themaninthesuitcase[Admin] Posted July 13, 2025 Report Posted July 13, 2025 Just had a scan through the thread and I can't see a CRL having been proposed. So I guess a good place to start will be the current TFA, if we just flesh out the differences it will save on some head aches trying to keep the 2 aligned whilst we write it. I think that would amount to a few extra lines on the helmet, and a pauldron section. 2 Quote
TheRascalKing[TK] Posted July 14, 2025 Author Report Posted July 14, 2025 (edited) I had removed my previous posts regarding CRL creation in frustration with the process. Here we are nearly 4 years later and I would just like to see this across the line. Please utilize the Stormtrooper, The Force Awakens CRL as the starting point, and add sections for the visor and pauldron, as proposed below in GREEN. I will abandon my previous points regarding striking components that are unable to be verified in the game and keep the suggested edits minimal if it helps get this completed. Helmet A visor mounted over the eye lens is painted medium red, consistent in appearance with reference materials Visor contains a recessed square at the wearer's left temple Visor contains an arched "ear" on the right side with attached vertical antenna that is painted white A curved seam runs horizontally, low on the sides of the visor Shoulder Pauldron An ornament with 5 medium red panels and a black base made of rigid material is worn over both shoulders, proportional to the wearer and consistent in appearance with reference materials The pauldron covers both shoulders and extends across the wearer's back The pauldron is joined in the front, center by a black section with 3 grey panels Updated the Thermal Detonator to note the black end cap and add an optional green Hengstler light and other minor updates to the blaster as below. http://www.501st.com/include/images/crlblackhd.gif Lieutenant Gauge Description: First Order Stormtrooper Lieutenant, Tales From the Galaxy's Edge: Last Call Prefix: TK Detachment: First Imperial Stormtrooper Detachment Context: Star Wars Tales From the Galaxy's Edge: Last Call Lt. Gauge was a stormtrooper of the First Order who served as a lieutenant. During the First Order-Resistance War, Lieutenant Gauge operated on Batuu, serving as the leader of stormtroopers there. Gauge's role was to run a First Order re-education facility, with the purpose of kidnapping and brainwashing Batuuans to force them to fight for the First Order. Gauge was equipped with a red visor on his helmet, a communications relay on the right side of his helmet, and a double-sided red pauldron. For 501st membership only the requirements in black need to be met. FISD Defines additional, optional levels of costuming excellence. In the page below, requirements for Level 2 “Expert Infantry” are listed in blue. Requirements for Level 3 “Centurion” are listed in red. Please visit the FISD web site for a full description of these standards. Special Notes: EVA foam & Similar materials are not approvable. Blasters are not required for legion membership per our weapons policy. A Blaster is required for level 2 and above. Armor is scaled proportionately to the wearer. 3D printed components must have no visible print lines and must be smooth for a realistic appearance. This Visual Guide has been reviewed by the detachment staff and the LMO team and is certified for use as a minimum approval guideline for GMLs. GMLs are free to approve this costume type. This document is not intended to be a detailed how-to on costume construction; rather a visual guide to be used for 501st costume approval. Details on construction may be found on the respective costume detachment web forum. GMLs uncertain about an aspect of submitted costume shall post questions in the appropriate DL/GML peer review section of the Legion forum. Measurements given in this document are intended to be approximate and generalized; not criteria for approval. Requirements for all 501st costumes are proportional to the wearer in scale, fit and size. Text descriptions are only one part of the guideline. GMLs and costumers must consider both text and pictures (CRL and Reference) when reviewing the costume. Required Costume Components The following costume components are present and appear as described below. Helmet Lenses are smoky brown or gray in color. They may be bubble in shape or flat and must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the costumer's eyes. A single silver aerator/mic tip is on the lower left side of the wearer's chin. The frown is solid black and covered in a black hexagonal mesh pattern that extends to the tears. Each tear (area beneath the corners of eye lenses) is solid black. Seven recessed tube stripes are present on each side of the helmet. Two clip greeblies are present over the traps on the side. Two clip greeblies are present on the top of the helmet, parallel to the trap greeblies. Along the base of the helmet, a black stripe runs from the side of the helmet and across the back to the other side. There is a slight groove that circles the helmet, above the brow. There is a slight groove that circles the