JoeR Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I've been told by CAP that the ROTJ helmets were recast off of one of the ANH helmets that CAP pulled and sent to TE. Wouldn't surprise me, the traps are all wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FON Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Thats not correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-7980 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Could you go into more detail please, FON? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Jax Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've been told by CAP that the ROTJ helmets were recast off of one of the ANH helmets that CAP pulled and sent to TE. Yeah THERE'S a reliable source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Trooper Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Yeah THERE'S a reliable source. Many say the exact same about TE I would like to see this discussed. But alas we all know many will just get too heated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKCaleb Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 that's a tough one to sell. I too would like to see where this goes just for the fun of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FON Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Have a look under the chin/mictip areas.. no cap is pushed n/warped like that. Its a ROTJ feature. Its the same on the first TE ROTJ, as it should be, because its from the FIRST TE ROTJ. I own one of the ealier models, and its no spring chicken. It is quite apparent the new one comes from it. The same problems have carried over to the new version. The only difference is; is that the new face has been sharpened. Which IMO makes it look more correct, to how it actually was (save for the chin/vocoder which now looks too sharp). Anyway, the orginal TE ROTJ helmet had its moulding issues all the same, and they have come through on this one aswell. And as for the back cap, its from a TE ROT aswell. Same strange profile shape as the old version... sit it next to a cap/or TE ANH and its completely different in its curvature. Thats about the most basic way of saying... ITS NOT FROM A CAP. Although I'm sure there will be those that will believe him regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeR Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 It looks nothing like either of my sets of Jedi moulds. The traps are significantly smaller on this helmet, were talking cm's. I agree that cap is hardly reliable as a source of information. Unlikely either party can prove their position without going back in time. Edit: I am not interested in dissing anyone, especially TE. My point is that my moulds of the background helmet are different to my newer moulds from the unfinished helmet, and these are totally different from the new TE ROTJ helmet. I am interested in how many moulds were used for the Jedi helmets. What would make more sense is whoever moulded Matt's Jedi helmet, created a huge amount of shrinkage when copying it, which would account for the difference in the traps. I would like to see Gino's Jedi moulds too, but this is doubtful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 It looks nothing like either of my sets of Jedi moulds. The traps are significantly smaller on this helmet, were talking cm's. I agree that cap is hardly reliable as a source of information. Unlikely either party can prove their position without going back in time. Edit: I am not interested in dissing anyone, especially TE. My point is that my moulds of the background helmet are different to my newer moulds from the unfinished helmet, and these are totally different from the new TE ROTJ helmet. I am interested in how many moulds were used for the Jedi helmets. What would make more sense is whoever moulded Matt's Jedi helmet, created a huge amount of shrinkage when copying it, which would account for the difference in the traps. I would like to see Gino's Jedi moulds too, but this is doubtful! I think Gino's Jedi molds came from TE, so they would be the same unless he's reworked them. Keith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FON Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Yes, whatever the issues are regarding differences to your moulds Joe - all stem back to how Matts ROTJ was moulded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 These new TE helmets are simply recasts of his old ROTJ helmets he made ten years ago. They both share all the same discrepancies though these new ones have been sharpened up more. They are all assembled badly too IMO. Definately not CAP originated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCG Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I do have two of the new TE ROTJ helmets and I would love to have one of the old ones produced ten years ago to compare. Yes, the molds have been reworked to be sharper in detail, Matt never denied that. One of my helmets is way sharper(hero) than the other(background) and can be see in the pics I posted in this forum. Sorry to disagree Paul but at least in mines(ABS version) one thing is certain, the assembly is spot on. Also the details that Fon pointed out under the area of the mics makes sense 100%, I noticed about that in many of the pics that Mike(TK-4510) posted in this forum. Cheers A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Sorry to disagree Paul but at least in mines(ABS version) one thing is certain, the assembly is spot on. Not compared to an on screen ROTJ it isn't, it's way off. The actual assembly may good, it's the positioning of the face that's off on these TE's but, I doubt that can be rectified given the shape of helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-7980 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Don't shoot the messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCG Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usul45 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 These new TE helmets are simply recasts of his old ROTJ helmets he made ten years ago. They both share all the same discrepancies though these new ones have been sharpened up more. They are all assembled badly too IMO. Definately not CAP originated. Now here I can attest to workmanship. I purchased two helmets from Matt and they were both crap. They were thrown together at the last minute and I had to actually tear one apart and completely rework it to even get it close to looking good. And I'm nowhere near done. I can show photos of his "workmanship" If you want to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCG Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Now here I can attest to workmanship. I purchased two helmets from Matt and they were both crap. They were thrown together at the last minute and I had to actually tear one apart and completely rework it to even get it close to looking good. And I'm nowhere near done. I can show photos of his "workmanship" If you want to see. I'm sorry to hear that..., I'm very happy with mines to be honest. It will be great if we can see pics of your helmets. I have not seen pictures in depth of all the TE ROTJ helmets in this forum but so far I did not hear complainings regarding the assembling. Cheers A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper Q2[TK] Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I had no problems with my TE ROTJ suit, It is a quality suit. I am sorry you are not happy. I was impressed with my ROTJ helmet and my ANH stunt. I hope you are able to resolve your concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daetrin[Admin] Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 What - no more comments on the build? That's what this thread is about - all others please use the exit door (e.g. new Matt thread) if you want to discuss issues regarding the maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nassik Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I wonder if the helmet's been modified or added to since we last heard of it. Any more armor pieces around or is it still just the helmet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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