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Looking positively AMAZING, Jesse!! Keep at it, loving it so far, and can't wait to see it completed, in spite of the awesome ride!

Once you have earned the distinction of EIB or Centurion, those titles are yours, as long as you own that costume. If you sell it to someone else, the title does not transfer. As mentioned above, if you are a Centurion, and retire, or go to an inactive status, you will have to submit that costume for basic level approval under the CRL that is current at the time of application. If there have been drastic changes to said CRL, you will have to upgrade to meet standards. The same applies for EIB and Centurion. You would need to resubmit the costume under the current standards for consideration.

At the end of the day, it is a simple matter of what do you want to achieve with your costume? If your goal is to join the 501st as a Stormtrooper variant, you must make the decision as to which one you want to replicate, and follow that particular CRL. If however, you choose to build a screen accurate (and for the record, Legion TKs aren’t really screen accurate, as mentioned above, too many variables) Stormtrooper for your own personal enjoyment whether that is for display purposes, or for a Halloween costume, or whatever you choose to do with it, then pick one on screen, and knock yourself out. People here will support you and help you as best as they can, but in order to do so you have to say up front what it is that you are doing, so that they know what type of help and which references they should use to offer their help. You will find no shortage of experts here. There are experts in screen built/used costumes who will definitely chime in should you say that you’re building one for a replica for display purposes. They’ll be able to tell you exactly which type of snaps were used in various connections even. Far more numerous are experts in the costume requirements for joining the 501st Legion, who will be happy to assist you in either endeavor with a positive attitude and support. Please recognize the difference in who is making Which comments, and apply their advice as it suits your needs. There is no need for bullying, bashing, or putting down of either group, as each has gleaned their individual expertise by their own merits, and each can offer you advice that is tailored to helping you achieve your goals. Regardless of your intended purpose, I wish you the best of luck with your build!

Heh... well, there is my profile picture I suppose. I think I have something, let me have a look... (Thanks, Aaron, for your service, and for the thread!) Profile picture it is. LoL

Bryce, When I installed mine, there were a few things that I found helped. First was that I turned the volume up until I just barely heard the squeal when my head was not in the bucket. When I put it on, I found that it was just about the perfect volume so that with my head in the bucket, it worked perfectly. If that isn't enough, then yes, looking at your pictures, I'd say that a physical barrier between the speakers and the microphone would likely help. I have my fan batteries directly in front of my speakers and that makes a world of difference. I originally had the speakers in front of the batteries, and it was almost impossible to stop the squeal. I switched the two and that was the perfect solution. So, try some foam, as you mentioned, and see if that makes a difference. I suspect that a 2x3" foam block in front of each speaker will solve the issue for you.

What is your TKID?

Many heartfelt congratulations, Tino! It has indeed been an adventure for you - as it really is for most of us, but many here are more intimately familiar with your journey due to the route that it took. I could not be happier to welcome anyone to the Legion, and specifically to the FISD's TK ranks. As non-members go, you have already made an amazing impact here, and I am sure that that will only continue now that you are officially a Stormtrooper. Your attention to detail leads me to believe that both Tony and Andrew will be very happy to see your EIB and Centurion Applications come through, with the expectation that it will not require much hard work for either of them. Again, congratulations, and know that all of us here are happy that you took this step, and cannot wait for you to make the next steps. We all know that the results will be phenomenal. Welcome aboard, my friend!

Amazing start! Your attention to detail and next level of clean-up on the kit are going to make for a very special piece when you finally complete it. I will be following your progress. Stupendous work so far, and I love your take no prisoners approach. There are - as I love to tell people getting into this hobby - very, very, very few things that you do, that cannot be undone, and nearly all of those are driven by removing too much material. Your use of the green stuff to make those small repairs should help a lot of other new builders in the future to realize this. Keep at it!!

The responses so far are indeed awesome, and also - just because I want to throw this out there - what a great idea this contest is! We all know what this means to us as individuals, and we all take part in the spirit of giving and sharing of ourselves in some way because we are here. That speaks for itself. How awesome is it to share this with each other? It has already been mentioned a few times, but what is more iconic or awesome than Stormtroopers? Keep them coming everyone!!