helmet along the bottom and over the chin. A brow of solid black material spans from the traps over the lenses. Directly below the traps toward the base of the helmet is a small trapezoidal stripe. A visor mounted over the eye lens is painted medium red, consistent in appearance with reference materials Visor contains a recessed square at the wearer's left temple Visor contains an arched "ear" on the right side with attached vertical antenna that is painted white A curved seam runs horizontally, low on the sides of the visor OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): The seven recessed tube stripe slots on each side of the helmet are fully cut out. Neckseal Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer, and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck. No hair or skin should be visible around the neck area. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Ideally, the neckseal shall have 11 ribs. The neckseal has a glossy finish. Chest Plate The chest plate overlaps the abdominal plate. The center-top of the chest plate is recessed and black on the side and upward facing edges. A smaller clasp greeblie shall be present on each side of the chest, just inside a small indented area the size of the greeblie. There is a slight groove running vertical on each lateral side of the chest that angles toward the center. Six recessed black ovals are on the wearer's right side, left of the greeblie. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Grooves on sides of chest should show clear separation. Six recessed black ovals are cut out and backed with black material. Back/Yoke The back plate contains a “O II” design, and the O is black in color. There are no visible seams on the back/yoke. The yoke portion extends over the wearer's shoulders and curves under the armpits. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): A support tab extending from the outside top arch of the yoke shall be present. The support tab should be of a sturdy material, white in color. Shoulder Pauldron An ornament with 5 medium red panels and a black base made of rigid material is worn over both shoulders, proportional to the wearer and consistent in appearance with reference materials The pauldron covers both shoulders and extends across the wearer's back The pauldron is joined in the front, center by a black section with 3 grey panels Thermal Detonator The thermal detonator mounting plate sits under the back plate and rests above the belt. The control panel is black. The righthand recessed end cap is black. The lefthand end cap extends from the detonator assembly and is black all around the cylinder as well as the end surface. A white stripe is present around the end of the cylinder that extends slightly onto the circular surface. A visible seam is allowed between the cylinder and backing plate. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The slot that runs across the top of the detonator shall have a black decal or be painted black at the bottom of the groove. Shoulder Gaskets Gaskets shall be rubber or a shiny black material with ridges. The shoulder gaskets must cover all exposed areas under the shoulder bell, between the bicep and chest, and between bicep and back. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Gaskets shall be made of rubber. Fabric gaskets are not acceptable. Shoulder Bells One on each shoulder. The shoulders are considered effectively symmetrical. They may be worn interchangeably on the left and right shoulders. Shoulders have small round extension at the top under the bell itself that butts up against the yoke. Biceps Biceps have one seam that faces forward, and a seam on the inside of the arm. The rest of the bicep must be seamless. A clip greeblie is present low and across the seam. Two black ovals are present on the outside-facing side of the bicep. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Trapezoid detail and ridges in bicep must be present (small detailed section). The inner seam should be overlapped construction. Seams can be fixed or functional. Elbow Gaskets Gaskets shall be rubber or a shiny black material with ridges. The elbow gaskets must cover all exposed areas between the bicep and forearm. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Gaskets shall be made of rubber. Fabric gaskets are not acceptable. Forearms Forearms shall have a ridged rail, similar to a picatinny, embedded on the inside of the forearm, roughly covered 1/3rd by a box shape. Forearms shall have a box on the bottom the wrist end. Each box shall have a single black square in the lower inside corner. Each forearm shall have two 'clasp greeblies' on the outside facing surface, near the wrist. Detail box includes black rectangle on small edge perpendicular and closest to wrist. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Forearm wrist box should be separate pieces, affixed to forearms. Forearm top plate is not attached at front of wrists. Gloves/Handplates Are black with white palm, thumb and forefinger. Extend underneath the forearm. White area is made from leather or leather-like material. Handplates are rigid square boxes and the hand plates are mounted securely over the back of the glove. The recessed oval detail is aligned with the index finger of each hand. A black decal or paint may be used to emulate the recessed oval detail. