment elections. That's it. Otherwise it is pretty much ignored and not used for anything. The process of validating detachment membership is cumbersome and time consuming because people use different email information between their Legion and detachment logins, and that there is no way to bulk update the rosters. For a small detachment it is not a big deal to do this manually, but for a detachment the size of FISD with hundreds and soon thousands of 501st members, it's impossible. Fortunately we have technical folk both on FISD and in the Legion web team. Once a year they take a feed from FISD's database and do a bulk update on the Legion database. This occurs right before the election cycle starts and is done once per year. Pro tips: 1) Ensure the email address you use on the Legion & FISD boards are the exact same. 2) Ensure that your FISD profile has the correct TKID. 3) IMPORTANT! You MUST be in the right security group. It should be "501st Stormtrooper" in order for the automated system to pull you over. This thread is where you get your detachment access updated. 4) If after the bulk update is complete and your profile is still not updated, and you are 100% sure your info is in sync between the two boards, then ask for to the Legion web team. They should get feedback on why this isn't working. 5) If all else fails, ping the FISD staff. Which basically means that we'll simply tell the 501st web team to bulk approve everyone 6) If still you have no luck you can contact the legion web team directly via email: [email protected] To check detachment affiliation go to the 501st holocron here, login using your 501st forum username and password, click on YOUR PROFILE DATA, then look down the lower part of the page for YOUR UNIT AFFILIATION, then under DETACHMENT AFFILIATION. If you do not see FISD listed reach out to your GML (garrison membership liaison) as they can add it if you are an approved Stormtrooper. If FISD shows as PENDING it should be automatically updated just before elections, if not you can contact our DL @Sly11 and request a manual update. FISD Detachment Leader 2022-2023 With only one accepted nomination for FISD Detachment Leader congratulations go out to our continuing leader Andrew "Sly11" TK11469 2022 Legion Election Timeline Nominations Closed: 4th February 11.59pm If only one person was nominated for a particular position then it was filled and the election process ended. If more than one person was nominated Q &A Starts Q & A's for Garrison, Squad, Legion Commanding Officer and other Detachments has begun Starts: 5th February @ 12.01am GMT Ends: 9th February @ 11.59pm GMT Closing Statements: Starts: 10th February @ 12.01am GMT Ends: 10th February @ 11.59pm GMT Voting: Starts: 11th February @ 12.01am GMT Ends: 15th February @ 11.59pm GMT Transition Period: 16th February @ 12.01am GMT to 20th February @ 11.59pm GMT Take Office: 21st February @ 12.01am GMT Election Issues/Access You may reach the Legion Election Moderators by emailing [email protected] Cast your vote here Link to legion election forum here Costume Approval Information - Legion Elections 2022 With the Legion election period underway the membership database will be in lock down, during this time new member applications through your local garrison/outpost/squad can not be finalized, you may however still submit them but they won't be processed until the end of this cycle. This does not affect the addition of any new costumes to an active members roster/profile, however it does affect any membership status changes ie: active / reserve / retired and any personal information updates. The period of membership database lockdown for 2022 starts Feb 1st and ends Feb 21st Merchandise & Branding Officer That's right, FISD now has a designated Merchandise & Branding Officer, we welcome James Silvius (jsilvius) TK- 12953 to the team. Keep an eye out on the newsletter and social media for upcoming exciting new merchandise. CLOSED 15th Anniversary Coin Run EXCESS FUNDS After all costs were accounted for and documentation was submitted to Detachment Leadership, we ended up with a excess of funds from the coin run of about $0.34 per coin. At this point we would like to offer you 2 options: 1. Refund- You can receive the ACTUAL difference back for any over payment on your order. (If opting for a refund, I will PM you). Please allow up to 3 days for this and note that anyone on a group order WILL need to go through the person who paid for the order. -or- 2. Donation- Your difference can actually make a difference by donating it to the Detachment's legacy charity, the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation - info here. All funds donated will be tallied up and sent to JDRF at one time** in the name of the FISD. For transparency, that transaction