vader74 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 is it me but i think the screen accuracy looks dodgy rushed and slapped together (Heath Robinson) i want my armour to look spick and span like it was designed if i was a real imperial cadet screws an rivets just look wrong to me gaps around ear pieces etc aren't helmets meant to be environmentally sealed the empire was meant to have the best of the best in my opinion so i don't know what to do is there any one that thinks the way i do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Hilarious Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Check out the RotJ styling- it doesn't have those side rivets, no visible straps over the biceps, there's a bunch of the 'slapped together'-looking details that were eliminated. Just ignore all those missing O2 cans on Endor (hey, they could breathe anyway, right?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpecial[TK] Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) I love all those details personally. Its all those little things that give the suit its character ! Edited August 11, 2012 by RedSpecial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose[TK] Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I consider the ear gaps to be vent exhaust ports. Air would have to go somewhere. Plus it makes me feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightside Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) I think it dipends on what you look for. Some people prefer accuracy, others prefer to look like a power ranger. Sincerly, I've always been thinking about that, and I took my conclusion: In the old trilogy all looks approximate because of the obscurantism. All the things are decadent, so it's hard to imagine the Empire forging new armors for every cadet/clone. It's more realistic to think about the Empire re-use armors of those who fell in battle, and that's why you have rivets, dirty armors, bad-closed helmets, etc... Edited August 11, 2012 by lightside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Senf Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Actually you can build your armor like you want. The new looking perfect imperial trooper just out of the factory look or the "screen look" wich is dodgy since most of the screenarmor burnt down and where rushed together. Both is ok and nice. But for eib and higher we look for the screen look. But if we would go 100% we would have to apply loads of gaffa tape since screen armor were a mess. ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpecial[TK] Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Yeah for trooping purposes you have to draw the line somewhere in that respect everyone's armor is idealized to some extent. I'll admit that at first I wasn't a fan of the bumpy cap and back but the more Ive learned about the original props the more Ive come to love the eccentricities of the screen accurate look. So much so that Im planning on my next build to be a warts and all reproduction, Well almost, I still wont be going with the chipped paint HDPE look on the helmet or using gaffa tape on the armour . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightside Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Indeed. As someone said above: difects are those things which give armors their personalities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dday[501st] Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I asked this question a few weeks back myself. I'm personally for the spick and span clean look. Empire was on the top of it's game, the soldiers were in their best. Find the line where you feel comfortable acting in your armor, cause it's all for fun, so have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonnenschein Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Duct (gaffa) tape is like the Force. It has a dark side, a light side.... and holds the universe together. I'm more for prop replicating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Senf Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Duct (gaffa) tape is like the Force. It has a dark side, a light side.... and holds the universe together. I'm more for prop replicating. Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 prop replicas need errors in order to replicate a prop with errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK5492[TK] Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 prop replicas need errors in order to replicate a prop with errors. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vader74 Posted August 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 i understand but at this stage in making my choice of kit after reading the builds and looking at pics i want AM matching arms and Legs with everything else ATA im on waiting list for ATA and a bucket should be arriving in a few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theisaac Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 To ask in this forum what is better between screen accurate and idealized.. its like asking a Chevy club their thoughts on a Ford. Both will pass for 501st, but if you want those next tiers for your build, then its going to be screen accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudeSidious Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 i understand but at this stage in making my choice of kit after reading the builds and looking at pics i want AM matching arms and Legs with everything else ATA im on waiting list for ATA and a bucket should be arriving in a few weeks The problem you might have with mixing parts on your kit is they may be a difference in color and then you would have to paint it.Which by the way is screen accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeR Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 I'm a fan of