themaninthesuitcase

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Thanks Glen I meant to add the link when I posted but clearly forgot!

As many of you know Hasbro have released a Black Series version of the The Last Jedi First Order Stormtrooper helmet. On fist pass it looks pretty good. How good? Lets find out. For this comparison I am going to use my own Hasbro helmet ordered from Amazon and delivered in June 2021. I've been meaning to do this since it arrived but it's been a time consuming job. The exemplar will be a real screen used helmet. The images are from a The Prop Store auction that took place in 2018. This is still available for viewing at time of writing https://propstoreauction.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/138/lot/28672 but the images have been saved to the Gallery for safe keeping. The Prop Store usually take very nice photos and this is no different. There is no ruler in shot like with many auctions but they do have dimensions which we can use to at least check ball park numbers. A brief word on the images. The perspective on this is not perfect. It's taken hours to get as close as I have and I've had to settle. The "correct" look will depend a lot on the lens focal length and the angle, matching this has been hard but I've gotten close enough. If I don't call something out specifically assume "close enough" in person. For reference these are all 70mm f/8 on a full frame camera, just in case that means anything to you, angle was as best I could to match the reference but it's trickier than it sounds. All images below link to a higher resolution version. Front View Starting at the front we can see the general shape and line are very good though there are some differences and issues that will need to be addressed: The beak shape is good. There is a gap along the the front edge that looks to be for air flow. For accuracy this should be filled but I think leaving it isn't the biggest crime. The panel gaps aren't the same, a bit tight at the front and a bit loose at the top on the Hasbro. The top is looking like a hard fix but the front could be improved with a little sanding, just to round over the hard edge. The Hasbro has a ring around the vocoder, this is a show stopper. It will need to be cut from the face portion and attached to the lower panel, and and gaps filled and edges cleaned up. The "holder" is fine as is as that is a separate part on the screen used helmet. Hex mesh isn't perfect but is certainly close enough. The side vents are correctly located and sized. The screen used helmet uses a thicker shell so has a slightly different look. The screen used helmet also has these open where the Hasbro has an inner and an outer cover. The Hasbro also has a ramp down into the vents, this is square on the screen used and should be removed (see gallery for a closer image). The rubber brow trim on the Hasbro looks to be a good match for the screen used helmet. The Hasbro comes with accurate bubble lenses. They aren't flawless but are better than some I've seen and gives better peripheral vision than my OT. Left Side View The left side has a really good profile, to the point I was able to almost perfectly align them in photoshop. There is a button on the side of the Hasbro. This will need to be removed and replaced with something, the button is too tall to just glue in and fill the gap. The lower nubbin under the telephone cut out is marginally smaller and taller but nothing major. The trapezoid on the screen used helmet is a decal. The Hasbro has this as a separate part in black plastic. Ideally this would be glued in and the gaps filled and smoothed. The black band around the bottom is also a decal, see img6 in the gallery for a close up on the other side. Again this is black plastic on the Hasbro. The biggest issue with the helmet, in my opinion anyway, is now visible. The false panel line that runs the rear circumference parallel to the black band. This will need to be filed in with care to look good. Rear View The shape is again excellent. The false panel line previously mentioned is more visible here, or more accurately not visible. There are 2 small speaker vents on the Hasbro helmet in the black band, these will need to be filled. Right Side View The right side adds nothing new that's not already been mentioned. Aerator The hasbro aerator is cheap metal, possibly zinc plated. The screen used looks to be either vacuum metalized or some kind of paint process. Size seems good and is a good representation. The ring issue is very visible here. Care will be needed to ensure the cut lines are correct. Clips The clips are okay, but not great. The "lift tab" is is chamfered not round. The clip tip should also be more tapered towards the front. The clip well on the screen used helmet is slightly deeper, in keeping with what we've seen on other areas of the helmet. These clips are a separate part so are easy to replace with a new part once designed. Size The prop store stated the screen used size as 32 cm x 27 cm x 30 cm (12 ¾” x 10 ¾” x 12”). Using some large calipers I found the hasbro helmet to be approximately similar, around 1cm larger in each dimension. It's hard to know exactly how the real helmet was measured but the widest points where all around 1cm more than what prop store stated. This puts the Hasbro at around 3-4% oversized worst case, but depending on your armour that may or may not look better than 100% accurate due to the comparative proportions. Other There are some mould line issues and a few shrink marks on the surface. However these are all reasonably small and nothing that won't be fixed during paint preparation. I've not covered the insides as it's not a visible accuracy issue. Some will wish to refit the supplied liner, others remove it. Whilst the strapping is rubbish the actual inner shell is not bad should you wish to use it. There is also electronics in the helmet, I must admit I have no idea what that do other than they are there and there is a button and some speakers. Given the speaker vents need to be filled you may as well remove the electronics and save some weight. Conclusions The helmet is, on the whole, really good. Yes there are 4 major issues: The front ring, the speakers, button and the false panel line. However there are no big impossible to fix issues. There is a thread already documenting how to break down the helmet and does cover some changes, though I would approach some differently. I think with at least the big items fixed, and preferably some of others you could have a really good helmet once paint matched to your armour. I also can't see any reason why a GML should reject one after the mods.

Hemel, been here for a few years now but I still don't really know the area very well!