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Glove palm must have black stitching. Abdomen Section The abdomen section must wrap around the wearer's body without a visible seam. The abdomen has 7 boxes attached that match the order and placement shown against the armor. The large box has a small black recessed square on the lower left to the wearer. The second box to the right of the wearer has a small black recessed rectangle near the top. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The boxes should sit against the abdominal plate with minimal to no gaps. OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): The seams between the abdominal armor and the 7 boxes should not be filled. Codpiece The codpiece sits below the abdomen and under the belt. Posterior armor The posterior armor sits below the abdomen and under the belt. The top portion of the part shown is hidden by the belt and used to connect the plate to the abdomen armor. Belt The belt is ribbed and made from a rubber or a rubber like material. The width of the belt is approximately 2" (50mm). Five white rectangular boxes and one pouch sit on the belt. There are 2 horizontal boxes on the front, on each side of the center. They are painted white on the outside half and black on the inside half. There are 2 vertical boxes on the right of the wearer. There is a large vertical black pouch with a white cover behind the left side of the wearer. A small black cloth pouch is worn on the left side and hides the buckle or remaining belt material. Undersuit An undergarment must be worn such that the space between the thighs and the belt shows a black material. The black material may be shiny or matte. The reference photo shows the type used on screen but is not required for basic approval. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): The shorts area of the undersuit should be shiny. Thighs There are seams on the inside and outside of the thighs. A clip greeblie is present high and across the outside seams of each thigh. The right outside thigh to the wearer includes a base for a holster (holster must be present). OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Holster must be shown to be Functional. OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): The inner seam should be overlapped construction. Seams can be fixed or functional. Knee Gaskets Gaskets shall be rubber or a shiny black material with ridges. The knee gaskets must cover all exposed areas between the thigh and shin. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Gaskets shall be made of rubber. Fabric gaskets are not acceptable. Knee Plates The knee plates mirror each other and are placed evenly between the thigh and the shin. Convex edge of knee plate faces upward. Shins There are seams on the inside and outside of the shins, with the opening on the inside. A clip greeblie is present high and across the outside seams of each shin. The wearer's left outside shin includes two vertical thin boxes that are seamless. There is a rounded rectangle at the bottom outer front of each shin, which is visible above the spat. The recessed area is black. Spats The spats wrap around the lower ankle, just below the black ankle rectangles. The spats are enclosed on the outside of the ankle with a greeblie that overlaps the open side. There is a visible seam on the inside of the ankle. Boots The boots are above-ankle height, and made of white leather or leather-like material. There is a seam down both sides of the front that swoops out to the side of the foot. There is a vertical zipper on the inside that spans the height of the boot. There is a black flat sole with no heel. No buckles or laces. Optional Accessories Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use. F-11D Blaster Blaster may be scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. Blaster may have a sling attached. Details to be painted black, white and silver per reference photos. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Rear sight is painted black white. D-ring mount is painted silver, if D ring is present it should be rectangular in shape and painted black 3D printed blasters can not contain visible print lines and must be sanded smooth for a more realistic appearance. OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Working green light in the Hengstler counter and working front torch are required. Front handle must be movable. Edited July 15, 2025 by TheRascalKing Quote
