TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Hey hey! Been a while since I've been here. I've got a new costume in the works, but after looking at the forums.... I wasn't quite sure where to put it. I'm planning to build the Heavy Stormtrooper from Battlefront 2, but nobody's made one yet and so there's no relevant forum sadly. Well, on to the details and pictures! I love the look of the heavy Stormtrooper, and the backpack is great, plus I like the black pauldrons and big guns.... so I looked and found there isn't a CRL for one yet, so I'm taking the plunge to build the first one! I've been talking to Dave's Darkside Depot for the armor, I've already got stuff in hand, I'll have to build the backpack. Helmet: DDD Armor: DDD Neckseal: I don't remember, got it off Etsy in.... 2018? (in hand) Pauldron: Trooperbay black pauldron (in hand) Body suit: Scuba black body suit (in hand) Boots: TKBoots (an original pair!) Gloves: Imperial Boots/KeepTrooping (in hand) Next post is the research post! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) Research and reference pics! (This will be updated) Initial notes: Helmet appears to be ANH/ESB proportioned but with ROTJ paint and ROTJ ear caps AB plate has only 4 buttons colored, fifth is left white Gloves are Rogue One TK gloves Armor is ROTJ armor Traditional belt drop boxes, not MP40 pouches like the original HWT Only one MP40 pouch on entire outfit Backpack is completely new and has visible straps Pauldron is black, not orange Shoe soles are either dark yellow or dark gray No holster is worn Thermal detonator is worn Edited January 28 by TheLoneRanger 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRascalKing[TK] Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 I love it and support your efforts! Looks like there is plenty of reference to compare to and warrant a new ROTJ-based Heavy CRL. Good luck and keep us posted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revlimiter[Staff] Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Fantastic reference shots and a very cool build idea! I hope it pans out and we get a new CRL out of this. Bravo for taking it on! The backpack looks quite Sandy-based to me with the little radar dish, toilet plunger thing, and other parts. Is the hose the same CPAP one that Cad Bane uses? Might be worth looking into anyway. The MP40 pouch looks quite non-leather with the ribbing going on. That's pretty awesome because at least currently, the canvas ones are a lot easier to find than leather. Looks to hang off the shoulder vs being attached to the pauldron, which is nice for movement and visibility. The one on my HWT pauldron can get in the way of my chin at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilheyra[TK] Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 The level of detail of these game reference images is amazing! It's fun looking at the variation in overlaps between the pieces and the impacts left by blaster bolts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) Thanks for the replies guys! The current plan I have due to the helmet is to use an ANH helmet as the base and paint it the proper ROTJ colors. That way the proportions match while the paint does too. I’ll have the fill in the screw recesses on the ears and glue them on, but that’s ezpz after all sorts of animations to make the trooper move and closely watching the belt drop boxes, I have determined the game has nothing attaching them to the belt. They’re just freely floating close to the belt. So.. a creative liberty taken there, and I’ll use the traditional white fabric strips to attach them. Edited January 28 by TheLoneRanger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilheyra[TK] Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Is it just me, or is that thermal detonator shorter in length that the standard ROTJ trooper? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 21 minutes ago, Tilheyra said: Is it just me, or is that thermal detonator shorter in length that the standard ROTJ trooper? You’re right! It is! I went in game and looked and it is definitely shorter! I also noticed the belt is unique. It’s the standard TK belt, but it doesn’t have the three squares attached between the boxes. And the drop boxes themselves *are Rogue One drop boxes.* Rogue One belt ROTJ belt’s it’s like for the game, they mashed up a R1 belt with a ROTJ belt, and just said whatever about the detonator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revlimiter[Staff] Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 The det is very much the ANH/ESB style one, just squished down in terms of width. The button on the ROTJ is quite different as is the panel below it. And yeah, totally R1 drop boxes on that belt. Long and skinny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, TheLoneRanger said: You will find many items may be the same as other game versions, like the belt TKC has no center button cover as well as Death trooper, Shock , Incinerator One thing to watch is the ab plate, it may take a little work to be game accurate, note the ab plate looks molded (this came up recently in command in regards to incorrect ROTJ ab plate details) it also has the border (molded area) around the ab plate ROTJ CRL has this image showing separate ab plate and border For ROTJ it should be like these which is still different from the BF2 CFO armor no raised area around the large ab plate just like references Note the game version Shock trooper is also wrong in the CRL but the game reference has this sane border (molded area) CRL image separate Reference ANH would be better suited for this build with rotated large ab plate Looking forward to seeing this build progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, gmrhodes13 said: You will find many items may be the same as other game versions, like the belt TKC has no center button cover as well as Death trooper, Shock , Incinerator One thing to watch is the ab plate, it may take a little work to be game accurate, note the ab plate looks molded (this came up recently in command in regards to incorrect ROTJ ab plate details) it also has the border (molded area) around the ab plate ROTJ CRL has this image showing separate ab plate and border For ROTJ it should be like these which is still different from the BF2 CFO armor no raised area around the large ab plate just like references Note the game version Shock trooper is also wrong in the CRL but the game reference has this sane border (molded area) CRL image separate Reference ANH would be better suited for this build with rotated large ab plate Looking forward to seeing this build progress. I plan to get the AM ANH armor and modify it as needed to match the game references. The AB plate will take some work for sure but I think I can get it right. The belt has no square button covers at all, just a visible rivet painted white on each side. I’m wondering if I should build the basic TK first, then go from there to the Heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 35 minutes ago, TheLoneRanger said: The belt has no square button covers at all, just a visible rivet painted white on each side. I’m wondering if I should build the basic TK first, then go from there to the Heavy. Yes just like this one A lot of game version CRL's are also missing some information and correct images and some are not consistent with other game CRL's, when researching I'd highly recommend comparing with the other CRL's. I think you will find quite a few items which will no doubt be different from a base ANH, I'd probably head straight for a BF2 build from the start, but entirely up to you if