That belt will be over kill, I just use a belt I made with some 1” webbing. It sits on my hips and holds everything just fine. There isn’t much stress on the belt, the thighs aren’t heavy.

Took the whole head assembly apart, it was a real mess. The heat block and sensors are done and need to be replaced. The heat break I was able to remove which is nice as it's a titanium one, needs some more cleaning the PETG out of the threads though. The heat sink was covered in thermal compound but cleaned up really nice with some IPA. I have a spare heat block I could use but I'll need to order sensors anyway so I'll get a nice new one. I have the steel heat break that came with the kit last year as well so I have choices. Once the new parts arrive I'll need to rebuild the printer with some new plastics I printed in Galaxy Black for added sparkle and get it all calibrated and running again.

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As far as I am aware the only real use of the SE-14R was the promo images so it never really had a chance to get knocked about. Then again you seem some E-11s that look like they've been dragged behind a speeder (which is not exactly my personal preference) so it's owners choice to a certain extent.

I have a few spare hot end parts, like a .4, .6 nozzle, the old heat block and a few others so may be able to get up and running with what I have, depends how caked in filament the sensors are really.

I was going to print the end cap tomorrow but instead I looked into why there was filament dripping from the hot end. Apparently the heat block has worked looks, or the nozzle, or maybe both. The end result is filament has been leaking through the top of the heat block and generally making a mess. I’ll need to strip, rebuild and maybe replace some components. This will be a rather time consuming job and I’m not exactly sure when I’ll fit this in.

Iteration #712 (actually v12 according to fusion but that's 12 saves for all the mods, but most are this) Top: last version Bottom: new version Not a huge amount of changes Moved the whole cocking slide down a fraction as it was a shade too close to the top/rear sight cut out. It is now about the same gap as the TFA source STL, +-"0.no one cares" mm. Extended the cocking slide so it's only 1mm from the Hengstler mount. There is a 45° chamfer at the end to help with printing, and also blend in the end a little so it's less abrupt. I added some more holes for my wiring setup. (there is a version with out all these) Pretty happy with this now. If anyone else wants them I will publish but for now I'll wait for a 2nd set of eyes to check my work.

Hot off the press: Seems good, though I'm going to extend the cocking slot to be around 1-2mm from the mount for the Hengstler, so around 1/2-1/4 of the current gap. Currently it's about flush with the end of the counter so it will probably be a little ugly, and extending it will hide that join. It's hard to see on the reference exactly how far this goes but "behind" the Hengstler seems a reasonable guess from what I can see. And roughly assembled for some context: Finally old (with primer) vs new (printer fresh) The sizes for the slot were all measured off the old print so are all the same +-0.5mm.

This update is based on this thread: I've spent some time this evening editing the @The5thHorseman files to update them to TLJ specs. I've used Fusion 360 to do this with the new mesh workspace updates. This wasn't too bad, having access to the source objects or STEP files would be better but the new space is pretty good. Previously I used Meshmixer for things like this but it's now discontinued and the features are being added to Fusion. This actually makes things a lot easier as I have access to the normal modelling tools to make the objects to amend the mesh's with in the same workspace. It also seems to crash less. Some edits are basically invisible and you won't notice any of them as edits, others required me "fudging" things a little so there are small flaws but I doubt they will even show on a print. Time will tell on that. First up 2 extra holes in the front barrel, I have already drilled mine out so I may or may not actually print this one out as I'll also need to reprint the fins. Next the end cap. The TLJ version has the recessed section top completely removed. There are a few flaws to this one but they don't seem to show up in the slicer. The end clip is squared off. I'm not sure I have this correct as this change has the worst visibility in the reference. The biggest change is the rear barrel. The cocking slide has moved from the left to the right, the handle is not needed anymore, the "ring" around the barrel is also removed. This was the most fiddly and required making a few shapes to fill the old slide and ring, and also cut out the new slide in the right place. I also removed the internal feature from the old cocking slide and added it to the right for the new one. There are also some, but not all, the holes needed for my electronics, 1 hole I'll need to drill still as lining it up is awkward. The flaws on this one also seem to not be showing in there slicer. I'll start printing tomorrow if time allows.

Just been through all the brilliant images Glen posted to try and break down to a "final" list of differences that need to be applied to a TFA Standard F-11D to make it closer to a TLJ/TROS(?). I've not looked at the Heavy variant, but there looks like less/no real changes there. Changes to be made to a TFA F-11D to make it TLJ. D ring mount painted white not silver (metal) Rectangular D ring ( TFA not present) No cocking lever Cocking lever channel has swapped sides, now on right (same side as Hengstler) End cap full cut out on top front edge, not just a recess. Additional holes on top of front barrel at front and rear ~11mm diameter Picatinny rail and mount bracket on front barrel right side approx. half way down. "Dipped" ring into rear barrel just behind Hengstler removed. End cap clip squared off at end cap end. Edit: front sight is painted black not silver I believe that is everything spotted above. Looking at the image with the title "TROS No holes in top of barrel" I wonder if these are TFA style blasters as the cocking lever is back on the left, and there are no additional barrel holes. The only other "easy" to see tell would be the D ring boss and that's not visible. I've started on updating the Standard variant Horseman files as needed for this already (will post in my WIP when done)