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Between 15 & 20 garrison members are looking to build FOTK suits. This will be the place-holder where they will chart their progress. Stay tuned!
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FISD and the 501st Legion are giving away a copy of the new book Star Wars Stormtroopers: Beyond the Armor by Adam Bray and Ryder Windham courtesy of HarperCollins Design and Wunderkind PR! Just tell us YOUR favorite style of Stormtrooper in the poll and you'll be eligible to win a FREE copy of this book. Winner announced Saturday, so hurry! To enter, simply create an account (if you haven't already), log in, and vote. Check out the video too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FiVoXELVyA
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FISD and the 501st Legion are giving away a copy of the new book Star Wars Stormtroopers: Beyond the Armor by Adam Bray and Ryder Windham courtesy of HarperCollins Design and Wunderkind PR! Just tell us YOUR favorite style of Stormtrooper in the poll and you'll be eligible to win a FREE copy of this book. Winner announced Saturday, so hurry! Check out the video too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FiVoXELVyA
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Looking good!
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Any thoughts and opinions on the ATA Works Armor?
Daetrin replied to ZeroRaven's topic in Hard Armor (General Discussion)
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Actually you don't need DL approval. Your GML can make a local approval based on the CRL. I would prefer your GML try to evaluate your application based on the CRL so: 1. He can learn how to read it and approve this costume. 2. If he has any questions on the CRL, we can answer it. It will improve the CRL Detachment leaders cannot approve any Legion submission. All we can do is voice recommendations. GMLs make the decision, can be overridden by the GCO, and the LMO makes any ultimate call in case of dispute.
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I can see how people don't like it the first time, I suggest re-watching it. My good garrison-mate Sandeman summed up the below on FB, and his notes below sum up how I feel. Personally I think it's one of the best SW movies done to date. Is it the same "fun" as TFA? No, it's different because it needs to be, and that's not bad. // After 48 hours of digesting the movie, I saw it again today... And it was a different experience. The humor never bothered me, but it seemed more subtle. I picked up on things that I had not missed, but didn't correlate, such as: The dark kelp hole - like the cave on Dagobah, it only contains what one takes with them. Yoda - the entire idea of the movie was in his words. Crait - the clue is in the footprints. To sum up my feelings; my initial assessment was it wasn't what I wanted to see, but after a second viewing, it was the story that needed to be told. It was diffent and didn't play to the expected tropes, and I think that's what bothers most people, but it didn't have to play by my rules. The Force Awakens hit the wickets because it had to. It had to be different from the prequels by being the same as A New Hope (which some call derivitive). The Last Jedi had to be different also, and Rian Johnson took that idea and didn't remake The Empire Strikes Back. He did his own thing, a much more introspective thing. While I still don't agree with some of his choices, I don't have to. I get the message. I've made colossal mistakes while trying to do what I thought was right, and every main character in this movie is a victim of their own hubris. I think it helped that I watched Empire last night and saw the paralles from Luke's time on Dagobah. It's actually a pretty good entry to the saga, even if it's not the movie we've all made in our heads.
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Wow, I've only ever once see GF armor from GF and that was in 2007. As noted, he sold his molds and was the original FX maker. For us skinny people, those original FX thighs (the later models were re-done to be more barrel like) were rare and gold. Wasn't aware he usually signed his kits back in the day.
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OK, I added more details from the TLJ CRL L2/L3 from here: http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_TLJ The issue is that some of these L2/L3 details do not apply to Phasma. Hopefully the girls will chime in and let us know what can be copied over. I'm adding a few more reference pix.
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Truth - all of these are being baked in now.
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I have a boat-load of changes from the google doc - just need some quiet time to put them in. You'll see a lot of changes soon.