Sly11[Admin] Posted July 14, 2025 Report Posted July 14, 2025 Thanks for getting back onto this one Justin, and for laying it out with the additions. Really, the only delay we are faced with at present is the LMO team not adding any new CRL's until they have the platform transition complete. Then there may be a backlog for a little while. Do you have all the separate part images also ready to go? We should be able to have this all ready for submission in a reasonable time frame so it can go into the LMO queue along with Cpt Enoch. 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted July 15, 2025 Report Posted July 15, 2025 Great to see you back at this Justin With this being a TFA based costume I'm wondering if we need to include ALL of the TLJ Thermal Detonator requirements, some you just couldn't tell, like the inner floating pipe. I also think the end cap is not as big as the TLJ detonator as we see in the reference below. If we stay with the TFA Thermal Detonator requirements you could just add a black cap or paint the whole end and paint the top slit to resemble the reference. Personally I would think this would be an easier option rather than having to purchase another detonator TLJ style. TFA CRL information, remove one piece and add a L2 requirement like the TLJ Thermal Detonator The thermal detonator mounting plate sits under the back plate and rests above the belt. The control panel is black. The righthand recessed end cap is black. The lefthand end cap extends from the detonator assembly and is black all around the cylinder as well as the end surface. A white stripe is present around the end of the cylinder that extends slightly onto the circular surface. A visible seam is allowed between the cylinder and backing plate. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): The slot that runs across the top of the detonator shall have a black decal or be painted black at the bottom of the groove. On the blaster I did find this detail previously, rear sight is painted white like the F-11D Blaster Rifle I'm not sure if we would allow a sling, I've not seen one in the game and there is NO D ring so a sling couldn't be attached anyway Optional Accessories Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use. F-11D Blaster Blaster may be scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. Blaster may have a sling attached. Details to be painted black, white and silver per reference photos. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Rear sight is painted black. white D ring mount painted silver, if D ring is present it should be rectangular in shape and painted black 3D printed blasters can not contain visible print lines and must be sanded smooth for a more realistic appearance. OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Working green light in the Hengstler counter and working front torch are required. Front handle must be movable. 1 Quote
TheRascalKing[TK] Posted July 15, 2025 Author Report Posted July 15, 2025 (edited) 22 hours ago, Sly11 said: Thanks for getting back onto this one Justin, and for laying it out with the additions. Really, the only delay we are faced with at present is the LMO team not adding any new CRL's until they have the platform transition complete. Then there may be a backlog for a little while. Do you have all the separate part images also ready to go? We should be able to have this all ready for submission in a reasonable time frame so it can go into the LMO queue along with Cpt Enoch. I have heard about the CRL system overhaul that is in progress outside the detachment and accept that it is unavoidable for the time being. Hopefully we can wrap this up with a bow so that it is ready for submission once changes are able to be made again. Please keep me posted if there is an anticipated date of completion. I don't have the images ready yet, but can work on that. I plan to weather the kit to match the game reference in the near future and will provide updated pics then. Or we can submit a clean version and utilize all of the existing TFA individual pics save the helmet and pauldron. Whatever gets it done. 19 hours ago, gmrhodes13 said: Great to see you back at this Justin With this being a TFA based costume I'm wondering if we need to include ALL of the TLJ Thermal Detonator requirements, some you just couldn't tell, like the inner floating pipe. I also think the end cap is not as big as the TLJ detonator as we see in the reference below. If we stay with the TFA Thermal Detonator requirements you could just add a black cap or paint the whole end and paint the top slit to resemble the reference. Personally I would think this would be an easier option rather than having to purchase another detonator TLJ style. On the blaster I did find this detail previously, rear sight is painted white like the F-11D Blaster Rifle I'm not sure if we would allow a sling, I've not seen one in the game and there is NO D ring so a sling couldn't be attached anyway I agree with your suggestions and have updated the draft above, thank you. Edited July 15, 2025 by TheRascalKing 2 Quote
MaskedVengeance[Staff] Posted July 15, 2025 Report Posted July 15, 2025 Glen is speaking my language with all that TD talk. 1 Quote
TheRascalKing[TK] Posted July 18, 2025 Author Report Posted July 18, 2025 On 7/15/2025 at 4:00 PM, gmrhodes13 said: F-11D reference Don't worry - needs some tweaks, but I'm on it. 1 Quote
TheRascalKing[TK] Posted August 27, 2025 Author Report Posted August 27, 2025 Working on weathering and proper Gauge-specific forearm rails as well! 4 Quote
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