Lichtbringer

At a fan sculpted kit i like the own personal effort that was put into it, the work, blood and sweat - that makes another level for me than pure copying it and selling for max profit.

He was paid for his work and is out, so his opinion is not more worth than yours or mine. If there is a official Disney/Lfl letter that says they are ok with it, now that would be another thing.

I don´t fight, it´s a valid discussionpoint for me - but i also don´t shut up cause some others don´t have the same opinion and would prefer to only hear what they want and like. I´m here cause some people do fine work i like to watch, that´s all i´m really interrested in.

It all comes down to "they make money from other peoples work" - and that´s what i don´t like.

No, i need no friends that are only friends when being pampered and hear what they want.

That´s nice for the waiting costumers, but it means nothing otherwise. They have a margin per suit/item - for sure they didn´t grow for the good of the community, they did to produce more and make more money.

I would agree if they made their own. But they are not reproducing, they are copying. Under the line they are nothing more than recasters. After loosing against Ainsworth Lfl might have decided it´s not worth to go after it - or maybe they even think it´s good for advertizing. But being not sued is not the same as being on the good side. As long as this hobby cries havoc to one sort of recasters, but let those slip through from which they think they want stuff ...... i see no reason not to point with my finger on those "accepted" recasters.

WE are in this hobby, so we have our opinion on the various things - that makes us biased. If you ask non SW costume/prop fans, generic uninterested people ..... most would say it´s wrong to copy such a suit and make money from that. For most i know it´s more or less theft. I´m talking about people who have no interest in any aspect of the hobby. If it´s OK that they profit from Lfl made stuff and not their own work, it would be OK if i buy a RS suit, and have made copies in a friends industrial vacform company for selling them? In my books both actions are wrong. As mentioned above, i see it different if they would have used pics to crate their own, but copying directly from a Lfl suit is not only a registering or IP problem. Sure RS is greedy. We know vacformed stuff can be made cheaper. Aside their not using their own work and just copy other peoples work, they take profit from the fact they can ask a much higher price than needed (or others do). Other makers provide a service, offering the wanted stuff made from their own work, and asking noticeable less from the community. THAT´s providing a service.

I´m guessing many here never have been on service? The equipment isn´t even given to all soldiers in a small national army at the same time. We (airborne) got some stuff that other units (mostly no combat, transport and such) were still waiting for 3-5 years later, sometimes for testing, sometimes just for daily use. I can´t even estimate the time the same thing would take in a military spread over hundredthousands of lightyears and thousand to millions of worlds. Different armor is nothing i would consider unrealistic.

I could mostly agree if a maker would have created suits/masters on their own (as some did). But as they make direct copies ox Lfl made costumes only, most nonbiased people would clearly see that as not right. No matter if the UK law loophole let them and Ainsworth continue. And that often brought charity argument means nothing, such should have no impact to right/wrong. Stealing money and give it to the poor, that´s Robin Hood, but no justice covered action. Additional at their prices, forgive me, they don´t do it for the 501 or charity (then they would offer it much cheaper, which is prooven to be doable), they do it for the greed, earning as much money from each sold suit as possible.

You can get a lot of different answers on that, depending on who answers. First you should decide which look you like better, as you will have to look at it for some time and it´s your money, this should be your major consideration. Going the line that both armors are basically the same in size and shape - RS has a surface like the cheap and fast made armors on set, wartsy and bumpy (some like this), Anovos has made some "adjustments", while still wonky as the original suits the surface has be smoothed to be nice and shiny (other like that). Then RS is quite some time making armor and in that time many people have bought it - a lot of times such makes people feeling toward their armor maker (same with other makers), so their answers are mostly biased toward what they have. Regarding your concerns about plagiarism - RS makes not allowed copies of a Lfl suit that never should be made, they only can due to a loophole in UK laws. Anovos might have used RS and maybe other sources to generate their suit, due to the sanitation and shaping work it is not the one to one copy as RS tried to generate from the original suit, and they have the license and are allowed to use the Lfl made stuff (which would include the suit RS used, if it wouldn´t have disappeared at Lfl and re-appeared in RS hands). For me RS has not made any design work (direct copy of a Lfl), they have not sculpted their own armor like other makers did, they have no license. So ... there is no reason they "deserve" any protection.

It doesn´t matter if anyone accepts it, it´s completely OK. If you think different, go and chat with Disney regarding your thoughts and wishes. Nonetheless funny, thinking how many selfcalled experts first were debating how good old RS is, and how ugly and inferior the new Anovos.

Funny, for me it´s straight the other direction. TFA trailers didn´t impress me in any way, and it was only good enough for me to see it one time in the cinema (i will still buy the 3D BR for my cinema, but probably only when it´s on sale). But the Rogue trailer makes me think "there is still hope". And no more hungry ballerinas in plastic is no bad start.

Less crappy is only possible if all existing armor is heaviliy sanitized.

You mean as it is? That would make it a pure display piece in a glass cabinet, if i want to use it for a MG 15 build, it has at least to get some black paint.

Time consuming, but so much fun to watch. Crazy germans.

But it´s one of the hardest to get right parts. Some days ago i was able to get this original in my sweaty hands: Not much corrosion, i think i will not clean and bring it to a smooth condition - intend to keep it´s history, just some primer/black paint. Some small corrosion holes on the top bracket that needs some work, but the most work will be to find the correct bolts to change the installed wrong ones: And a new leather strap needs to be made.

No matter what price - it looks no good condition to me. I´m glad i decided to pay more to get a metal one.

Well, we all know Stormtroopers are what the redshirts are in StarTrek - they don´t hit a wall in front of them, and die in a dozen.

It is as much a fun costume as any Rubies. Battleready in the way as a armor that is not build just to make female trooper look more female. As mentioned, just a halloween costume, nothing i would consider a "Stormtrooper". But something one can have fun with, as with a Rubies, too.

Just mail them and ask. Maybe they can put you on a restock-list, to ensure to get one before they are sold out again.

Well, that´s what makes a soldier.

Not much over that, I paid 429,- (http://www.zib-militaria.de/MG-34-mit-Zweibein-Vollmetall-Modell, atm sold out) And only 7-8,- for shipping inside Germany, no big shipping charge + customs. If you are interested, here is my thread: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/34882-my-new-dlt/

Dlt and from Germany - what is your budget? <br><br> I bought the all metal from ZIB Militaria,Hamburg.

Aye, but nonetheless the legacy stuff is in a comic ..... for me it´s nothing more than a halloween costume, not better than any Rubies (no matter the build quality). High heeled and female shaped ...... no battleworthy armor like a stormtrooper should be, just something for chicks who want be costumed a little bit sexy and a little bit trooper. Only partial better level as the boob-troopers.