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The goal is to get this CRL complete as it's never been done before. I've asked Ingrid Moon (LadyInWhite) and Misty Melillo to lead this. Along with Teresa, Jana, Molly and several others, this is what they have so far. Yes, this is the TFA as the base and I'll make changes based on what they have posted in their GoogleDoc as updates, but wanted to get the base post started. NOTES: 1. This first post will always be the master list. Any agreed upon changes will be reflected here. 2. I will cite any change, e.g. [TFAL2] as something that is copied from the TFA L2, or [Ingrid] as an Ingrid change. 3. Goal is to have this 100% complete by the end of the year. Alrighty, so, let's get the party started. // Helmet *The helmet is mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *Lenses are smoky brown or gray in color. They may be bubble in shape or flat and must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the costumer's eyes. *The frown is solid black and covered in black hexagonal mesh that extends to the tears. *There are three slight grooves that circumvents the helmet above the brow, which is the same color as the helmet. *There is a slight groove that circumvents the helmet along the bottom and over the chin. *The bottom of the helmet flares slightly outward and is horizontal and flat on the bottom. *A “Mohawk”-like ridge is raised along the center of the helmet from the brow to the bottom back. *Parallel to either side of the raised ridge are three slight grooves; the third groove may cut back toward the trap. L2 *Grooves in helmet are not black or otherwise colored in. Neck Seal * Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer, and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck. L2 *Neckseal has a bib on front and back. *Neckseal shall have 11 ribs. Chest Armor *Chest is mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *The chest plate overlaps the abdominal plate. *The “cut-out” in the center-top of the chest plate is recessed and black on the side and upward facing edges. *A small clasp greeblie shall be present on each side of the chest, just inside a small indented area the size of the greeblie. *There is a groove running vertical on each lateral side of the chest that angles toward the center. *Six recessed black ovals are on the wearer's right side, left of the greeblie. L3 *Channel on sides of chest should show clear separation. Back/Yoke *Yoke is mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *The back plate contains a "O II" design. *The back/yoke is one seamless piece. *The yoke portion extends over the wearer's shoulders and curves under the armpits. Thermal Detonator* The thermal detonator mounting plate is mirror reflective, unweathered, and sits under the back plate and rests above the belt.* The control panel is black.* The right-hand recessed end cape is black.* The left-hand end cap extends from the detonator assembly and is black all around the cylinder as well as the end surface. A silver stripe is present around the end of the cylinder that extends slightly onto the circular surface.* There should be no visible seams. L2 *Small section of black around the base of the left extended end cap shall be present. Shoulder Gaskets *Gaskets shall be rubber or a shiny black material with ridges. *The shoulder gaskets must cover all exposed areas under the shoulder bell, between the bicep and chest, and between bicep and back. L3 *Gaskets shall be made of rubber. Fabric gaskets are not acceptable. Shoulder Bells *One on each shoulder. *Bells are mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *The shoulders are considered effectively symmetrical. They may be worn interchangeably on the left and right shoulders. *Shoulders have small round extension at the top under the bell itself that butts up against the yoke. Biceps *Biceps are mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *Biceps have only one seam on the side that faces forward. *A clip greeblie is present low and across the seam. *Two black ovals are present on the outward facing side of the bicep. L3 *Ridges in bicep must be present (small detailed section). Elbow Gaskets *Gaskets shall be rubber or a shiny black material with ridges. *The elbow gaskets must cover all exposed areas between the bicep and forearm. L3 *Gaskets shall be made of rubber. Fabric gaskets are not acceptable. Forearms *Forearms are mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *Forearms shall have ridged rail, similar to a picatinny, embedded on the inside of the forearm. *Forearms shall have a box on the bottom the wrist end, roughly covering 1/3rd of the embedded rail. *Each forearm shall have two 'clasp greeblies' on the outward facing surface, near the wrist. *Detail box includes black rectangle on small edge perpendicular and closest to wrist. Gloves/fingers *Hand armor is mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *Gloves are black. *Gloves extend underneath the forearm. *Hand plates are rigid square boxes and the hand plates are mounted securely over the back of the glove. *A trapezoidal wrist plate is mounted securely between the hand plate and the forearm, contoured to match the hand plate.