Daetrin[Admin] Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) It's here: ----------- It is not everything we submitted but it's really good I think. It doesn't specify whether it's OK to mix or match, but at least the correct movie specific details are called out. While I would have preferred the no mix/match specification at least in the "should have", I think it is far better than the standard it replaces and I give credit to Mark/LC for not watering it down as many would have liked it to be. This is a great day for TK's - we *finally* have a published standard. Like it, hate it, or not care - we have something official. Let the discussion begin! Edited February 21, 2022 by gmrhodes13 link not working removed Quote
synaptyx Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 Great. I'm with you on the clear 'no mix or match' front. I feel it would be helpful for that to be made clear, thus avoiding disappointment later when/if somebody has to re-do parts of their costume. Quote
tatooine Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 CRL excerpt: - Thighs - white armored thigh covers that close in the back (the right thigh piece must have an ammo belt at the bottom) - Shins - white armored shin/calf covers that close in the back (the right shin plate must have a polygon-shaped knee plate at the top) Isn't the knee plate, aka 'sniper plate' supposed to be on the left side? I'd be kinda hard walking with the knee plate banging up against the ammo thigh piece. Or am I reading this wrong? <_< Quote
SuperTrooper Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 I'm happy with the final version. What we submitted was alot more robust but we did it knowing it would get get a rewrite or two before it was done. We'll have to send a message about the left shin plate. Quote
Daric LaRone[501st] Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 Impressive. Most impressive. :vader1: Big salutes to the Admin Staff and FISD leadership who made this huge milestone, an official published standard for TKs, possible. Quote
TK4205 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 CRL excerpt: - Thighs - white armored thigh covers that close in the back (the right thigh piece must have an ammo belt at the bottom) - Shins - white armored shin/calf covers that close in the back (the right shin plate must have a polygon-shaped knee plate at the top) Isn't the knee plate, aka 'sniper plate' supposed to be on the left side? I'd be kinda hard walking with the knee plate banging up against the ammo thigh piece. Or am I reading this wrong? <_< Don't worry, I read it wrong too I'm sure it's a typo that will get fixed. Quote
TK-7060 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 Looks really good. And nice way to have the elite standards implemented but not just pulled down over peoples heads. Would like to see the helmet section a bit more tidy though. Hard to read such a massive block of text. (Speaking as the English teacher I am... ) Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Posted March 1, 2009 Don't worry, I read it wrong too I'm sure it's a typo that will get fixed. Me too - I'll give the web team a ding. Quote
Tiepilot1138[TK] Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 Nice. I have one question though. My MRCE Stunt helmet has 5 ridges on the ear pieces, not 4. Which is correct? The standards on here don't specify. Quote
Tiepilot1138[TK] Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 It also says the earpieces "may" have screws. I thought they were mandatory. Quote
TK6540UKG Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 It also says the earpieces "may" have screws. I thought they were mandatory. Only ANH & ESB helmets may have screws fitted. ROTJ lids didn't have any. However, you don't need to have screws on any helmet for it to be 501st accepted... they are only needed on the relevent helmet if you want to go 'Elite'. Quote
TK6540UKG Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 Nice. I have one question though. My MRCE Stunt helmet has 5 ridges on the ear pieces, not 4. Which is correct? The standards on here don't specify. Again, you only need to replace the ears on the MRCE if you want 'Elite' status. A basic out of the box MRCE is acceptable for 501st standards. Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Posted March 1, 2009 Again, you only need to replace the ears on the MRCE if you want 'Elite' status. A basic out of the box MRCE is acceptable for 501st standards. Actually this is not true. An out of the box MRCE is not 501st acceptable and never was. The UKG pioneered a set of changes to make them as such and this was adopted by the LMO as policy. You need to add ear screws, replace the lenses, fill the chin gap (most use white silicone), and clean up the teeth if needed. Yes, this actually does make the requirements for MRCE tighter than an FX, but that's what's written in to policy. Quote
TK6540UKG Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 Actually this is not true. An out of the box MRCE is not 501st acceptable and never was. The UKG pioneered a set of changes to make them as such and this was adopted by the LMO as policy. You need to add ear screws, replace the lenses, fill the chin gap (most use white silicone), and clean up the teeth if needed. Yes, this actually does make the requirements for MRCE tighter than an FX, but that's what's written in to policy. Cheers for that Paul... I stand corrected. I knew the UKG built their own standards for this bucket, but didn't realise the 501st took it on too... good show. Now... if only we could get rid of that FX lid.....lol. Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Posted March 1, 2009 No worries Mark - it's hard to keep up on everything. We (FISD) should do a better job of ensuring this info is more readily available. Quote
davej[TK] Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 Don't worry, I read it wrong too I'm sure it's a typo that will get fixed. Damnit , I just riveted my sniper plate to my right calf !! It's about bloody time the CRL's were put in place, well done to all involved Quote
moisturefarmer Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 The RT-MOD helmet doesn't have ear ridges at all. Does that mean it's not acceptable for Elite status? Quote
SuperTrooper Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 The RT-MOD helmet doesn't have ear ridges at all. Does that mean it's not acceptable for Elite status? The ear ridges they are talking about are the bumps on the ear caps, the RT has them. Also the CRL has nothing to do with the elite program, it is a text version of the Legions costume requirements for 501st membership. Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Posted March 2, 2009 Some other comments were raised on the 501st boards - let's see if the new LMO makes those updates. Quote
TK8776 jgarrettg Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 That's great! You guys did a great job getting that together. Thanks! Quote
Murray1134[501st] Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 Thanks everyone for there hard work on this. Quote
Daetrin[Admin] Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Posted March 3, 2009 Remember that this still is up for LC vote. Let's pray it survives intact. Quote
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