R2Dan[TK] Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Hey guys! I was going through the BluRay features the other day with my mate Dennis, and while looking at the Luke torso we thought "Hell, this doesn't actually look vac formed at all!" Why, do you ask? Look at this screen grab of the Luke suit (which I nicked from another thread, hope that's okay): See how sharp those ridges are? Here's another of an archive suit: You notice there's a colour difference, not a surprise as they most likely were added on later, but were they vac-formed at all? Or maybe cast? Something completely different maybe? Vac formed into a negative mould to get the sharp detail? What do you guys think? I'm not convinced they're cast, but I'm not 100% sure they are just another vac formed piece anymore either... Edited December 14, 2011 by R2Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrazor Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 i think it was vac-formed into a negative vac forming mold. not formed over a positive mold like current armor makers. AA commented on using both negative and positive molds at some point. "I made no sketches, no models, no engineering drawings… I sculpted the production moulds directly, using my own blends of resins, fillers and metal dusts… The production moulds were the sculptures... they were positives, negatives and reverse engineered." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroRoom[TK] Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I would say definitely negatively vac formed. The key would be seeing them in profile. Are the buttons and the ridges the exact same height? If so they would be formed the way half spheres are formed by vac forming - holes and slots in a flat piece. Good spot sir! I look forward to this debate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2Dan[TK] Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Yeah, the negative vac forming is a plausible explanation, although I wouldn't give much on what AA said, for obvious reasons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330[TK] Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 This very point was raised a while back in the thread with Blu-ray screen caps of Luke's armour. I hope this Christmas TE finally gets those nail clippers he asked Santa for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK_LEPER Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) I might have to try some negative vac forming. Rivet covers have that same sharp edge around the button shape. But ive been trying to figure this out, now I know! Thanks guys! I was thinking they pressed something into the plastic as they vac formed it... But this makes total sense. Edited December 14, 2011 by TK 4702 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK_LEPER Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Look at this screen grab of the Luke suit (which I nicked from another thread, hope that's okay): That's what they're for! That's in my image gallery. It's from the bonus disk... here's the link. Jess Edited December 14, 2011 by TK 4702 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK_LEPER Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Here's more detail shots of the ab parts... from the LFL Archives Edited December 14, 2011 by TK 4702 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK_LEPER Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) I wonder if they originally just counter sunk holes in a piece of wood? Actually, I bet they drilled through a thin piece of wood... glued it to a sold piece, and then vac formed that... because the buttons are all consistent as far as the height and diameter, etc. But what about the little divots in the center of each button, or are they just flat in the center? I thought there was a little dip in the center of each button? I guess they could have also made the part with cutout shapes, then casted it... and vac formed the negative (or mold essentially). That would have been easier than building a negative. Edited December 14, 2011 by TK 4702 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femtrooper Julie[501st] Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 The attention to detail you guys have never ceases to amaze me. Good job! Looks like you all are on to something here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Had a go at making one like this recently. Got the butto strip and rivet covers done now too. More pics of parts on armour up soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Nice work Paul! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Looks great Paul. Nicely done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Thanks Wait until you see the pieces on an ab plate. I think you will like the new look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Sounds like I need to buy some replacement upgrades I've been wanting to do that some time anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 I have a few spares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Sweet! Let me get back to you next month. I'm moving to a new flat soon so I will have to get new furniture and other expensive household stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Here we go. Hope you like the parts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Yes, I like it a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiHahn[TK] Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 That's exactly how it's supposed to look - great work, Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Boy my Lukes suit going to look the dogs, with detail like that Paul ;)ammazzing work work mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330[TK] Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Is the new ab button plate standard issue on current and open orders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 @ Rich i think you might be in there old chap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Is the new ab button plate standard issue on current and open orders? Yes, but the old style is still an option. The acrylic capped ABS is not glossy on the reverse side so the negative formed pieces may not be what some people want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330[TK] Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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