Daetrin[Admin] Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Or, this? It will take us to 2026, at the earliest. 1 - no stars 2 - 1 bronze 3 - 2 bronze 4 - 3 bronze 5 - 1 silver 6 - 1 silver, 1 bronze 7 - 1 silver, 2 bronze 8 - 1 silver, 3 bronze 9 - 2 silver 10 - 1 gold 11 - 1 gold, 1 bronze 12 - 1 gold, 2 bronze 13 - 1 gold, 3 bronze 14 - 2 gold, 1 silver 15 - 3 gold 16 - 3 gold, 1 bronze 17 - 3 gold, 2 bronze 18 - 3 gold, 3 bronze 19 - 3 gold, 4 bronze 19 - 3 gold, 1 sliver 20 - 4 gold For EI, your ascii would work. Unless we ever have > 15 costumes, we should be good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Daetrin said: Or, this? It will take us to 2026, at the earliest. 1 - no stars 2 - 1 bronze 3 - 2 bronze 4 - 3 bronze 5 - 1 silver 6 - 1 silver, 1 bronze 7 - 1 silver, 2 bronze 8 - 1 silver, 3 bronze 9 - 2 silver 10 - 1 gold 11 - 1 gold, 1 bronze 12 - 1 gold, 2 bronze 13 - 1 gold, 3 bronze 14 - 2 gold, 1 silver 15 - 3 gold 16 - 3 gold, 1 bronze 17 - 3 gold, 2 bronze 18 - 3 gold, 3 bronze 19 - 3 gold, 4 bronze 19 - 3 gold, 1 sliver 20 - 4 gold For EI, your ascii would work. Unless we ever have > 15 costumes, we should be good. Fitting 7 stars on one ribbon isn't going to look very good in my opinion, which is why a second row is used in real-life. Hence my suggestion of capping at 15. Edited February 28, 2018 by Harbinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daetrin[Admin] Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 You are right. Let's cap at 15 which at least gets us to 2021 at the earliest. EDIT (darn laptop): For 16+, use a best judgment for now on color to take us past 15 years, and when we get to 2022 if we don't like it we can revisit it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Yeah, can always retroactively add bronze EI stars if someone gets to 13+ or redo the ribbon stars if/when someone gets to sixteen years of service, this'll do for now. PSDs will still be here in 2021 if we need to add/make changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Daetrin said: You are right. Let's cap at 15 which at least gets us to 2021 at the earliest. EDIT (darn laptop): For 16+, use a best judgment for now on color to take us past 15 years, and when we get to 2022 if we don't like it we can revisit it then. I still think the logical progression is platinum (and diamond beyond that if anyone ever makes it beyond twenty years) since almost everyone has it as the next level after gold: It may be best to get this figured out now. I don't know what you anticipate to be the upper limit for years or service, but I'm worried about creating ever-higher awards if we get into the 30+ year range. A few options: A.) Stop at 15 years as in previous post. Either no further awards after 15 years, special 16+ year award, or new ribbon/award for 16+ years. B.) Platinum, 5/6 stars "special", no more stars 19 years (23 if diamond is added and 5/6 reserved for diamond level), sparkles or something for 20+: [No Stars] * ** *** **** * ** *** **** * ** *** **** * ** *** **** ***** ****** Same as 19 but with sparkles C.) 5/6 stars on all levels (would also affect EI if being consistent, which means gold EI awards would now start at #8 instead of #6. Caps out at 25 years (31 w/ additional level): [No Stars] * ** *** **** ***** ****** * ** *** **** ***** ****** * ** *** **** ***** ****** * ** *** **** ***** ****** ???? (sparkles?) I don't really like option "C" because the intent behind the 5/6 star circlets was that they should be a special thing used only at the highest level as one last little piece of bling, I also don't want to take away stars from people who have earned a certain level of service/EIB (as this system would demote those currently with gold service/EI badges). Personally I would lean for B.) with a silver/gold/platinum (capped at 15) system for EI. If you've been on staff for more than 20 years you get a car or something. Edited February 28, 2018 by Harbinger typos galore, added more clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) @Daetrin A few more options (probably too many, but again let's figure this out now). Going back to the military well, ribbons can have gold/silver borders in addition to stars to denote additional awards/etcetera: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_frame Quick mockup of gold/platinum frames: So, if we run with this, a couple options (going to start from D to avoid confusion with the last post): D.) No platinum stars, gold frame for 16+: [No Stars] * ** *** **** * ** *** **** * ** *** **** ***** ****** GOLD FRAME w/ [No Stars] GOLD FRAME w/ * GOLD FRAME w/ ** GOLD FRAME w/ *** GOLD FRAME w/ **** GOLD FRAME w/ * GOLD FRAME w/ ** GOLD FRAME w/ *** GOLD FRAME w/ **** GOLD FRAME w/ * GOLD FRAME w/ ** GOLD FRAME w/ *** GOLD FRAME w/ **** GOLD FRAME w/ ***** GOLD FRAME w/ ****** This takes you to 30 years before a change is needed. E.) Platinum stars and platinum frame (color coordination means no gold frame in this case): [No Stars] * ** *** **** * ** *** **** * ** *** **** * ** *** **** ***** ****** PLATINUM FRAME w/ [No Stars] PLATINUM FRAME w/ * PLATINUM FRAME w/ ** PLATINUM FRAME w/ *** PLATINUM FRAME w/ **** PLATINUM FRAME w/ * PLATINUM FRAME w/ ** PLATINUM FRAME w/ *** PLATINUM FRAME w/ **** PLATINUM FRAME w/ * PLATINUM FRAME w/ ** PLATINUM FRAME w/ *** PLATINUM FRAME w/ **** PLATINUM FRAME w/ * PLATINUM FRAME w/ ** PLATINUM FRAME w/ *** PLATINUM FRAME w/ **** PLATINUM FRAME w/ ***** PLATINUM FRAME w/ ****** Eight year difference, so really depends on if you like the frames and/or platinum stars. Edited February 28, 2018 by Harbinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daetrin[Admin] Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Let's go with D please. FISD's colors are: black, white, infantry blue, and gold. US Army: Black & Gold US Infantry: Infantry Blue Star Wars Stormtroopers: Black & White, plus blue details on tube stripes, etc. So they all tie together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Sticking to those colors, for EIB, maybe blue stars after gold so we can bump that up to 15 too? Or for more