JoeR Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Just received this in the post this morning. On an aside note, it is so different from my moulds, after seeing this helmet and my other 2 helmets, I now believe that there were 3 ROTJ moulds, there is so much difference between the three types. I am going to do a movie accurate 2009 build up with a very yellow looking aged helmet and I want the round edged satin frown non background look to it. I have sourced machined mic tips and am actively looking for: * Snap poppers with the same brand as the originals. * An accurate hard hat liner. * Soft leather for the hard hat liner. I will also be doing cast from my original mould lenses as well. If anyone is interested drop me a pm Whatever anyone says about Matt, he knows his Stormtroopers like no-one else, having handled originals in the LFL archives, kudos to his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFA Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Very nice looking helmet Joe. Do you have any info on the brand of snaps and the type of hard hat liner ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeR Posted August 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Very nice looking helmet Joe. Do you have any info on the brand of snaps and the type of hard hat liner ? The brand snaps say 'Newey England' on the top, which is a miltary.WWII brand I think and there is no brand on the hard hat liner. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FON Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Nice looking helmet Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishtrooper Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Joe that is one sweet looking bucket, looking forward to seeing you build this beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I don't think there were three helmet moulds in ROTJ. The reason it looks different from the two other ROTJ helmets is because the moulds have been messed with. The back and cap is too small and the forehead too big. I would say that this helmet is just a recast of one of his old ROTJ's from a decade ago. It would be great to see it side by side with your original Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeR Posted August 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I don't think there were three helmet moulds in ROTJ. The reason it looks different from the two other ROTJ helmets is because the moulds have been messed with. The back and cap is too small and the forehead too big. I would say that this helmet is just a recast of one of his old ROTJ's from a decade ago. It would be great to see it side by side with your original Joe. Maybe you are right, but the differences are beyond touch up, the traps on this vary massively compared to the background and non background helmets. On this helmet the chin has been way over sharpened, the teeth have been over sharpened, you are right it probably is a recast from one of his own helmets. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThayNerd[TK] Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Nice lid Joe. Can't wait to watch your build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCG Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Nice lid Joe. Can't wait to watch your build. Congrats Joe! I want to do the same with my second helmet Looking forward to see your progress. Cheers A PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper18938 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Looks good, Joe. I was under the understanding that TE's new "ROTJ" lids were actually copies of a "TOUR" helmet.....therefore a recast of a recast so to speak... could TE shed any light on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCG Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Looks good, Joe. I was under the understanding that TE's new "ROTJ" lids were actually copies of a "TOUR" helmet.....therefore a recast of a recast so to speak... could TE shed any light on this? I was told by Matt that he restored his old casting. Basically he sharpened the details up. Cheers A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Jax Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I was told by Matt that he restored his old casting. Basically he sharpened the details up. Cheers A Precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper18938 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Thanks for the clarification, guys. Regardless, its still a great-looking lid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1970[501st] Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I agree, regardless of it's varitions it looks like a beauty. Can't wait to see the build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeR Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Got some perfect mic tips thanks to Leo. I am working on a getting a run of machined tips done. More on that later. Apprently Elvistrooper also does machined tips. I tried a test coat of a plasticote yellow, but it is not nearly brown enough. I don't think there is a spray can colour out there that will match the faded ABS so I think I will go for Death Star sparkling trooper. I also started on the teeth, matching the rough cuts on the originals, they need a little more filing, but are almost done. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FON Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 That colour looks pretty good Joe.. like its been in the hot sun for a few years. Appliance white is a good go between I have found when painting helmets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Looking great so far Joe What finish are you going for on the black frown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCG Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Got some perfect mic tips thanks to Leo. I am working on a getting a run of machined tips done. More on that later. Apprently Elvistrooper also does machined tips. I tried a test coat of a plasticote yellow, but it is not nearly brown enough. I don't think there is a spray can colour out there that will match the faded ABS so I think I will go for Death Star sparkling trooper. I also started on the teeth, matching the rough cuts on the originals, they need a little more filing, but are almost done. Joe Very nice Joe, I really like the color tone you picked for your helmet, nice choice . Nice tips BTW, do they come with the filter behind the mesh? Cheers A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebladejedi[TK] Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 I love these jedi helmet builds, nice going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Looking good Joe, should keep you going until the we have some new ones ready Keith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Trooper Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I really dig the mic tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Thats looking really nice! ROTJ troopers deserves its place. Keep us updated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK8280 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Thats one sweet helmet Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Just received this in the post this morning. On an aside note, it is so different from my moulds, after seeing this helmet and my other 2 helmets, I now believe that there were 3 ROTJ moulds, there is so much difference between the three types. Joe, I'm sure there were only two versions of ROTJ helmet, not three. Its good to see the ROTJ helmet from the TE molds AT LAST, but i think the reason we have not seen pulls from these molds in the ten or so years they have been around is because the molds needed so much work. I don't know what molding process was used, but looking at the uneven surface on the cap/back in other photos of this replica in other threads here, it looks like it may have been done without taking the helmet apart, maybe even from the outside of the helmet. Or done in a real hurry. Either way, there must be a reason why the cap/back surface has turned out like that. Is this face from the ROTJ molds? I don't see the lump in the right tube. Not sure the ears are ROTJ either unless the helmet was the background/SF style helmet. I'm not calling this helmet, i think it looks great when finished. And whatever problems people may have with TE, i still say he had the guts to take an original ANH helmet apart and have it molded and thats the only reason we have the replicas we now have. But something went wrong molding the Jedi helmet. It would be interesting to know the story. Like i said though, it looks really nice when its all painted up and finished. Keith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-7980 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I've been told by CAP that the ROTJ helmets were recast off of one of the ANH helmets that CAP pulled and sent to TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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