will be made available for viewing afterward. If members could post their preference on this thread NOTE: The thread will close in 30 days (11 Feb 2022) 2022 Celebration Patch RUN OPEN As always we highly recommend group orders where possible. Talk to your Squad, Unit or Garrison mates to help lessen the blow of freight. This run is being handled through Endor Finders, please see the link & password below. The Password to access the patch is: celebration2022 You can find the thread here Run will close on the 14th February so the patches can be ordered before the end of Feb and new term Hello Fellow Troopers! My name is James Silvius (TK-12953) of Garrison Tyranus, and I am honored to have this opportunity to serve this great detachment and would like thank Andrew and the rest of the FISD staff for giving me this chance. I do reside in the US. Richmond, VA to be exact. I am married to my high school sweetheart, Therese (DS-32076) and we have one child, Jarod (TK-12140). I have been a Star Wars fan for as long as I can remember, and there is nothing more iconic to me in Star Wars than a Stormtrooper. I was born in Illinois and visit home often (Hello MWG), served in the United States Army for 4 years and settled in Virginia. I currently work as Network Engineer for a company that does food distribution for mostly military commissaries. I am an avid collector of the Hasbro 6-inch Star Wars Black Series figures, and of 501st Challenge Coins (jsilvius in the DB). I am also a hobbyist 3D printer (I own an Ender 3 Pro and a CR-10 S4). I was first introduced to the 501st Legion in 2013 at a local Con and was just as excited to see the amazing kits as my then 13-year-old son was. While it would be 6 years before I joined, when I did It was as an OT TK (there is a bit of a story here that maybe I can share with some of you over adult beverages and coin trading at Celebration). I hope that I will be a valuable member of the FISD Staff and look forward to working with them and getting the input of the detachment members for the creation of fun and representative merchandise. Feel free to PM me ideas for what you would like to see this term and be on the look out for some post by me for new merchandise already in the works for this term and requesting ideas for what troopers would like to see going forward. With Unquestioned Loyalty James Silvius TK-12953 "jsilvius" Merchandise & Branding Officer "FISD Memes" Thank you to Luca "Morgi" TK66744 for starting a FISD specific meme thread, hope to see more of these in the future not only by you but by others as well. You can find the thread here WE NEED YOU TO UPDATE YOUR BUILD THREADS As most would be aware we are diligently working through the forums updating watermarked images, missing images and broken links, this has taken over a year so far and has been a monumental task but there is still a lot of work ahead of us. Members build threads are one of the biggest areas of watermarked/missing images and we are asking you the membership to help and update your build threads yourselves as this is just too big a task for staff. Build threads requiring updates are being moved over to this area https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/forum/241-build-threads-requireing-maintenance/ Thank you in advance for your cooperation. New FISD Tri Fold Brochure We have just launched our newly revised Detachment Tri Fold brochure. It's been quite a long time since we actually had these available and since then many things have changed leading us to updating some of the text to include new costumes, and have more relevant information. Originally these were done in a limited run by the member who created them, but nowadays, we have moved this to a print your own service making them accessible to all countries around the globe. Files are available to all full 501st members on request, and are completed in a very high resolution to ensure quality in a finished product. The thread can be found here for more information and how to access the files. The ANH E-11: Sterling -v- Bapty Differences Joseph Pedigo (justjoseph63) TK-10963 has put together a great comparison thread between a standard E-11 and Bapty versions, head over to this thread to view. If anyone has any additional information Joseph will gladly add it to his post. INFORMATION & AWARD PROGRAMS For a full list of FISD awards head here Joseph Pedigo "justjoseph63" TK10963 as many of you can attest, gone over and above, consistently doing something to benefit the detachment, things that go well outside of his deployment office duties, year upon year. Everything he has done was of his own volition, and done with passion for the benefit of as many members as possible. I find no one more deserving of this, our detachments highest accolade, and