you want to do the conversions. The thigh ammo strip is also mounted higher like other game CRL's, unlike the other CRL's it still has a rivet in each corner which other game versions do not. If you study the image above you may also note the overlap construction (which is ROTJ style), not butt joined and coverstrip. Belt ends are a little bit longer and the rivet is set more towards the ends of the belt. Also drop boxes are centered to the last belt box NOT to the ends of the belt TKC Also note the rounded look to the posterior and fused kindey/posterior same as other game versions. This costume had been discussed previously and you can find some more reference here if you haven't already seen them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 31 minutes ago, gmrhodes13 said: Yes just like this one A lot of game version CRL's are also missing some information and correct images and some are not consistent with other game CRL's, when researching I'd highly recommend comparing with the other CRL's. I think you will find quite a few items which will no doubt be different from a base ANH, I'd probably head straight for a BF2 build from the start, but entirely up to you if you want to do the conversions. The thigh ammo strip is also mounted higher like other game CRL's, unlike the other CRL's it still has a rivet in each corner which other game versions do not. If you study the image above you may also note the overlap construction (which is ROTJ style), not butt joined and coverstrip. Belt ends are a little bit longer and the rivet is set more towards the ends of the belt. Also drop boxes are centered to the last belt box NOT to the ends of the belt TKC Also note the rounded look to the posterior and fused kindey/posterior same as other game versions. This costume had been discussed previously and you can find some more reference here if you haven't already seen them I’ll look through this and get some nice big printouts of the in game model so when I’m assembling the armor, I can follow the model and modify my armor as needed to be as close as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilheyra[TK] Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 If you need a source for the gasket around the chest, back, abdominal, and kidney/posterior pieces, this worked great for my shock trooper: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B87SDCVK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 It comes in a 26-foot length, which is enough to apply to all the pieces and have a few feet of extra material left over. I installed it so the wider edge (the edge with the built-in adhesive material) is on the interior, and the narrow edge is on the exterior (where it is visible). I then glued it all in place with E6000 glue. The built-in adhesive is not strong enough to tolerate trooping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 New screenshots I just took. I thought the neck trim was white at first. But nope, it’s black. Just the game engine lighting messing with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Ribbed undersuit, shoulders, elbows, neck and between backplate and kidney. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, gmrhodes13 said: Ribbed undersuit, shoulders, elbows, neck and between backplate and kidney. Rogue One undersuit by the looks of it, which tracks. The developers probably used a modern undersuit for all the armors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, TheLoneRanger said: Rogue One undersuit by the looks of it, which tracks. The developers probably used a modern undersuit for all the armors. Definitely a mix of old and new. Lines running down from the neck is a little weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 Just now, gmrhodes13 said: Definitely a mix of old and new. Lines running down from the neck is a little weird. I’ll message GeekyPink and see what she can for the suit, this’ll be an interesting one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 30 Author Report Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, TheLoneRanger said: I’ll message GeekyPink and see what she can for the suit, this’ll be an interesting one. So Geeky does not do R1 suits at this time. Shame, I would’ve just had one modified. Other makers that come to mind are Jimmiroquai and KeepTrooping. Worth a shot to ask if they’d be up for some custom shenanigans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilheyra[TK] Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Would a waffle knit thermal shirt and pants work for an undersuit? Could be a simpler option when compared to having to produce something custom. Of course, the flaw in something off the shelf is the waffle knit shirts and pants have a different pattern of material for the collar of the shirt and waistband of the pants. Maybe a custom neck seal with extra fabric draping down would conceal the different fabric texture of the collar. Not sure at the moment what could be done with the waistband. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 30 Author Report Share Posted January 30 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Tilheyra said: Would a waffle knit thermal shirt and pants work for an undersuit? Could be a simpler option when compared to having to produce something custom. Of course, the flaw in something off the shelf is the waffle knit shirts and pants have a different pattern of material for the collar of the shirt and waistband of the pants. Maybe a custom neck seal with extra fabric draping down would conceal the different fabric texture of the collar. Not sure at the moment what could be done with the waistband. Could do. I’m just figuring if this is the first one of this costume, I should go that extra step for exact detail. Then if anyone else decides to do one, they can look here and see who I got mine from, or get ideas for how to make their own. What I’m thinking is the R1 pants as they are are perfectly fine, have the shirt be fully ribbed with the neck seal built in and no zipper, functioning as a pullover like underarmor. Edited January 30 by TheLoneRanger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Going for extra detail as the CRL model is a good idea, especially when others may follow and what to obtain L2 or L3. . Sheevs emporium do a lot of custom sewing, may be an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneRanger[501st] Posted January 30 Author Report Share Posted January 30 I managed to get ahold of the exact model used, ripped straight from the game. So I took off the chest and back plate. Safe to say, the entire suit is ribbed. I didn't remove the other armor pieces, but I took a peek down the sides and they're fully ribbed even in areas that aren't seen at all. Interesting choice but likely done to save time in the 3D modeling process. The gloves are indeed Rogue One gloves as I thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweatshop Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, TheLoneRanger said: I managed to get ahold of the exact model used, ripped straight from the game. So I took off the chest and back plate. Safe to say, the entire suit is ribbed. I didn't remove the other armor pieces, but I took a peek down the sides and they're fully ribbed even in areas that aren't seen at all. Interesting choice but likely done to save time in the 3D modeling process. The gloves are indeed Rogue One gloves as I thought. Great idea checking the model. I’m curious what the Clone undersuit is like in game. I’ll have to rip it when I get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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