CloseTheBlastDoor Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Hello there! Perhaps I will regret calling myself CloseTheBlastDoor, but all of my other creative attempts were taken by all you creative people! I have my TK ANH Stunt trooper kit from WTF, and I've gathered most of the other items. This will take a while. I was quite intimidated when the big box arrived, for sure! But I've spent a few hours reading through much of the forums here, and I'm encouraged and even a bit more confident that I can do this! My kids have flown the coop, and I have a decent chunk of time to get this done. I clock in at 6'0" and shrinking, and I'm about 175 pounds. So I'm hoping the suit will fit with few alterations. I'm going to start with the thermal detonator, which for some reason seems the least scary. I'll try and post some photos as I go. Thank you in advance for your support! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilheyra[TK] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) Welcome! It looks like you have acquainted yourself with the different areas of the forum, so have fun with your research and reading through different threads! The amount of information on this forum is amazing! I highly recommend creating a build thread in the ANH TK section of the forum (EDIT: This is the ANH build thread section of the forum - wrote before thinking). That way you can post photos of your progress and ask any and all questions you have as you navigate your build! Starting a build can certainly be intimidating, and we all have felt that at one point or another, so familiarizing yourself with the process is one of the best remedys. Plus, the folks here are super helpful, supportive, and together have a wealth of knowledge on everything stormtrooper (and costuming in general) so ask away! Also, CloseTheBlastDoor is a great name! Edited February 1 by Tilheyra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedVengeance[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Umm yeah, that's an excellent profile name! You just need to find a counterpart who can take up the OpenTheBlastDoor name! So welcome to FISD! You're certainly in the right place for assistance in building your WTF armor! As a thermal detonator enthusiast, I love that you're tackling that part first. In fact, I have two posts on my build thread dedicated to thermal dets (a third and likely fourth post will come in the future since my thread is still incomplete). https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/48337-mvs-anh-tk-stunt-ata-1st-build-thread-for-centurion/page/4/#comment-700649 You're already on the right track by starting a build thread on here, and I'm sure many other troopers will be around to provide you with guidance on your journey. If I may, you might consider this order of assembly after your thermal det. Biceps (they're largely hidden by shoulder bells) Shoulder bells (simple, with no assembly) Forearms (next smallest pieces) Left shin (with sniper knee to help hide misalignment) Right shin Right thigh (with ammo pack to help hide misalignment) Left thigh Torso parts Helmet (generally considered the most difficult) I look forward to following along on your build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Hello and welcome aboard, some references which may be of help As per the CRL for Basic approval: "The white control panel raised ribbed section faces the rear.." And when worn with the belt make sure the slips go all the way down and are not seen from below the belt. Good luck with research and build, don't be afraid to ask questions, there's always someone around ready to jump in (or we aren't far away ) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revlimiter[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Firstly, this is a FANTASTIC username. Bravo!!! I unfortunately have not great news... WTF armor is pretty small. Even petite troopers usually need to add shims to the side torso area. The shins are enormous, but the rest of the armor is suited for smaller troopers. I've assisted in several WTF builds. BUT!!! Don't get discouraged. Many have taken it to Centurion. You can do it! It's just not the "easy button" of TK builds. Definitely ask for help when things get confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloseTheBlastDoor Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 46 minutes ago, Tilheyra said: Welcome! It looks like you have acquainted yourself with the different areas of the forum, so have fun with your research and reading through different threads! The amount of information on this forum is amazing! I highly recommend creating a build thread in the ANH TK section of the forum. That way you can post photos of your progress and ask any and all questions you have as you navigate your build! Starting a build can certainly be intimidating, and we all have felt that at one point or another, so familiarizing yourself with the process is one of the best remedys. Plus, the folks here are super helpful, supportive, and together have a wealth of knowledge on everything stormtrooper (and costuming in general) so ask away! Also, CloseTheBlastDoor is a great name! Nice to meet you! Thanks for your advice and kind words. I actually thought that this was the build thread, did I do that wrong? I would indeed like to post some photos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilheyra[TK] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, CloseTheBlastDoor said: Nice to meet you! Thanks for your advice and kind words. I actually thought that this was the build thread, did I do that wrong? I would indeed like to post some photos. My mistake. You are in the right place for a build thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloseTheBlastDoor Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 30 minutes ago, MaskedVengeance said: Umm yeah, that's an excellent profile name! You just need to find a counterpart who can take up the OpenTheBlastDoor name! So welcome to FISD! You're certainly in the right place for assistance in building your WTF armor! As a thermal detonator enthusiast, I love that you're tackling that part first. In fact, I have two posts on my build thread dedicated to thermal dets (a third and likely fourth post will come in the future since my thread is still