feel privileged to be able to bestow it on Joseph for his continued and outstanding efforts over so many years of service. Thank you Joseph, your "How to" guides are legendary, your sales items incredible in detail, and your generosity and loyalty unquestionable. Please join me in congratulating Joseph on his hard earned and well deserved award. Past recipients of the FISD Achievement Award here More info on the FISD Achievement Award here With Unquestioned Loyalty Andrew Franke TK11469 "Sly11" Detachment Leader Are you new to the FISD and wondering what the heck all those abbreviations and strange sounding terms mean? To help you @justjoseph63 has started a list of the most commonly used ones that will give you some insight. If you have ANY questions about a particular term that is not listed or suggestions for new ones please contact Joseph. You can find the list here Pre Approval Forum allows future Troopers the opportunity to submit photos of their completed build to be reviewed by the Staff, Imperial Attaches and others in preparation for forwarding it to their GML for approval. Any and all advice/suggestions given will be specific, constructive, helpful and respectful. Please note that this program will NOT take the place of your local GML, as Detachments are not chartered for costume approval and can not override a GMLs decision, but is instead a peer review program designed to help you look your best and offer guidance and positive feedback. For more information on this program, please visit the link here Don't forget to visit our 3D section when next surfing the FISD forums, there is plenty of useful information to potentially help you on your next TK adventure. You might be feeling may generous and share with our community a new TK related 3D file and maybe win yourself a 3D contributors award so check out the details below and be part of the in house 3D community. Here is a link to the FISD 3D Contributor program. Don't forget to create a troop log here on FISD and get awarded for your adventures The list of accomplished troopers keeps growing, so get on board and register your troops today Simply start (or update!) your troop log, keep the running total in the title, and post (at least!) a date and name for the official 501st event where you wore your TK! Once you've hit a milestone count, go over to the "Field Exercise Awards -- Post your milestones here" thread to request your profile be updated! Simple, right? Award Recipients January - February TK41469 "Hesikaya" Scott Are you an approved TK that spends more time on the boards than the average Trooper? Do you enjoy using your knowledge to help out future and existing Troopers? If so, we would like to invite you to join the Imperial Attaché program! Members of the I.A. team are chosen to help out not only those here on the boards, but on a local level as well. Our aim is to have at least one in each and every Garrison, Squad and Outpost in the entire legion to be the eyes and ears of the FISD on a local level. For a complete list of Imperial Attaches, go here Some of the benefits: Access to exclusive Attaché merch., including patches, IA patch , IA Rocker For a complete list of Imperial Attaches, go here You may also be in the running for an Imperial Attaché Award Imperial Attaché Award for those attaché's who have gone above and beyond [minimum 1 year of service]. You can find a list of prior recipients here Want to setup a "Fire Team? the Fire Team program is completely optional, and is intended to help form a common identity and spirit of camaraderie among 501st Legion Stormtroopers in the same geographic area/garrison that troop together. Fire Teams are not officially recognized by the 501st Legion nor the FISD, although they will be able to access a Fire Team sub-forum on the detachment website. You can find more information here So what exactly are and levels? These programs were designed for those who choose to take their armor above and beyond the minimum requirements for basic 501st Legion approval. It gives you the chance to show a level of dedication and pride that takes your armor closer to being as "screen accurate" as possible, without as much extra work as you may realize! You can find more information on the programs here ASK THE D.O.s For those of you who have a particular issue (or issues) before or after submitting for Expert Infantry / Centurion level approval, in order to get you an answer faster you can now privately contact the entire Deployment Officer team at one time! Questions about fitting, repairs, CRL standards/requirements or anything pertaining to reaching Levels 2 and 3 are not only welcomed, but encouraged. Keep in mind that no question is too small, and that your queries will only be seen by the D.O. Staff. We are here to