I am mostly certain that within the last week, WTF announced that a Rebels TK kit will be available soon. Might be important to ensure that he is aware of this thread, if he intends to sell them to prospective members, lest the option wind up nothing like the CRL that is being worked here so far.

With regard to what to call them, I have a suggestion that may (or may not) be quite simple and easy to implement and avoid confusion. Use Generation 1, 2, 3 etc as successive versions are released. None of us can predict what the future will or will not bring, and using Heavy Weapons Trooper, Generation 1, 2, 3... Allows us to put which armor iteration it comes from in the CRLs description "This costume is based on the character depicted in Star Wars Battlefront II (2009)" or 2017, as applicable. This approach may be as future-proof as we can hope to be right now. If you disagree, then please say so. I've been wrong twice in the past. Also, I'm firmly opposed to going anywhere near an "anything goes" approach to accessories and weapons with our CRLs, simply because the video games allow you to do so in Multiplayer. I believe that we should focus on the equipment that is depicted in the Campaign mode for each costume that we take on, from any of the video games. That is the only part of the games that can actually be referred to as Canon. Otherwise, yes, we will have ROTJ TKs using jump packs and EE-3s, or Lando's Night Sniper pistol. Not a sensible way ahead in my opinion.

So, several of you have inquired about the availability of the "Evolution of a Trooper" shirts that were mentioned by Paul (Daetrin) in this edition of the Newsletter. At the time that the NL was drafted, the shirts were well on their way to production and availability. Alas, they hit a snag in the approval process, which does indeed happen from time to time. They are still being pursued for production, to continue to ensure that the Legion's Stormtroopers are dressed to impress both in costume, and out. We already make everyone else look bad as it is. May as well pour a little salt in those salty wounds. They hate us cause they ain't us. Thank you for understanding, and standby for updates please.

Did you ever make a decision on armor? You definitely received some solid input here. Personally, at just under 6'2" and about 210 and a truly healthy build when I assembled my kit, I found the RT Mod to be a very perfect fit. Almost as if I were the model Rob sculpted it for. It just fit me with minimal trimming. The wait sucked a bit, but was definitely worth it in the long run, as I've been rocking it for longer than I waited to receive it now. Hope to see some traction happening for you soon!

Absolutely not. It is anyone and everyone who likes to use Tapatalk.

