greyfox Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Hey there, Im going to build my first doopy's E11 kit soon. I wanted to go to the DIY warehouse to buy some little things before I can start, but I saw that it is not possible to buy E6000 glue in the DIY warehouses in Germany. Before I order online and pay shipping costs and so on I thought its good to ask if there is a alternative to it. Maybe someone has made expierences with that and can help me Thanks in advance! Jens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Jay[TK] Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Hi Jens, you are mentioning a "doopy's" kit. For glueing resin to resin you best use CA glue. In case you build a pipe kit and need to glue your resin parts to other plastics or metal, look for a universal glue and check for the specifications you will need. I completed my first Doopy Doo's full resin build with less than 1ml CA glue. Just be sure to sand for smal gaps between the parts. Hope this helps Edited January 7, 2016 by T-Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfox Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Hi T-Jay, yes this helped a lot, thanks! Its the full resin kit. So just to be clear, I need to go for a normal "Sekundenkleber" I can achieve in every DIY workshop or even supermarket? Edited January 7, 2016 by greyfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazmosis[501st] Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 If using CA glue, it is helpful to get the insta-set that is available. One drop on your glue application will instantly harden it and keep it from running. IT also sets the parts instantly making moving on to your next part that much quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfox Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) I see, thanks for your advise! But isnt it a bad idea for my first time making an E-11 to use CA glue? I mean, I cant correct anything, and it is likely that I dont put everything perfectly in the right place, since its my first time? Edited January 8, 2016 by greyfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Jay[TK] Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Hi T-Jay, yes this helped a lot, thanks! Its the full resin kit. So just to be clear, I need to go for a normal "Sekundenkleber" I can achieve in every DIY workshop or even supermarket? Yep, "Sekundenkleber" is fine. Don't worry about corrections. Do a good research first. This here might help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfox Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Yes, I will definitely stick to this topic! Thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Batman[501st] Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I see, thanks for your advise! But isnt it a bad idea for my first time making an E-11 to use CA glue? I mean, I cant correct anything, and it is likely that I dont put everything perfectly in the right place, since its my first time? (sounds weird but im still on topic) I like that option. I use a 2 part epoxy resin, so I have plenty of time to slide the piece around, get in in the right position. Downside is that you need to tape the piece and wait a long time for it to set before moving onto the next part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfox Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Hm that also sounds good... I will think over it and when I think it will be too difficult with the CA I will try it with epoxy... thanks a lot Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justjoseph63[Staff] Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I'm not sure if it's available there, Jens, but CA glue is also made in a gel form, which gives you a bit more working time before it sets permanently. Liek Steve (Gazmosis) mentioned there are a few spray products that you can use to instantly set it once you get the pieces in place, such as insta set or Zip-Kicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfox Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) I will look out for the CA in gel form, I think I should get in a DIY shop, its definitely a good idea! I will see if I can find some of the insta-set Edited January 8, 2016 by greyfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docraven[501st] Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 You could just get some Slow Zap or other slow setting CA Glue, they are available in most Scale Modeling or Wargaming stores. Or use some fast setting 2 part epoxy, that gives you 2-3 minutes to re-set (Pattex has a good one, but you need to use it quickly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskully Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I just tried devcon 2 part epoxy on my doopy...seemed to work great and set fast. After about 12 hours it simply broke apart with a small amount of pressure and wiggling. It didn't create a bond just hard set and broke away from both peices even with scoring. Am going to have to grind it all down again and will try e6000. And yes it was fresh and well mixed before use. So just an fyi for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtbringer Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Did you wash and sand the resin parts before assembling? Epoxy and CA works great with resin, usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskully Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yup all the above. Even tried mixing larger amounts thinking the epoxy wasn't balanced. Same outcome. On all peices some deep gouges as rough and some fine scratches. Even my pins pulled out with just a little twitching. It just didn't bond for me. Throwing it out there for everyone try it if you want I did a lot of research and chose it for the quick set time since patience isn't one of my strong points. But I hate doing things twice even more. E6000 seems the go to and I will just have to do the long wait for it to set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtbringer Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Sometimes a batch of resin hasn´t mixed properly and "oozes" a long time, sometimes forever. CA needs tigh fitting, as it is gives a strong bond, but is also bad at getting sideway forces (one of the reasons for using pins for attaching parts, the pins shall take the sideway force from the glue). Epoxy is better for that, but it also snaps simetimes if not good reinforced. Additional mechanical reinforcement should be applied if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskully Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yeah I pinned everything. What I noticed is that it didn't bond with the doopy..just hardened. I had very high hopes at the initial results. But this morning It all just crackled and came apart with a some pressure. Which is not acceptable to me. This is just my experience so far. I have the mag receiver glued and screwed in and I haven't checked that yet without the screw. Resin will ooze because it wasn't mixed well enough to be activated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Sv3=[TK] Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yeah I pinned everything. What I noticed is that it didn't bond with the doopy..just hardened. I had very high hopes at the initial results. But this morning It all just crackled and came apart with a some pressure. Which is not acceptable to me. This is just my experience so far. I have the mag receiver glued and screwed in and I haven't checked that yet without the screw. Resin will ooze because it wasn't mixed well enough to be activated.I pinned every parts, drilled holes in the barrel, filled them with green stuff, put CA glue and joined them together... The pins are stuck in there now that the green stuff has cured and the CA glue is the icing on the cake. Tough as nails!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfox Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I used epoxy glue to stick the grip to the tube. So far it works out well, my brother dropped the whole thing once accidentally, but its still on its place and feels rock solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truimphmark[TK] Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Hi jens yes like others have said ca glue good to use the same as epoxy glue good to use 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfox Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 by the way, I have finished it with CA glue and it worked very well For the first thing I ever made, Im quite happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfox Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 by the way, I have finished it with CA glue and it worked very well For the first thing I ever made, Im quite happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman[TK] Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Nice work! Curious, how sturdy are the doopy-doo kits? Are parts likely to crack from normal use (or the occasional drop!), or are they relatively tough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfox Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Thank you! They are solid but I wouldn't drop them. Im not a member of the 501st and I never trooped but if I ever will, I think I will more likely go for a hyperfirm. I think the doopydoos wont survive if you drop it, but I may be mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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