incomplete). https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/48337-mvs-anh-tk-stunt-ata-1st-build-thread-for-centurion/page/4/#comment-700649 You're already on the right track by starting a build thread on here, and I'm sure many other troopers will be around to provide you with guidance on your journey. If I may, you might consider this order of assembly after your thermal det. Biceps (they're largely hidden by shoulder bells) Shoulder bells (simple, with no assembly) Forearms (next smallest pieces) Left shin (with sniper knee to help hide misalignment) Right shin Right thigh (with ammo pack to help hide misalignment) Left thigh Torso parts Helmet (generally considered the most difficult) I look forward to following along on your build! I'm glad to meet you, I've seen a few of your posts! You are so kind, and you provide really great detail that has already helped me. I have read that painting the tube grey is not necessary, but I'd like to do it. Does it have to be gunmetal grey, or could it be something close? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloseTheBlastDoor Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, revlimiter said: Firstly, this is a FANTASTIC username. Bravo!!! I unfortunately have not great news... WTF armor is pretty small. Even petite troopers usually need to add shims to the side torso area. The shins are enormous, but the rest of the armor is suited for smaller troopers. I've assisted in several WTF builds. BUT!!! Don't get discouraged. Many have taken it to Centurion. You can do it! It's just not the "easy button" of TK builds. Definitely ask for help when things get confusing. Hoo boy, thanks for that heads-up! Another trooper who is 6'2" said that I should buy from WTF. I will certainly ask for guidance when I get to the torso, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 8 minutes ago, CloseTheBlastDoor said: I have read that painting the tube grey is not necessary, but I'd like to do it. Does it have to be gunmetal grey, or could it be something close? Thanks! You do need to paint the tube grey, has to be grey not gunmetal, grey similar to helmet trap grey. I used grey primer and coated in clear paint. CRL (Costume Reference Gallery) https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_anh_stunt Detonator consists of an all grey cylinder, without silver stickers or silver paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, CloseTheBlastDoor said: Hoo boy, thanks for that heads-up! Another trooper who is 6'2" said that I should buy from WTF. I will certainly ask for guidance when I get to the torso, etc. Pretty much over 6" most will go for Dave's Darkdside (AM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly11[Admin] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) Welcome to FISD Hanson (CTBD) looks lies the team are offering good advice, which is what we are here for. Please ask as many questions as you need, and do share photos of any progress. We love photos. It is also best to use an image hosting service, as data space on the forums is very limited if you directly add photos. The product of choice with many members is called IMGUR. https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/48799-posting-photos-using-imgur-101/ Edited February 1 by Sly11 Gramatical corrections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloseTheBlastDoor Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 57 minutes ago, gmrhodes13 said: You do need to paint the tube grey, has to be grey not gunmetal, grey similar to helmet trap grey. I used grey primer and coated in clear paint. CRL (Costume Reference Gallery) https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_anh_stunt Detonator consists of an all grey cylinder, without silver stickers or silver paint Oh, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedVengeance[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, CloseTheBlastDoor said: I'm glad to meet you, I've seen a few of your posts! You are so kind, and you provide really great detail that has already helped me. I have read that painting the tube grey is not necessary, but I'd like to do it. Does it have to be gunmetal grey, or could it be something close? As Glen mentioned, the tube MUST be grey, but you may or may not have to paint it depending on the color of the raw tube. Some plumbing tube is produced grey, though you may need to sand off some black lettering. As for the specific shade of grey, the general goal is to match the grey paint color used on your helmet. This means using something close to, or exactly the following: Humbrol 5 enamel Testors 1138 enamel Testors 1238 spray enamel (matches the brush-painted 1138 listed above) Notice that I've recommended all enamel paints since once they are cured they are quite durable. If you're looking at my own build thread, the first grey (gunmetal I think) that I used was too dark. Man, I really need to finish my build thread!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloseTheBlastDoor Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 29 minutes ago, MaskedVengeance said: As Glen mentioned, the tube MUST be grey, but you may or may not have to paint it depending on the color of the raw tube. Some plumbing tube is produced grey, though you may need to sand off some black lettering. As for the specific shade of grey, the general goal is to match the grey paint color used on your helmet. This means using something close to, or exactly the following: Humbrol 5 enamel Testors 1138 enamel Testors 1238 spray enamel (matches the brush-painted 1138 listed above) Notice that I've recommended all enamel paints since once they are cured they are quite durable. If you're looking at my own build thread, the first grey (gunmetal I think) that I used was too dark. Man, I really need to finish my build thread!! The pipe in the WTF kit is white PVC, so I do have to paint. . I'll check my local hobby shops for Testors 1238. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justjoseph63[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 I wouldn't suggest Testors for painting the tube, Hanson. It would take quite a few bottles and it would probably leave ridges due to the viscosity. What I would suggest is to follow what Glen recommended and use gray primer (spray can) which will leave a smooth finish. I would also sand it down with some fine (500 or higher) sandpaper to take the shine off and give the paint better adhesion. Posting photos is pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I have a tutorial here which will help. Looking forward to following your progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly11[Admin] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Testers grey is available in a small rattle can, mine has done several det tubes over the years and on testing the paint just last week, it is still good to go. Check your local hobby shops, asking for 1237 Semi Gloss Primer, comes in a 3oz spray can It is enamel paint. It is very close to the Traps and tears for the helmet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairy[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Hello Hanson! Being 6" is very common, and with your weight I think you'll get it to fit you in a nice way with shims! I'm 6" (with shims) and for me the biggest thing was that the gap between the thigh and shins was a little bit large due to my long legs. What I did there was to just velcro the shins to sit a tiny bit higher on my boots to meet up with the thighs! Sometimes I put them too high if I haven't got a spotter with me, but that is the good thing about velcro, just do it again! I think you get the gist! But you'll get there when you get there, first off - THERMAL DATONATOR! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedVengeance[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 The primers that Joseph and Andrew mention will be perfect, but I've also had great results with the Testors 1238 spray, linked below at Hobby Lobby. Notice the adjacent number patterns as they are all related (1138 regular paint, 1237 spray primer, 1238 spray paint). https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Model-Kits/Paint-Brushes/Gray-Testors-Spray-Enamel/p/1043 I'm not gonna share here how many cans of 1238 I've purchased, but I will just drop these: @revlimiter is now in possession of one of these. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKSpartan[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Welcome aboard ! Good luck and looking forward for your advances and photos ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloseTheBlastDoor Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 8 hours ago, justjoseph63 said: I wouldn't suggest Testors for painting the tube, Hanson. It would take quite a few bottles and it would probably leave ridges due to the viscosity. What I would suggest is to follow what Glen recommended and use gray primer (spray can) which will leave a smooth finish. I would also sand it down with some fine (500 or higher) sandpaper to take the shine off and give the paint better adhesion. Posting photos is pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I have a tutorial here which will help. Looking forward to following your progress! Thank you, Joseph! That's some good advice on both paint and photos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloseTheBlastDoor Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, MaskedVengeance said: The primers that Joseph and Andrew mention will be perfect, but I've also had great results with the Testors 1238 spray, linked below at Hobby Lobby. Notice the adjacent number patterns as they are all related (1138 regular paint, 1237 spray primer, 1238 spray paint). https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Model-Kits/Paint-Brushes/Gray-Testors-Spray-Enamel/p/1043 I'm not gonna share here how many cans of 1238 I've purchased, but I will just drop these: @revlimiter is now in possession of one of these. Thanks, Caleb, I'll see what I can get my hands on either online or at my local stores. Those TD's look really great! I'm glad you included the photos because I see that you've masked off where you put the button piece, which I assume is for better adhesion? Would you use E6000 there? Also, if I go the primer route, like Glen mentioned, do you recommend clear coat after the paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloseTheBlastDoor Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 6 hours ago, Nairy said: Hello Hanson! Being 6" is very common, and with your weight I think you'll get it to fit you in a nice way with shims! I'm 6" (with shims) and for me the biggest thing was that the gap between the thigh and shins was a little bit large due to my long legs. What I did there was to just velcro the shins to sit a tiny bit higher on my boots to meet up with the thighs! Sometimes I put them too high if I haven't got a spotter with me, but that is the good thing about velcro, just do it again! I think you get the gist! But you'll get there when you get there, first off - THERMAL DATONATOR! Hi Jonatan! This is good advice, I will put that in my notes for when I get there. I might have more questions later. Did you have issues with the torso, too? I guess we're a little tall for a stormtrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedVengeance[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 E-6000 all the way for as much of your armor build as you can! It's slow setup time allows you to make fine adjustments, and it can also be removed after-the-fact for corrections. So yes, I used E-6000 under the control panels, and as you can see, sanded the tubes to maximize adhesion. When you tape off the area though, just be sure the footprint is smaller than the actual panel so you don't accidentally leave and unpainted tube exposed. As for clear coat, I don't with the enamel spray, but you could do it with primer if you want. Just be sure to get a non-glossy clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revlimiter[Staff] Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 15 hours ago, CloseTheBlastDoor said: Hoo boy, thanks for that heads-up! Another trooper who is 6'2" said that I should buy from WTF. I will certainly ask for guidance when I get to the torso, etc. The chest and abs will want to create a gap on most troopers over 5'10" with Walts armor. You'll need to really strap those two pieces together well to make sure no black appears between them. Cheating the chest down away from your neck a little and letting the crotch strap be a little loose will help as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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