http://whitearmor.net/images/newsletter2015/inthisissue.png From the DL From the XO Notable Troops Advanced Tactics Awards, Imperial Attache Outstanding Achievement Award & Master Armorer Award Follow FISD http://whitearmor.net/images/newsletter2015/fromthedetachmentleader.png Greetings Troopers! Just when you thought that the staff was going on holiday for the summer, think again! The FISD staff continue to keep the ball rolling with a slew of new items and updates for you, our most favorite Stormtrooper. Yes, the dark side has cookies, but we have CRL updates, forum updates, program updates, new merch and more. So take a break with your favorite smoothie and let's see what we have in store for you. Packs are on our minds, lots of packs. - The Spack Pack is now part of the ANH Hero CRL, so regardless of which ANH costume you do, you can rock a pack. - The Shock Trooper can now wear a pack as an accessory. Pictures are on their way, but the text has been approved and you are ready to go. Rogue One The Rogue One TK CRL first draft is complete and off to the LMO for review. Pictures are in progress and it should be ready for approval in July. Oh, and did you want dirt with that? Maybe a nice DLT-19? Yes to both! Keep your eyes peeled, it's going live sooner than you think. Rogue One Sandies to MEPD There has been a lot of chatter regarding if the Rogue One sandtroopers, also known as Jedha or Kyber troopers, the ones with the fabric packs, should stay on FISD. However after much discussion, the decision was that MEPD had a strong desire to create a welcoming experience and support of this costume, and so anyone interested in going full Kyber with their Rogue One trooper should log in to MEPD and see how to take their dirtyness to the next level. I think this is a natural fit both for the costume and for our members, and am highly confident that MEPD will do it justice. Forum Upgrades After many years of being a stick in the mud, our current forum software is no longer supported and we are upgrading. This meant a few days downtime for us, but the end result has been worth it. The UI now looks a lot like MEPD & SpecOps which will make being a dual member much easier, and there are a lot of new, convenient features such as being able to drag and drop photos in to a post. Nice, eh? And yes, there is even more goodness in the pipes. New Shirts, ID Badges, and more! The Evolution of a Trooper shirt is back and on sale after many years absence - you'll want one for sure! Also, we have changed vendors for the Celebration shirts so if you missed out you can now get one on demand. FISD ID badges are also on sale (they are super cool!) and after many iterations, a commemorative First Order version of our logo patch. So, check out the latest shirts on offer and be on the lookout for the next coinage & patch runs. Sounds good, so what's next? The First Order CRL is being updated and will soon have paths for Expert Infantry and Centurion levels. This is also true of Captain Phasma who is quite popular in the ranks. Also, the HWT CRLs will be broken out to include newer variants. Both should be done in July. And in case you missed it... - FISD Hockey Jerseys are still on sale. EDIT: Run ended prior to forum upgrades delayed publication of the Newsletter. - We launched the Master Armorer program. Ever help someone go EI? You can get a "win" for it and start racking up points. Think the EI badge is nifty? Check out what we have for builders. Summer is always a big parade season so I'll leave you with a final reminder to DRINK WATER. No one wants to win the dehydrated trooper award. Have a great month! With unquestioned loyalty, Paul TK-8020 "Daetrin" FISD Founder | DL http://whitearmor.net/images/newsletter2015/fromthexo.png If it seems like we just did this, that's because it wasn't all that long ago that we did this... Even though it was indeed not that long ago, it is always a good time to sit down and read even more stuff about Stormtroopers and what our peers in shiny white armor (and the various other types of TK costumes) are doing across the globe, wouldn't you agree? As always, we have a lot of activity happening and some great events and achievements to highlight. The Staff have been busy with a great many things in the background, and there is never a shortage of EIB and Centurion applications or awards to acknowledge. So as the Summer Season Heats up.. Take advantage of the opportunity to get to know your fellow members. Attend barbecues or get-togethers. Most of our world is entering the nice weather that allows for those things, so don't let an opportunity to get to know someone a little bit better pass you by. Also, be sure that you continue to do all of the things that lead to success when trooping - hydrate, maintain your armor, host or attend armor parties and pass along all that you have learned here. Take a new recruit under your wing and lead them to the FISD - and maybe even further to the rolls of Advanced Tactics Award recipients if you are already one yourself. If you're not, no worries, it isn't that difficult to become one. Take up the battle cry and become a part of the March to 1000! You're a TK, you're inherently awesome. Show the world what you can do, and make memories for them that they'll never forget! Be that Stormtrooper that they saw when they were young, the one that changed their lives forever. We Also Need to Acknowledge the Web Team Perhaps you've noticed that things look a little bit different around the Detachment these days. Well, we were due for a forum upgrade, and the supreme web-knowledge guys (the uber-nerd overlords) dug in deep and did their thing. Looks pretty snazzy now - at least I think it does. This is just another of the continuing efforts being pursued by the Staff to improve the Detachment and the experience for you, the members. Obviously, the timing was a bit rough, as this Newsletter should have been published at the height of the upgrades. A little bit of