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And, here it is. I'm the black pauldron wearing TD playing tight end on the right. We ended up playing 4 downs or so before we were called back. Wish someone had a video...

Thanks, or I can run a poll just as easily TBH. I think I'll wait until after elections though - don't want to muddy any waters.

If it fits properly, you should be very mobile. I have an old photo if I can find it of us TKs playing a down of football against the TBs at the Rose Parade in 2007.

Dang, this is amazing! Great work

I don't have the latest data, but it used to be that the time to create an FO suit from trimming->done is over 100 hours, vs. much less for an OT TK. @Sly11 & @Dark CMF, sounds like this would be a great poll to run soon? Usually once a year we have a "what armor are you wearing" poll to track this over time, I think a 'how much time did you spend building your suit' sounds good too. TBH, maybe making it a Google Form would be much easier.

The #1 reason I created this place was because I was tired of people in and out of the Legion give me a lot of bad advice that was advantageous to their or their friend's pocket book, and not my best interest. There is a reason why the "where to buy" threads are so well read, and that we (FISD) was the pioneer in publishing that data. Stay on it and you won't go bad. Not saying there aren't other good makers out there, but they may or may not make our quality bar and it's at buyer beware. At the least, you should know the lineage of what you are buying.

For sure - this looks promising so interested to see how it turns out.

It really comes down to person's individual costume. IMHO, it's like snowtroopers that way - some people look awesome & others not so much. For sure some one will do this and we'll have a different CRL. As for various armor types, even in a modern military there can be an overlap of equipment that is fielded. Not sure how it is now, but in my era for instance we had just regular BDUs and M16A1s, while the regular army folks had summer weights & M16A2s. My first unit still had jeeps for years before humvees trickled down. It's very conceivable in a huge empire like this that older, functional armor would still be around, especially in the outer rim. Just because new armor gets fielded doesn't mean that everyone has the cash to upgrade immediately. Heck, look at the USAF - the B2 didn't exactly replace the B52 now, did it? Yup, they are flying airplanes older than 85% of the US population.

As many have said, it just depends on the garrison. Like others, mine is that for formal events it's canon only, but for others you can break out the fun. Cons are an excellent example where people just go nuts at times. As for those book references, if you ever want them to be official you'd have to create the costume and help get the CRL done. It's certainly possible and we have several that are from games, etc. (e.g. Battlefront). In the end though, if it's just various add-ons but the armor is the same, that you'll likely find is that there is a single base URL with "options" for various looks.

Damn - beat me to it! Truth - can't wait to see it Reece - lead the way!!!!

As Andrew points out there can be some back and forth between the prop makers we rely on and our standards. There is no point in making a standard that it impossible or extremely hard to achieve without a lot of money or custom work. On the other hand, the prop makers have certainly responded to the increase in our CRL and EI requirements over time. They do not ship plastic belts, oversized black ab-plate buttons, and single piece back plates like they used to because we no longer allowed them at L1 CRL. So Andrew is correct that the positive path is to push the state of the art forward in concert with the suppliers as best they can be met.

I think for reference, but man that was one awful movie. Not sure how it could be saved. Then too, I to think TROS would benefit from additional footage...

Thanks! That is the best compliment I can get. The main reason I started FISD back in 2006 is because there was complete lack of transparency around armor in the 501st at the time, and it wasn't uncommon for new members to be led astray to bad recast armor, or only to find that once in the 501st people would tell them where to get the good stuff (by which point you had already plunked down $1500 on armor from eBay). Providing current and prospective members with accurate information so they can make informed choices has always been our mission, so I'm glad to hear we are still achieving that 14 years later

Wow - this looks great! Really complete on the photo set you shared - hopefully you'll get good news soon.

Awesome - great to see one in full centurion. Well done

Awesome

Are they meant to invoke the feel of clone troopers?

Looks great Glen!

That does look cool!

Awesome!!!!

The only two words that come to mind are: Bad. Ass.

Hey all - I was asked this question via email and thought I may as well answer it for everyone, as I get this question a lot: Boy Scouts was started by Lord Baden Powell, who was a General in the British Army and used boys for reconnaissance and scouting tasks during the Siege of Mafeking. On his return, he wrote Scouting for Boys (published in 1908), and later formed the Boy Scouts Association in 1910. He did a lot of things that are certainly worth reading about. Daniel Carter Beard was a Freemason who founded Sons of Daniel Boone in 1905 and later merged in to to the Boy Scouts of America, which was brought over to the US from the UK by W.D. Boyce in 1910. He also organized Camp Fire Girls. He did many other things, but being an active Freemason as well as one of the pioneers in of the Scouting movement in the US was part of the reason why the Daniel Carter Beard Masonic Scouting award was created. The eligibility requirements are: And yes, I'm a recent recipient of this award. I think everyone has had some experience with Scouting either as a youth or as an adult. Boy Scouts USA has recently renamed itself to Scouting BSA and opened it's program to girls, which is now growing rapidly (though unlike outside the US, in the US the girls and boys are in separate units). It is certainly one of the best program in developing youth of character, integrity, citizenship, and leadership. The aims of Freemasonry are very similar to the aims of the Scouting Movement, and until recently in the US at least, it was pretty common for men of character in a community to also be Freemasons, which you can glean from this person's experience - and one I hear a lot - of "my grandfather & father were Masons, but I am not and I'm not sure why". It started in the 60's with the counter culture movement in the US, where many social and fraternal organizations saw a significant and continued drop in membership. There are very few avenues for men today to form bonds with other men of character, and to be part of a world-wide (and oldest) fraternity in the world, who's stated goal is to provide a path for men to mentor each other to be better men. My goal in all this is to help increase collaboration between these two groups, hence getting this graphic going to help with the marketing. People who have been in scouting as youth or adults tend to be the same type of people who make excellent Freemasons.

Jayke - please also email me your info to feibao@gmail.com. Alas I'm not getting notifications from FISD, so have to manually check-in to see any new responses to this thread. Philip - got your email and responded. THANK YOU GUYS!!!

Wish there was a way to get these online. My chances of getting there in person are slimmer than none.

FISD's charter is only basic troopers, not specials. SKY should go to SpecOps as well, TBH, but at the time SpecOps didn't seem to wantit.