help in any way we can, so please feel free to send us a message by clicking on this link: @Deployment Officer Team and we will get back to you A.S.A.P.! This area lists all those who have gone above and beyond basic approval toward screen accuracy and obtained EIB or Centurion or both. FOR January - February the 1st Imperial Stormtrooper Detachment would like to congratulate the following. Expert Infantry Badge Award: Chris "Lazerjock" TK84215 EIB 1041 GREAT job on your approval, now on to Level 3! Request your free EIB certificate here You can find a list of multiple award recipients here --------------------------------------------------------------- Centurion Badge Award: Ardeshir "equuspolo" TK42128 EIB TLJ-E 6th Award Ardeshir "equuspolo" TK42128 EIB TLJ 7th Award Outstanding job on reaching Centurion, Troopers! Request your free Centurion certificate here You can find a list of multiple award recipients here If you see any of these Troopers around your Garrison or Squad, be sure to congratulate them! Newsletter Editor Well looks like your'e all stuck with me again for another 12 months (health permitting) If anyone has any content for the newsletter please contact me via PM For anyone interested in having a look through any of the older newsletter they have now been moved to a new archive sub forum which you can find Here With Unquestioned Loyalty Glen "Q" Rhodes TK-85421 "gmrhodes13" PRO Newsletter Staff List 2022 -2023 Detachment Leader (DL): Andrew Franke (Sly11) TK11469 Executive Officer (DXO): Steven Sheades (starsaber25) TK-10466 Chief Deployment Officer (DCA): Joseph Pedigo (justjoseph63) TK-10963 Deployment Officer: (DCA): Mario E RT (TKSpartan) TK-48117 Deployment Officer: (DCA): Jose Maria Sanchez (Chemi) TK-30173 Provost Marshal (DCOG): Dan Branton (CableGuy) TK-42911 Provost Marshal (DCOG): Tim Waychoff (Dark CMF) Provost Marshal (DCOG): Chris Pearson (themaninthesuitcase) TK-10911 Personnel Officer (PER): AC (Novatie) TK-5597 Fire Team Relations (PRO): Mark Ryner (Captsafe66) TK-4584 Content Editor At Large (PRO): Christoph (Danny) Lauber (Ripper_L) TK-55550 Content Editor Support (PRO): Tony Jobe (ukswrath) TK-10116 Content Editor Awards (PRO): This will be handled by the XO Newsletter Publisher (PRO): Glen Rhodes (gmrhodes13) TK-85421 HOF Director (PRO): Aaron (Bronx) Gibson (Pyrates) TK-99725 Attaché Ambassador (PRO) Frank Peranteau (Frank75139) TK-75139 Merchandise and Branding (DMBO) James Silvius (jsilvius) TK- 12953 Social Media Relations (PRO): Teresa Nuthall (Soulart) TK-41307 Social Media Relations (PRO): Jim Ferrell (Rat) TK-95970 Systems Administrator (DWM): Eric Brager (Darth Aloha) TK-9674 Systems Administrator (DWM): Mathias (Locitus) TK-2959 Detachment Founder (DF): Paul (Daetrin) TK-8020 Trading Cards Content Support (IPM): Eric Ho (Hoda) TK 77520 Imperial Propaganda Machine (IPM): Brien Edick (Harbinger) TK 92802 Imperial Propaganda Machine (IPM): Jeff Salt (wingnut) TK 50297 Imperial Propaganda Machine (IPM): Richard Tibbitts (CallMeMrTibbles) TK 46116 Imperial Propaganda Machine (IPM): Adam Wolf (revlimiter) TK 11469 Facebook: www.facebook.com/whitearmor Facebook Group: 1st Imperial Stormtrooper Detachment (FISD) Official Twitter: www.twitter.com/FISD501st or @FISD501st Instagram: www.instagram.com/fisd501st On behalf of the 1st Imperial Stormtrooper Detachment Command Staff and the Imperial Propaganda Department1 point
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Hello and welcome aboard, we have a lot of information for the FOTK is the First Order Battle Group https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/forum/218-first-order-battle-group/ Looking forward to seeing a build thread from you soon, good luck1 point
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Congrats, Andrew! Looking forward to another amazing year in the World of White!1 point
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I recommend that you request replacements of any parts that seem to have resin curing issues. From my experience with this kind of problem years ago, it cannot be properly or permanently resolved. It will continue to weep residue that will prevent paint adhesion. I don't think you should have to use a "cut and replace" process with filler to fix significant casting flaws. The vendor would probably try to help.1 point
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Nice compilation and resource. And pinned.1 point
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Everything is ready to assemble. Will be putting it all together tomorrow morning likely.1 point