*Finger armor is three rigid pieces per finger, proportionate in size to the fingers, with the fingertips ending in small, contoured trapezoids. L2 *There shall be a scribed border on the top, approximately 1/2" from the edge all the way around each plate. L3 *Glove inner palm must have black stitching. Abdomen Section *Abdomen section is mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *The abdomen section must wrap around the wearer's body. *The abdomen has 7 boxes attached that matches the order and placement shown. *The large box has a small black recessed square to on the lower left of the wearer. *The second box to the right of the wearer has a small black recessed rectangle near the top. Codpiece *The codpiece is mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *The codpiece sits below the abdomen and under the belt. *The codpiece is relatively flat, triangular, and contains two rectangular indentations, one on either side of the center. Posterior armor *Posterior armor is mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *The posterior armor sits below the abdomen and under the belt. *The top portion of the part is hidden by the belt and used to connect the plate to the abdomen armor. Belt *The belt is ribbed and made from a rubber or a rubber like material. *The belt boxes consist of 2 horizontal boxes, 2 small vertical boxes, and 2 medium vertical boxes. There are no soft pouches with covers on the belt. *The two horizontal boxes worn on the front, one on each side of the center. They are mirror reflective on the outside/front half and black on the inside/back half. *Next to each horizontal box is a small vertical box, then the medium vertical box. The two sides of the belt are symmetrical. Undersuit *An undergarment must be worn such that the space between the thighs and the belt shows a black material. The black material may be shiny or matte. *The reference photo shows the type used on screen but is not required for basic approval. L3 *The shorts area of the undersuit should be shiny. Thighs *Thighs are mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *There are seams on the inside and outside of each thigh. *A clip greeblie is present high and across the outside seams of each thigh. *The wearer's right thigh includes a base for a weapon holster. Holster does not need to be functional. Knee Gaskets *Gaskets shall be rubber or a shiny black material with ridges. *The knee gaskets must cover all exposed areas between the thigh and shin. L3 *Gaskets shall be made of rubber. Fabric gaskets are not acceptable. Knee Plates *The knee plates are mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *The knee plates mirror each other and are placed evenly between the thigh and the shin. *Convex edge of knee plate faces downward. Shins *Shins are mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. *There are seams on the inside and outside of the shins, with the opening on the inside. *A clip greeblie is present high and across the outside seams of each shin. *The wearer's left outside shin includes two vertical thin boxes that are seamless. L2 *There are pills at the bottom of the shins just above the spats. Boots *Boots are black suede, leather, or leather-like, absent of laces, with no pronounced heel. They may be Chelsea (TK) or First Order (TK) style boots. L3 *Boots must have a small heel, unlike regular FO style boots. Shin Armor *Shin and foot armor are mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. * The foot armor consists of four pieces: ** A toe armor plate that is rigid and has a contoured curve that covers the front top of the boot ** A heel cover that is a semi-circular piece that affixes to the rear heel of the boot ** Instep armor which is a rounded edged rectangle that sits above the toe armor and rests against the shin piece ** A circular spat piece that has a greeblie on the outside edge of each spat, and a matching contour indent in the front that aligns with the shin armor. Cape *The cape is a black cotton canvas or rubberized canvas that crosses the chest diagonally from the right shoulder to the left elbow area. *There is a red stripe painted down the entire left seam of the cape. The stripe and seam are approximately 1.25” - 1.5” wide. *There is a seam down The right side of the cape approximately 1” - 1.25” wide. *The cape attaches at the right shoulder with a semi hidden closure and there is a black leather or leather like strap approximately 1.5” x 14” that drapes over the right shoulder onto the costumer’s back. *There are 4 pockets on the back left side of the cape starting approximately in the shoulder blade area in a 1, 2, and 1 pattern. The top and bottom pockets are approximately 4.5” x 9” and the 2 middle pockets are approximately 5.5” x 11.5”. The bottom pocket has a black leather or leather like strap approximately 1.5” x 14” attached horizontally to the bottom left corner. *There are 2 black leather or leather like straps attached horizontally to the left seam, behind the red stripe approximately located around the left hand area. The top strap is located about 1” above the bottom strap. The top strap is approximately 1.5” x 16” and the bottom strap is approximately 1.5” x 14”. *The back of the cape should be long enough to touch the ground but may vary in length +/- a few inches. The back of the cape rises diagonally from the left foot area to the right hand/knee area. There is a hem along the entire bottom of the cape. L2 *The cape is made of cotton canvas and consists of 4 panels. *The cape is coated with a binder giving it a slight sheen. *The right shoulder connection is permanent or semi-permanent and allows the right side of the cape to rotate. This creates waves and bunching across the back of the cape. *The cape has bunching at the left shoulder area. ACCESSORIES Captain Phasma Blaster Rifle *Based on a replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. *Similar to standard First Order Stormtrooper Blaster with extended stock attached. *Details are mirror reflective and shall not be weathered. L3 *Working lights and working front torch are required. *Front handle must be movable. Captain Phasma SE-44C *Based on a replica Glock 19 repeating pistol, scratch-built, or a modified commercial Stormtrooper toy. *Details to be painted black, white and mirror reflective per reference photos, and not be weathered. Quicksilver baton (spear) *The spear is mirror reflective in color. *The spear is of varying length (it telescopes in the film) and has a cutout section at the 2 foot and 5 foot height marks that is comprised of a small circle, a small oval, and a larger elongated oval. *Length is proportional to costumer and extends approximately 12 inches above the costumer's height.