screen accuracy. It's harder to assemble something to lo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valgars[TK] Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Honestly though why isn't there a category for those that go above and beyond to make it perfect? No gaps, no seams, no rivets anyone uses, no extra buttons? I'm all about the screen accurate but in the end what are you to the general public...a stormtrooper right! I guess I'm ranting a little but look at the TX CRL just as an example. Those guys "can" take direct blaster fire yet a jodhpur or Chelsea style boot is required with elastic webbing at the ankle. Sorry but if you can "cloak" yourself I don't think the Achilles heal of an elastic ankle would have been overlooked on part of the empire. I know it's a mix of real world and the novels/comics but sheesh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantrooper[TK] Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Honestly though why isn't there a category for those that go above and beyond to make it perfect? No gaps, no seams, no rivets anyone uses, no extra buttons? I'm all about the screen accurate but in the end what are you to the general public...a stormtrooper right! I guess I'm ranting a little but look at the TX CRL just as an example. Those guys "can" take direct blaster fire yet a jodhpur or Chelsea style boot is required with elastic webbing at the ankle. Sorry but if you can "cloak" yourself I don't think the Achilles heal of an elastic ankle would have been overlooked on part of the empire. I know it's a mix of real world and the novels/comics but sheesh! I wishyou all the best for you Tk build, but what youhave described here sounds very much like a clonetrooper.... They are seamless and 'perfect' inthe sense they were created in CG and no actual suits exst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vader74 Posted August 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 to me the prequel trilogy is non cannon aren't the miss-match arms n thighs from to different movies from ANH with Jedi tour suit or something so then they wouldn't be screen either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkno Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 I would go for accuracy any day of the week. It is how the SW helmets and armors were made, it is like owning a piece of the movie. Having an idealized item is cool but let's compare a MR CE/eFX PCR helmet with a RS Prop Masters. Then you'll see what SW is all about: a used universe, with lots of wonky and rough stuff, in a way exactly like the real world. PT looks shiny and pristine and that is another factors that makes it a miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej[TK] Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Rob, to each his/her own. I've always looked at the Star Wars universe as a used and abused place. I'm sure the Emperor didn't give out armour contacts to the highest bidder, they would have gone to the lowest. He wouldn't have given a damn about quality control, he had hordes of cannon fodder, so it didn't matter. My kit hasn't been polished in 4 years, nor will it ever be. it is now naturally weathered, and I love it this way. Wonky, dirty, lived in, just like the Star Wars universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt black Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 For me, Prop replica for collecting, slightly more idealized for trooping. There has to be a line between how the armour looked in the movie and what the public expect to see. Most of the sloppiness we see on screen can only be noticed with todays higher quality ways of viewing. Back in the days of VHS things like tape were not noticed. I love all the wonkiness and scuff marks but I not a fan of the poor construction mistakes. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Batman[TK] Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 I think David hits the nail on the head- the Star Wars universe was not clinical and pristene it was gritty and used. Stormtroopers fitted right in! Personally I go for a more accurate screen look but it is all about choice. The information is here for you to devour and then decide. If you want a more clincal TK then it is your costume you should go for it. Personally I would be worried about mixing parts too much particularly such main parts as I susppect it may look odd, the different sculpts may not compliment each other and the colours will probably be very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightside Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Honestly though why isn't there a category for those that go above and beyond to make it perfect? No gaps, no seams, no rivets anyone uses, no extra buttons? I'm all about the screen accurate but in the end what are you to the general public...a stormtrooper right! I guess I'm ranting a little but look at the TX CRL just as an example. Those guys "can" take direct blaster fire yet a jodhpur or Chelsea style boot is required with elastic webbing at the ankle. Sorry but if you can "cloak" yourself I don't think the Achilles heal of an elastic ankle would have been overlooked on part of the empire. I know it's a mix of real world and the novels/comics but sheesh! I understand what you're talking about but to me you go in a dead end with this thoughts. I mean... if you look for realism so you might think an empire would never dressed up its soldiers with unpraticable armors. mightn't you? Moreover, armors would be perfect also in shape, not asimmetrical, and the bucket would be wider to let stormtrooper breathe when they run. So, at this point, you could go with a FX with its bucket on and you step back thinking to go forward. It's a loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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