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So while I am waiting for my BBB to arrive, I decided to jump into the 3D printing world and take my new printer for a spin and start the E-11 blaster project. After about a week of printing, I have 3/4 of the parts printed. Yesterday I spent most of the day sanding and started the basic assembly. The photos are post Bondo and pre Bondo sanding. Tonight I will be smoothing with the XTC 3d print coating. This is such a satisfying hobby. I must admit there were a few pew pew moments last night chasing the pets around the house.1 point
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I see this topic come up a lot and I have not seen a comparison so I thought I would do one. Please keep in mind that my knowledge on this subject is limited and I do not have any experience with OT TKs. So the obvious… Rogue One TKs are more detailed than OT. As far as I know, all the OT TKs were vacuum formed in High Impact Poly Styrene (HIPS). This process requires a buck (mold) that heated plastic is laid over then sucked to the buck by vacuum. This is a fast and efficient method of mass producing these costumes; however, the trade off is that all detail is minimalized and designed so that the formed plastic can be removed without damaging the buck. For this reason, parts like the helmet and forearms are formed in parts rather than one solid object. Consider an ANH forearm, the rectangle details are not very well defined. There are 2 parts to the forearm. One part has the rectangles and the other does not. The two parts are glued together and then cover strips of plastic are used to hide the seams. Rogue One TKs are were not vacuum formed. I have heard (although I do not know for sure) that the RO TKs were injection molded. This process requires a 2 or more-sided mold that is completely closed off then heated liquid plastic is injected into the mold. Once the plastic is cured, the mold is opened, and the parts removed. This process allows for thicker and more detailed parts. So both the OT and the RO stormtroopers armor are made from plastic but the RO version is thicker and more detailed. Yes there are differences between ANH, ESB, and ROTJ TK’s but for the most part, the process of making the armor was the same. RO, Solo, and some of The Mandalorian TKs were made to the RO standard. Another consideration in comparing the two types TKs is the methods of assembly and strapping. There is a ton of reference material on how the OT TKs were assembled. There are very specific requirements in the CRLs as to what type of snaps, straps, Velcro, and rivets are used and how they are used. Oddly enough we have less information about how the RO TK is assembled and strapped. One of the best sources I have found for RO TKs is the images from Celebration Europe 2016. In these images we can see Velcro in various places as well as some sort of plastic hook lines connecting the shoulder bells to the biceps. Regardless, the 501st CRLs for RO TKs does not specify how the TK is strapped as long as the strapping is not visible with the exception of the drop boxes and the thighs. It would be awesome if someone who has some contacts with LFL could get some more detailed information and pictures since there is no reason for this information to remain secret this long after RO, I digress. Additionally, there are significant differences in the soft parts of the costume. OT TKs have a neck seal and a black one or two-part undersuit. The undersuit has no detail and most of the people I know who have OT TKs wear under armor. The gloves were rubber military chemical gloves and the boots were slip on brown chelsea boots dyed white. RO TKs have a undersuit that has ribbed fabric at most of the joints and the neck seal. The top shirt has hex mesh in the armpits and the ribbed fabric runs from the top of the neck seal to mid chest. The ribbed fabric must be stitched between the ribs. The boots are the same as the FO boots with a flat sole and side zipper. The gloves are also the same as the FO; although they are all black with leather patches and gridded fabric similar to a mechanics brand glove. Lastly, the OT Tks had holsters and their E-11s are slightly different from the RO E-11. RO TKs did not have holsters. I suspect that it would be difficult to holster the E-11 with a tac-light on the side of it. So lets look at some comparison pictures. These were taking at the ROSW premier. On the left is a member of my Garrison (TK 41808) in his RS Prop Masters ANH Stunt. On the right is me (TK 20980) in my Jimmiroquai RO. Initially, we look very similar; however, closer inspection reveals the level of detail, shape, construction in each part. So, let’s start at the top and work out way down. The helmet: On the left is an OT TK from ANH, on the right is my ROTK helmet. One of the most talked about parts of the helmet is the infamous eye bump. Look at the right eye on the OT helmet, notice the bump along the bottom of the eye just