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I remembered I had some smaller clamps that would work great for the biceps, so I borrowed some magnets from the thigh, while it was still curing, and I glued the biceps. I also was trying to plan ahead and figure out how to best apply the gaffer’s tape behind the front shin pill holes, which are partially backed by the glue surface on the rear shin when they are overlapped (didn’t get a picture of this unfortunately). So I decided to do a little cutout on the rear shin so I would be able to easily apply the gaffer’s tape. Rear shin with cutout: Final look (not glued yet):

Actually, it's just a whole lot of green and not noticing anything in front of your feet. Anyone else excited to see more of these guys?

Aside from the fact there has been a massive hole left from what anovos did to so many with First order armour, KB being very hit and miss with supply and members waiting lengthy times this is the obvious reason we haven't had as many FO TK's full stop. All we have done with the FO CRL's is add better images and the correct shaped parts, armour is always first weapons as no basic requirement are second and we only just added a more accurate version. Again we aren't looking at the Hinze 57 varieties that have appeared, we were looking for some discerning differences, so again as I mentioned above this will be done properly, not on a whim.

Currently the CRL is the CRL, so if its not met, not that this actually has any bearing on the application because Ardeshirs is already approved with this costume to those levels,nothing will happen with CRL changes or continued discussions until after elections. I am currently updating the members database which for a Det our size is a formidable task, so i wont be putting time into to this right now unfortunately. Let me just say, we try to keep CRL's clear and easy, not just for members but also for GML's, and DCA's, We will not be making any multiple versions with more confusing elements without a full membership poll on things like this, and then we will evaluate the results and consider a direction to take. The word of the CRL is not an issue raised by anyone currently building because they simply build to the CRL. This is only under discussion because we are looking at or questioning the current CRL so there is no problem here as far as I and no doubt many many others see it.

Unfortunately this rear area is based on the TFA Finn (or stunt), for some reason Anovos changed this from the Alpah/Beta/Charlie armor sets, if they left it the way it was they would have been fine. You are correct on the curve for TLJ, the CRL image although updated still is not 100%, but best that was available at the time You may be able to add some ABS paste, sand an polish to get rid of those trim lines. The other areas which will need ABS paste or filler will be you Ab/Kidney joins and also the Chest/Yoke connection. Many have used bondo for some of the join areas much like the A/B/C kits and paint the full kit, but others use ABS paste so they don't have to paint, just depends how clean you can make it. For base approval it's entirely up to your GML, they may know there's a difference and pick on it but they may not, I'd suggest reaching out and asking their thoughts.

We do strive for movei accurate but not prop replication, that has never been the goal of the Legion or many detachments. MEPD are the onlu ones I know of that have a level that isolates a particular trooper and you have to built it exact to that . We have always had a standardised model to get as many looking and representing the same features as possible. this isn't something new and still holds well legion wide. We don't have a prop replication level. I even tried to bring up the subject of an additional level for FISD that did go that far but it was met with a resounding silence and no support. It was pretty clear it wasn't something wanted. I think we should still focus on the most commonly seen elements for weapons, if that means some features are well represented and that creates a variation then that should be a discussion point for consideration. What doesn't seem right is a variation seen only once on screen as an example, and I think it is probably more confusing trying to build CRL's with every variation possible seen on screen, that doesn't serve anyone well. How about we tally up the number of times you see each variation on screen for TLJ and separately for TroS, it seems both films have different clear set ups. The variations that are seen most would be the ones that go into Polls to give us a better idea what path to take. If that shows 2 main variants above the one timers then that makes sense that they would be commonly seen. Perhaps we take stunt weapons out of the equation because we know they use different materials and are meant generally for safety so can omit certain features are cant use some materials. The Hero weapons are what we should aim for. Lets see what kind of outcomes surface from that kind of deep dive.

Here it is with the butt plate. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