differentiation: Just an idea. Edited February 28, 2018 by Harbinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daetrin[Admin] Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Like! Will be interesting to see who gets there first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Condensing the recent discussion for reference and any further feedback. Current proposal for levels is as follows: Service/Achievement Award Levels [No Stars] * ** *** **** * ** *** **** * ** *** **** ***** ****** GOLD FRAME w/ [No Stars] GOLD FRAME w/ * GOLD FRAME w/ ** GOLD FRAME w/ *** GOLD FRAME w/ **** GOLD FRAME w/ * GOLD FRAME w/ ** GOLD FRAME w/ *** GOLD FRAME w/ **** GOLD FRAME w/ * GOLD FRAME w/ ** GOLD FRAME w/ *** GOLD FRAME w/ **** GOLD FRAME w/ ***** GOLD FRAME w/ ****** Expert Infantry Badge Levels OR [No Stars] * ** *** **** * ** *** **** * ** *** **** ***** ****** Edited March 1, 2018 by Harbinger Removed gold writing option for EI, always silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 People other than Paul feel free to chime in, only a couple days left for feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daetrin[Admin] Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Yeah, I'll shut up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 You don’t have to sit this out, just saying other people can voice their opinions/concerns as well. I’m receptive to feedback folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 2018-02-27 at 8:00 PM, TheSwede said: Looks great however I still want a helmet with the crossed blasters. Still the helmet thing, everything else is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themaninthesuitcase[Admin] Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Not overly keen on the blue border, I'd probably go with gold frame and keeping the writing silver for all EIB awards. The 5 clusters above look messy, looks much better on the ribbons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 14 hours ago, TheSwede said: Still the helmet thing, everything else is I'll give it a try if time permits, I personally prefer the beret flash as it's simplified and at these smaller sizes I prefer it that way (also FO TK inclusion)... but worth looking into. Thanks Daniel. @themaninthesuitcase I've removed the gold text option as I agree, blue border is more consistent but doesn't have as much "wow" factor. I'll let Paul and co. decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, Harbinger said: also FO TK inclusion)... Was thinking the half/half version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted March 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) That too. Edited March 2, 2018 by Harbinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukswrath[Staff] Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 4:26 PM, Harbinger said: Okay, now that everything has had at least one pass, here's a quick mockup of how all the new stuff would look. I'll be using Ukswrath as a real-world example since he has most of these awards (hope you don't mind, Tony!): Not at all, as a matter of fact I'm late to another party as usual, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daetrin[Admin] Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 16 hours ago, Harbinger said: I'll give it a try if time permits, I personally prefer the beret flash as it's simplified and at these smaller sizes I prefer it that way (also FO TK inclusion)... but worth looking into. Thanks Daniel. @themaninthesuitcase I've removed the gold text option as I agree, blue border is more consistent but doesn't have as much "wow" factor. I'll let Paul and co. decide. How about black or white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 On 2/21/2018 at 10:32 PM, Daetrin said: The ribbons in theory should be square, but I think the slightly round looks better on a computer screen and adds depth. This. If I had chimed in before Paul, this is exactly what I would have said. LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Okay... Fully caught up. I have two points, more for consideration and discussion than anything else really: 1. Only military unit awards have the frames. Individual awards do not. Having said that, the frames are sharp looking, and Ooooooh, Shiny! 2. Where we have EIB/Centurion under the awards, perhaps put an Imperial Cog on the left and a FO Cog on the right. We are trying to ensure that both are represented, and there are indeed EIB/Centurion awards available for both sets of costumes. Ensuring that both are there provides one award for EIB, and one for Centurion, instead of the two that will inevitably be asked for when more FO troopers begin earning their awards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukswrath[Staff] Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 For the record and off topic great to see you back Tim 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted March 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dark CMF said: Okay... Fully caught up. I have two points, more for consideration and discussion than anything else really: 1. Only military unit awards have the frames. Individual awards do not. Having said that, the frames are sharp looking, and Ooooooh, Shiny! 2. Where we have EIB/Centurion under the awards, perhaps put an Imperial Cog on the left and a FO Cog on the right. We are trying to ensure that both are represented, and there are indeed EIB/Centurion awards available for both sets of costumes. Ensuring that both are there provides one award for EIB, and one for Centurion, instead of the two that will inevitably be asked for when more FO troopers begin earning their awards. Hey Tim and thanks for the feedback: 1. Seeing as we are a fake space military I think its okay to veer from actual protocol on that, maybe? 2. I did a both version it would just need to be cleaned up: Edited March 2, 2018 by Harbinger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 I would remove the background from the first order cog, example below 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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