left of the nose? That is the eye bump. All of the bucks for the OT helmets were hand sculpted and it is unclear if this bump was in the original buck or if it is a result of the vacuum forming process; however, what we do know is that the helmets are not symmetrical. RO helmets are symmetrical and although some people swear, they can see the eye bump, I do not see it on the RO helmet. Moving on, the frown is more pronounced on the OT helmet. The number of visible teeth is also an issue. There are images from ANH that show between 6 and 10 teeth. RO helmets have only 7 individual teeth backed by a dark grey mesh. Another difference is the height of the brow trim above the eyes. The brow trim on the OT helmet fits on the edge of the top dome and is adjustable. I believe the proper gap is about ¼” while the gap on the RO helmet is about 1/8”. It is unclear if the brow trim on the RO helmet is actually separate or painted on. On my helmet it is molded into the helmet and I painted it. I should note that is on of the things that must be modified on the Black Series helmet to make it CRL compliant. The gap on the black series is closer to an OT gap. Lastly, the V-coder on the OT helmet is a molded part that is painted. On the RO helmet, the V-coder is a separate part and there must be a visible gap at the bulbous part of the V-coder and the helmet. Looking at the sides of the helmets, the OT tear traps are a simple depression that is painted. The vent lines are painted as is the black outline. The same is true for the temple boxes, although there are no vent lines in the temple boxes. On the RO helmet, the tear traps are also depressed; however, there is a raised portion in the center that is painted grey and the vent lines are cut out (engraved) in this raised portion. I suspect on the screen used helmets the depression is painted black and the raised portion is a glued in part that has the vent lines cut out. On my helmet, I cut the vents out completely and backed them black breathable fabric. The temple boxes on the RO helmet also have a raised portion that is painted grey and just like the OT, there are no vent lines. I have seen a gap between the end of the brown trim and the top of the ear cap on some OT helmets. On the RO, the brow trim comes past the temple box and terminates at the center of the ear cap. There is no gap between the brow trim and the ear cap and the brow trim terminates at an angle. The OT ear caps have visible flat head pan screws (3 of them) and the CRLs require them. These screws actually hold the helmet together connecting the front and back halves and attaching the ear caps over the seams. On the RO ear caps, the screws (2 of them) are molded in and are non-functional. Additionally, the ear bumps on the OT helmets are different. The RO ear bumps are all the same and a very different design from the OT. The outer circle of the ear cap as well as the ear bumps are more detailed and defined on the RO helmet. Lastly, the blue tube stripes on the OT helmet is either a decal or painted on. On the RO helmet the tube stripes are completely cut out and for the screen used helmets, they were backed with blue painters’ tape. On my helmet I backed the stripes with a blue breathable fabric. The back of both helmets are very similar. On the OT helmet the rear boxes are more trapezoidal rounded in the corners, the box is a depression that is painted grey and again the vent lines are painted. On the RO helmet, the boxes are more rectangular and again they are depressed with a raised portion that is painted grey with vent lines cut out. Again, I believe the screen used helmets had a depression that was painted black and additional parts with the vent lines cut out was painted grey and glued in place. On my helmet, these vent lines are cut out and backed with a black fabric. On the black series helmet, there is a battery box and speaker that must be modified for approval. Although the shape of both helmets are very similar, there are some minor differences. The RO helmet looks thinner overall. On the black series I had to extend the jaw line about 1.5” to fit a proper RO V-coder. The Hovi mics on the RO are exactly the same as the ANH Hovi mics with white interiors and the proper mesh screen. The lenses on the RO are also the same as the ANH lenses, green. If you are considering a ROTK, there are several options for helmets available to you. The least amount of work would be a Jimmiroquai helmet and the largest about of work would be modifying a black series helmet. I have a tutorial for the modifications I recommend in the RO thread. I do not recommend attempting to convert an OT helmet to a RO helmet, but I guess anything is possible. Next, I will be comparing the upper torso and arms. Thanks for the interest.1 point