themaninthesuitcase

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I don't recognise it, but it looks like it's based on a cast of a real sterling so maybe you can use the serial number to help you. I don't think it's a Doopy Doo, but it could be I suppose. If so then the Sterling serial is S 21227, the scope serial is 110332.

It's an optional accessory on the TFA CRL : https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_-_First_Order and the TLJ CRL : https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_TLJ

Updated the under suit text to account for it being textured, roughly based on the R1 text.

Hard to argue with that image. You can clearly see the gap. I don't agree on a third panel though. On the shot from the rear left above, you can see the fabric is folded at the top, and then opens up towards the bottom. Actually it's easier to see if you crank the exposure even further, though this is the limit of any detail. In some images that line is a really solid line and well defined, like the one you have posted. In others like above, it's much softer. I wonder if this just come down to how much use the costume had at any one scene and a clean pressed line slowly falling out with use.

I take back what I just said, that will teach me to post from memory. Thats the front. You can see the front point I mentioned, with a border to give it a clean finished appearance. Looking now with it fresh what I notice is I can see the thigh armour. If it was a full wrap of skirt you wouldn't be able to. And I think I can just make out the ribbing in the under suit so it's not caught behind. As for the rear I've tried to highlight the edge in red, and the pleats in blue. I cannot see a split that would indicate an overlap. What I can see is one continuous edge, where the pleats have come open at the bottom edge. It also all stops at the hip, so not a skirt. Seems I was seeing things that where not there last night. This would mean we end up at something like this: Rear half skirt, hip to hip, 2 pleats to form a centre panel in the back. Ends mid knee. Width of that section is 50-55%% of the width of the raised section on the back plate. Front tabard with a pointed tip, measured at 110º, ends mid thigh. Trim in matching fabric to the body of the tabard. 2 leather "flags" with red trim. That red trim is brighter that the rear half skirt. 2 hip pads with vertical diamond quilting , same red trim as the front flags. Could be leather like the front, could also be the same material as the half skirt. The promo image makes it look like it could even be a 3rd material as the colour and how reflective it is doesn't match the leather its next to, the trim around it or the tabard material next to it. I don't think thats down to lighting. I would say the half skirt and the tabard are the same material.

The first image to me shows clearly that section is not separate. And looking again today I think it also shows that the bottom edge continues past the end of the right “edge” which to me says pleat, which when combined with the front view, sorry forgot to post that last night and my wife is on the computer, which shows the same fabric around the front. At this point in am convinced the bottom layer is a full skirt, with the rear detail formed by 2 pleats. Then the rest is all layered over this. This is all cobblers, ignore it.

Looking zoomed in to the promo image, the waist band and front panels are defiantly leather. The red border trim matches the trim on the hips. The hip panels do not appear to be leather but harder to tell. The backing behind the 2 front panels looks fabric, something like a raw silk or taffeta maybe. To get that nice clean fold on the back I doubt it would be leather as the drape is worng. I can also see a bit of a point at the front in the promo. So this makes me think it's less of a Kama more of a skirt, with the two front leather "flags", leather wrap and then a padded panel on the hips.

Also looking at that promo image we would want to add the ribbed texture to the under suit, either at level 2 or 3. The neck section is black with matching texture, https://i.imgur.com/BxLg18K.png this confirms black to me. The neck seal texture would be a level 2/3 thing for me.

That image looks confirm that there is a pleat at least on the left side, creating a sort of raised panel. You can see the bottom edge is continuous. Still can't see the right side clearly, but IMO looking at the next image, both sides appear to match which would imply a second pleat rather than 2 panels over lapping. To have a pleat on one side and then an overlap on the other feels like a strange aesthetic choice. Gloves, they are just leather gloves. Not R1 style. See this promo image There is no padding, or the detail on the index finger.

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Kama first pass done. The references are "not amazing" due to being very dark, and lightening them can't bring back detail that wasn't there because of that. I think only the hips are quilted, in a diamond pattern, and all the rest are plain padded panels. I also can't find a good rear angle from the left to confirm that it is actually 2 panels overlapped, some images hint it could be 1 panel with a 2 pleats to get a raised centre section. I also made a couple of minor tweaks to the belt as I was zoomed in and was able to refine. A few specifics are missing like the belt widths but otherwise the bulk done ready for further refinement.

I know Paul well so with that bias in mind, all I can say is the shortages are real and he's been stuffed over more than once by suppliers. That said I'll try bring this to bring this to his attention.

After accidentally changing it to be a burgundy neck seal, the under suit is now updated. For now it's the same as the standard TK one but dark burgundy, but happy for more input on the fabric if we can get some decent reference.

That's an easy change, the images I had to hand where all in bad light. Do we have any better screen reference for the gloves? Whilst those Hot Toys do look Rogue One like, I'd prefer to go with a screen reference.

Some fantastic work here, really good to see one of these closing in on the finishing line. We've been spoilt with kits and vac forms, so seeing the amount of effort going into this is amazing.

Added General Construction Notes, which covers some general things like no 3d print lines, damage and weathering must match the references.

Undersuit added. Edited as I believe the trousers to be black, not burgundy like the top.

Blaster is added, I think the handle grips are white based on this reference image: Also added the neck seal, this will be the default neck seal template. Just the undersuit, belt, Kama and holster to go.

The problem we have is that in Star Wars all the weapons look like real world weapons due to the aesthetic chosen back in the 70s. Whilst that’s changing a bit with other franchises, we’re not carrying phasers. This means you really really need to be aware of who might see this and the conclusions and consequences that may lead to. One thing that’s worth mentioning and probably not overly well known is that in the UK is simply owning an E-11 could potentially be a firearms offence, and so can REALLY land you in hot water if you don’t use some common sense. Due to the appearance it falls under the legislation for a “Replica Imitation Firearm”. Without going too far into it as I am not qualified to do so, the manufacture and possession is illegal without a “reasonable excuse”. This is a nice summary from some one who at least appears to know what they are on about: https://www.askthe.police.uk/faq/?id=587bc863-12db-eb11-bacb-0022483f57c9

No it wouldn't sorry. Things like the cover strips need to be glued on to look right, and a layer of velcro instead, would not only not be up to the job, it would not look right and so not be clearable. This is why glues like E6000 are recommended as if a mistake is made of change required it's a reversible bond than you can remove and re do.

Gloves section added.