Can never have enough magnets, clamps or tape when you are on a roll

Andrew I agree with everything you said. Absolutely agree. But it still doesn’t address a few small issues. It’s not even a huge deal to me. Not at all. I absolutely agree in the CRL. But if the crl is wrong or limited or just incomplete it should not deligitimise a build. And if substantial sources are shown and clearly visible and show that it is not an anomaly but an actual substance and a tangible substance in the movie, then not only should Grace be applied but also part of the process. When it is not, it comes across as either nit picky, being unnecessary barriers, or just straight out as stated by some jealousy or restrictive measures to stop advancement. I believe in the CRL 100 percent. But the crl needs to believe in the build as well. It’s not about compromising the standards to keep someone happy. Not at all and even basic in my opinion should be a tiny bit more strict. But rather it’s allowing the crl to breathe and be slightly open and evolving to a living standard when and only when it is substantiated and not compromising the quality of rhe build. Once again, me, who absolutely respects not only the crl but also the FISD teams that govern it, and have always followed the guidance and standards and have always complied respectfully; have you wondered why one simple Tiny D-Ring has become a principle I am standing on? It’s easy to remove, paint and put back on or just have one that’s painted and put it on and take it off again. Why? Because I forsee other issues arising if this isn’t governed with some reason or logic that is strictly my opinion. It has to be something that has logic and reason that can be applied across the board. Not I decided this is acceptable and this is not. They will not sit with many. Next it will be the shape of the ring then the rear site and so in and so on. That’s why I clearly showed a blaster with a ring that is shaped like mine but white. at some point it will come across as someone just arm chair quarterbacking something base in “Meet MY guidelines” and not Star Wars. we did this to be the most accurate costume group in the world. Not cosplay not some fly by night thing. We are a Star Wars costume group that takes pride in having movie accurate wardrobe, armor, costumes and props. this goes against it. It say nope here nope there nope nope nope based on an opinion and not a fact or a clear cut goal. we strive for movie accurate costumes that have tiers of accuracy. tier one is movie accurate tier two is more accurate tier three is dead on accurate but most of us modify and make them BETTER than movie accurate. That’s FISD and hell yea brothers and sisters. in the middle of that I just say, it sometimes come across offensive to members for someone to say, nope you don’t get that option or nope that doesn’t look right to me. That’s wrong because if that’s the case then buddy types need to be taken in to consideration. Just like they do for rhe movies. And in my opinion that is correct for the movies and absolutely wrong for us. Absolutely wrong. so a D-Rng that I am putting my foot down on is very simple but it says, why, why is something that is clearly not an anomaly, clearly a large and I mean a large part of the movie, just randomly being excluded. now someone is gonna make me spend even more and more and more money to make something that is not even relevant an issue. It’s not a red ring, it’s not a huge hoop and it’s not fabricated out of no where because I want it. It’s a hard hard hard visible fact. I’m sorry but I think this needs to be made clear. FISD is awesome and the team is awesome. I just have warning lights that are telling me we may be going down a path like re-enactors do where one hyper opinionated way of thinking or people or path is taken which is completely detached from not only the actual mission but the actual guidelines. my opinion and anyone else’s opinion here or anywhere in the 501st is subordinate to what Star Wars has shown us. It’s as simple as that. thank you guys again and I post this with utmost respect and tone of voice. Much love for this group and its goal. If there is an opinion that the ring is wrong, then it is my opinion and right to say, that opinion is wrong. with respect Ardeshir

Hello Matthew, While its not really possible to do a full pre-approval review until you post the photos of you wearing the armor there is one thing I noticed. You mentioned that you are aiming for Centurion level out the gate. For Level II (and Level III) approval your boots cannot have a seam on the front of the boot. From the CRL: OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): There is no seam present on the front of the boot. Boots have a black sole If you're looking to apply for EIB and Centurion upon Basic approval you will have to replace the boots for ones without seams. Nice work with the photos of your armor! I look forward to seeing you all suited up!

Thanks for calling me out, using the word "competition" might have been the wrong choice due to the different connotations in German and English. Um... "encouraging each other to post more memes based on friendly ribbing and markers regarding the current post/meme count"? I don't know how to word this Again, no policing from my side, just wanted to mention that I prefer to see FISD-relevant memes in this thread over generic Star Wars memes. Thanks for your input, I'd love to hear what others think as well (in this thread, perhaps accompanied by at least one meme? ). No burning anyone, otherwise we'd loose all interactions on here, lol It's just that Star Wars memes in general have a lot of spaces online (especially on Reddit), so I like having a FISD Meme Space just for us TKs

A poll could be a good idea although I think the first proposal is suuuper badasss!! [emoji41]

Can't believe I'm going to be serious for once Hey guys, here's a quick reminder that this was intended by me to be an FISD Meme Thread. Now, I certainly enjoy all the general Star Wars Memes that I've seen in this thread recently, don't get me wrong, but in my mind they're a better fit for general meme threads. r/prequelmemes instead of FISD Memes. Now, I'm not a dictator, I'm not gonna say which memes are okay for this thread and even if I had the power to edit posts, I wouldn't go ahead and delete the ones I don't like. So, instead, here's what I imagined this thread to be for: I thought we would post memes about the FISD, recent happenings on here, our members, relationships and interactions with each other. Memes about trooping and building a TK. Advice, critique, encouragement for each other and our armors. Memes for and about our Detachment and Stormtroopers, which is certainly what we all expected from this thread. Especially with the recent drive and competition to post the most memes in this thread, I can't help but feel that the original purpose has been derailed. Please, please, do not take this as me saying I don't like the new memes. Don't take this as me being a boring stick in the mud, trying to enforce my own rules in this thread. I wanted to share my opinion on this, as I think that we can stick closer to the FISD Memes. Thank you

Huge +1s to both Ardeshir and Justin on this one. These are clearly screen-visible variants. These aren't malfunctions or gaffer tape incidents. These are variants. It would be wonderful if the CRLs allowed for these.