time lost is well worth the results though. One thing that many will be happy about, I'm sure? Well, see for yourself. Be sure to try out the Search feature at the top of the page. Of course, there are growing pains associated with change. The biggest issue that we are seeing at the moment is purely coincidental, and that is the decision by our formerly favorite photo-hosting site (Photobucket) to charge for third-party hosting. As a result, sadly, most of the photos in build threads, and posts from the past are missing in action. Hopefully members will get those threads repaired, but that will be a lot of work for everyone to tackle so we will see what happens. In the meantime, get comfortable with the new setup, and if you find any bugs/glitches/problems - or if you have any good suggestions for improvement, please share them with the Staff. We will be doing the same! You Know What I Think is One of the Best Things About Being a TK? I say it and post it all the time in Star Garrison, and I'm sure that the non-TKs are really tired of it, but that's alright, they hate us cause they ain't us. Anyway, what I say (to pretty much every single new recruit to the Garrison) is this: When it comes to events and costumes, there are never enough TKs, and there are never too many TKs! Being a Stormtrooper doesn't make you cool, but if you are cool, you're probably already a Stormtrooper! Have Fun and Be Safe Out There, Troopers - Take Lots of Pictures and Share Them Here, Too! With Unquestioned Loyalty, Tim Waychoff TK-51878 "Dark CMF" FISD Executive Officer http://whitearmor.net/images/newsletter2015/notabletroops.png Want Your Troop to be Include? Post your troop report in the Field Training Exercises section here http://www.whitearmo...ning-exercises/. Those with troop logs please post a separate troop report as it is easier to link too. RSPCA Million Paws Walk 21st May 2017 http://imageshack.com/a/img923/9141/FfbIe6.jpg More here: http://www.whitearmo...-21st-may-2017/ By: Glen, gmrhodes13, TK85421 Walk A Mile In Her Shoes More here: http://www.whitearmo...s-solo-journey/ By: Teresa, Soulart, TK41307 May the Fourth Rycroft School More here: http://www.whitearmo...der-candidates/ By: Teresa, Soulart, TK41307 HBF Run for a Reason 2017: Imperial Attache Outstanding Achievement Award In order to recognize those who have gone above and beyond the call of duty as members of this program, the FISD would like to announce a new accolade: The Attache Outstanding Achievement Award ribbon. This distinction will go to those who are not only consistently assisting present Troopers, but helping future Troopers on their white armor journey as well. This includes greeting first-time posters, offering advice and guidance, assisting with EIB and Centurion levels and staying active on the FISD and/or their local boards. Recipients are considered on the basis of a combination of those contributions and been an Attache for at least one full year. For those of you not familiar with the program, the Imperial Attaches are the ones that are on the "front-lines", using their knowledge and experience by helping out in various areas and contributing to the betterment of the FISD and 501st Legion. If you are interested in joining the program or would like more information, I have provided a link below. Below are the Troopers who will be receiving the award : 1. Randy (magni) NEG Attache- Is always in the forefront of providing great information, greeting new folks and assisting future and approved TKs with advice and guidance. 2. Allan (allan1313) ECG Attache- Also a mainstay here and one of our best I.A.s by far, he exemplifies the "Troopers helping Troopers" motto. 3. Tony (ukswrath) GGG Attache- In addition to serving as one of our D.O.s and helping folks on a daily basis, Tony's build threads have been viewed over half a million times! With over 8,000 posts to his credit, his contributions to the FISD are legendary. 4. Andrew (Sly11) Redback Garrison Attache- The "Wonder from Down Under" is also one of our D.O.s, and his knowledge of armor is simply amazing. His white armor wisdom and sage advice have helped countless Troopers become members of the 501st and FISD as well as join the ranks of EIB and Centurion. Please join me in congratulating them, and may you continue to serve the FISD, the 501st Legion and the Empire proudly! Attache Program information: http://www.whitearmo...ttaché-program/ With Unquestioned Loyalty, Joseph Pedigo TK-10963 "justjoseph63" FISD Amabassador http://whitearmor.net/images/newsletter2015/advancedtactics.png This month the 1st Imperial Stormtrooper Detachment would like to congratulate: Expert Infantry Badge Award: Will Humphies "willatfisd" TK 10064 EIB 727 Logan Lange "Logann_Blueline" TK 50911 EIB 728 Telmo Aparicio "Thrawn78" TK 50678 EIB 729 Joshua Hitt "hittman" TK 11051 EIB 730 John Cambra "johnbc21872" EIB 731 We are aiming to hit the 1000 mark for EIBs this year, and thanks to you we are getting close fast! Centurion Award: http://www.whitearmor.net/eib/centurion_badge.png Brian Vetter "vettereddie" TK 75053 (Centurion 334) Stephen Bauchan "GoofySGB" TK 17081 (Centurion 336) Roy Owen "rjowenuk" TK 91055 (Centurion 337) Will Humphries "willatfisd" (Centurion 338) Great job on reaching Centurion! If you see any of these Troopers around your Garrison or Squad, be sure to congratulate them! With Unquestioned Loyalty, Joseph Pedigo TK-10963 "justjoseph63" FISD Amabassador http://whitearmor.net/images/newsletter2015/followfisd.png Don't Forget We're on Facebook and Twitter! Facebook: www.facebook.com/whitearmor If you're on FB, stop by and say hi, ask questions, and share stories! Twitter: www.twitter.com/FISD501st or @FISD501st follow FISD on Twitter! Instagram: www.instagram.com/501stfisd With Unquestioned Loyalty, Tim Waychoff TK-51878 "Dark CMF" FISD Executive Officer On behalf of the 1st Imperial Stormtrooper Detachment Command Staff and the Imperial Propaganda Department, <End Transmission>

