GINO Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Actually, the bump/texture is still there, just not as pronounced as some others we'e seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T*E Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Actually, the bump/texture is still there, just not as pronounced as some others we'e seen. What you are seeing is a ripple texture that sort of does look like a bumpy surface, but it is a by product of vacuum forming with this material. On the inside there is no indication of any bump patterns. So, a texture is dead on the money, but it has nothing to do with the molds. But is a true observation, and a good point Gino! It is more than apparent that this helmet has been made from a mold that was either resurfaced or POSSIBLY another mold was made. Your thoughts? Either way, it is exciting to see this helmet T*E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GINO Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Yes, it is good to see pics of this helmet, and despite our differences, I am glad that you've shared them. I would say that the texture you are seeing is not caused by the hdpe, it is because of the mold. The texture and bumps are there for the same reasons. The texture is pretty specific and has a directional pattern that is identical on every cap/back. Like I said before, some helmets have it more pronounced then others and this one is particularly soft. Getting the HDPE too hot when forming will give an orange peel effect to the surface, but that is not what we are seeing when we are talking about the texture. The texture from overheating is totally different than the texture caused from the mold. One is random, and the other is very, very specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T*E Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Yes, it is good to see pics of this helmet, and despite our differences, I am glad that you've shared them.I would say that the texture you are seeing is not caused by the hdpe, it is because of the mold. The texture and bumps are there for the same reasons. The texture is pretty specific and has a directional pattern that is identical on every cap/back. Like I said before, some helmets have it more pronounced then others and this one is particularly soft. Getting the HDPE too hot when forming will give an orange peel effect to the surface, but that is not what we are seeing when we are talking about the texture. The texture from overheating is totally different than the texture caused from the mold. One is random, and the other is very, very specific. I will say it is a possibility, fair enough? In my forming with the hdpe I have gotten the same pattern every time. The cap and back is severe as you know to form, meaning the height and angle of the form itself. So lines/waves/rippling yes! Bumps, no. I am going to do some more testing of other parts with the material and see what we get, molds almost the same height. I will be able to post some more once I get some work done around here. Wait til you see the chin strap! It is hilarious and total proof that the stunt helmets were rushed out the door! Just a small tidbit of info for now. The red colored material on the inside of the cap and back is a rust colored primer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butah Fett Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Okay then, moving on. Next question, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butah Fett Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Well, as there seems to be no definative answer to the question asked, can we please move on to another question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john danter Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Righto, sorry dude. PM going his way Delete mine if you want? That's cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butah Fett Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Not a problem. Since people insist on constantly derailing this topic, it's been split into another of it's own. Feel free to continue over there or post another trivia question here. Your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daetrin[Admin] Posted April 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 OK, here's a question: in ANH how were the thighs kept in position: A) attached to the cod/ab plate using a belt/garter system C) none of the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK8280 Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Im goin to go out on a limb here and say "C" none of the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-4224[501st] Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 didn?t they use a belt? so my opinion was B think i saw a pic from a trooper laying in the corner with a black belt around the hips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK8280 Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I don't know ...I'm confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john danter Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I want to say belt but SDS makes his suits using a popper attached to the ab plate, so I dunno? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BactaReality Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Gaffer's tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butah Fett Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I'm going with C and saying gaffer's tape as well. They used it for everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Trooper Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Yah, it was a black belt which went around the waist. The thighs had loops which attached to their inside and went on the belt. Then in the later films they discovered it made more sense to connet them to the ab plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargas[501st] Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I don?t think the Gaffer Trooper is the answer... I?d go with the belt system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCKo[501st] Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 it was definatly a belt and here is the picture with a stormtrooper actor sleeping in a corner of a street... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK8280 Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 it was definatly a belt and here is the picture with a stormtrooper actor sleeping in a corner of a street... looks like me after a long night out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daetrin[Admin] Posted April 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 RockCo wins! It was also quoted as using a belt in "The Making of Star Wars". RockCo - you're up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCKo[501st] Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 how many differences are there between the hero and stunt helmets? please name them also... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BactaReality Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 According to MR, none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCKo[501st] Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 i tend to call you a winner, but i?ll give others a try too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-4224[501st] Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 the lenses the face with less teeth the material the bump in the eye the cleaned back and cap and the persons who wears the buckets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BactaReality Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 1.Bubble lenses vs. Flat 2.Ear caps were slightly different due to the no. of pulls from initial stunt helmets to when they pulled the hero's. 3.Single screw on hero ear cap instead of two 4.shorter frown on hero 5.fewer teeth on hero 6.HDPE on stunt vs ABS hero 7.Stunt helmets were painted 8.Neck trim sizing was different, hero had larger opening due to materials flexiblity 9.No bumps on hero 10. Not sure about this one, but I wanna say the hero had stickers, as I know they were using them in ESB and ROTJ. 11. Can't believe I almost forgot to list this one as it's possibly the most important aspect of the Hero version that I like, and that's the lower brow trim. Is this question exclusive to ANH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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