As Mathias has said, it is fully acceptable to have them built that way. My own kit (built by me) is built that way because I wanted to use the original strapping brackets where I could but did not have enough return edge on some of the parts. As you can see above, it was that way on many of the screen-used kits, and as you can see below (in my signature), it can be approved for higher levels here at the Detachment also.

Ugh... I'd thought that this was managed when it went green, but clearly not. We'll get it addressed in short order, for the First Order.

The same argument was pitched about the FISD just a couple of years ago when The Force Awakens gave us The First Order Stormtrooper instead of the Imperial Stormtrooper. The history and traditions of the Legion and the Saga itself were cited specifically when choosing not to pursue a change in name for this Detachment.

I think that this right here, is way more profound than a lot of people are going to give it credit for being, and really makes a strong argument for the distinction of what separates TDs from TKs. Thank you for this. For the duration of my time here, it (separation of TK vs TD) has been largely based upon (in my opinion) rhetoric. Statements like "They think that just slapping a pack on a TK makes it a TD? They can't measure up to what it takes to be a TD, better class of Soldier" or "So, they don't care to clean their armor? That makes them a different class of character?" have been far too common and divisive. They don't define anything outside of egos, and they don't present any answers to the questions or acknowledge the history behind the characters or the MEPD, both of which are worthy of the distinction and admiration that they have earned.

The biggest problem with using the official books and/or merchandise is that as tightly as LFL has managed to get the continuity across the different media, in many situations, the official books contradict themselves by use of language. The Shoretrooper is a perfect example of this. For every situation where they clearly define things (like the Kyber pack vs the Sandtrooper pack) there are four more that are Shoretrooper-like in nature. It just makes them very difficult to use as an "automatic" resource. Discussions between the leadership and members of the Detachments interested in drafting, adopting, and managing the CRLs is the best possibly avenue for definitive resolution, regardless of sources being cited or used to make the determination. I'd say that we're on a good course here with this one.

Devil's (and TK) advocate here, and I am not by any means opposed to working with the other Detachments (especially for the betterment of the Legion), but that same guide that references Sandtroopers on Jedha also plainly indicates that the Kyber collection pack was worn by Stormtroopers and shows the Patrol pack or the "HWT looking pack" being worn by the ones referred to as Sandtroopers. It was documented in discussion here at FISD back in December/January: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/39955-jedha-sandtroopers/

Absolutely an honor to be involved that morning. Who needs to be in the Legion photo anyway, when there is Stormtrooper work to be done, amiright??? Armor looks spot-on, and your pit crew definitely took good care of you! For those of you who were not there, let me tell you that his excitement, nervousness, and giddiness that he speaks of were absolutely 100% genuine and on display. Founder, DL, blah, blah, blah... Paul is very clearly, and in every way, one of us, and he was adamant that he needed to get this done and do it just like everyone else. I'll follow him into galactic battle any day. Congratulations, boss!!

Here is the discussion that was running back in December. It is the Kyber pack that is a Stormtrooper accessory per the "Art of Rogue One" book.. http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/39955-jedha-sandtroopers/

There are indeed two different packs floating out there. The pack that Shawn mentions above has also been referred to as the Patrol pack, if I recall properly. I concur that he Kyber pack is more of an HWT/TK Accessory by nature and the Patrol/Sandtrooper pack is the only possible loadout from the Rogue One lineup that could or should be considered a Sandtrooper. We certainly didn't create the MEPD based on an accessorized costume, so we can't really be accountable now for uniformity and accessories eliminating the one-offs of the past.