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The current Captain Phasma is here: http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_TFA_captain_phasma The goal is to add L2/L3 requirements to this CRL, and we've asked Ingrid Moon (LadyInWhite) to lead this. Along with Teresa, Jana, Molly and several others, this is what they have so far. NOTES: 1. This first post will always be the master list. Any agreed upon changes will be reflected here. 2. I will cite any change, e.g. [TFAL2] as something that is copied from the TFA L2, or [Ingrid] as an Ingrid change. 3. Goal is to have this 100% complete by the end of the year. 4. Removals will be in red, additions in blue. Alrighty, so, let's get the party started. // Helmet *The helmet is a reflective metallic silver or chrome in color except the frown as indicated below *Lenses are smoky brown or gray in color. They may be bubble in shape or flat and must be sufficiently dark enough to obscure the costumer's eyes. *The frown is solid black and covered in black hexagonal mesh that extends to the tears *There are three slight grooves that circumvents the helmet above the brow, which is the same color as the helmet *There is a slight groove that circumvents the helmet along the bottom and over the chin *The bottom of the helmet flares slightly outward and is horizontal and flat on the bottom *A “Mohawk”-like ridge is raised along the center of the helmet from the brow to the bottom back *Parallel to either side of the raised ridge are three slight grooves; the third groove may cut back toward the trap Neck Seal * Black with horizontal ribs, fitted to the wearer, and extending from the base of the neck to conceal the entire neck. Chest Armor *Chest is reflective metallic silver in color. *The chest plate overlaps the abdominal plate *The “cut-out” in the center-top of the chest plate is recessed and black on the side and upward facing edges. *A small clasp greeblie shall be present on each side of the chest, just inside a small indented area the size of the greeblie. *There is a groove running vertical on each lateral side of the chest that angles toward the center *Six recessed black ovals are on the wearer's right side, left of the greeblie. Back/Yoke *Yoke is reflective metallic silver in color. *The back plate contains a "O II" design. *The back/yoke is one seamless piece *The yoke portion extends over the wearer's shoulders and curves under the armpits Shoulder Gaskets *Gaskets shall be rubber or a shiny black material with ridges *The shoulder gaskets must cover all exposed areas under the shoulder bell, between the bicep and chest, and between bicep and back. Shoulder Bells *One on each shoulder. *Reflective metallic silver in color *The shoulders are considered effectively symmetrical. They may be worn interchangeably on the left and right shoulders. *Shoulders have small round extension at the top under the bell itself that butts up against the yoke. Biceps *Biceps are reflective metallic silver in color *Biceps have only one seam on the side that faces forward. *A clip greeblie is present low and across the seam *Two black ovals are present on the outward facing side of the bicep Elbow Gaskets *Gaskets shall be rubber or a shiny black material with ridges *The elbow gaskets must cover all exposed areas between the bicep and forearm Forearms *Reflective metallic silver in color *Forearms shall have have ridged rail, similar to a picatinny, embedded on the inside of the forearm. *Forearms shall have a box on the bottom the wrist end, roughly covering 1/3rd of the embedded rail. *Each forearm shall have two 'clasp greeblies' on the outward facing surface, near the wrist. *Detail box includes black rectangle on small edge perpendicular and closest to wrist. Gloves/fingers *Hand armor is metallic silver or chrome in color. *Gloves are black. *Gloves extend underneath the forearm. *Hand plates are rigid square boxes and the hand plates are mounted securely over the back of the glove. *A wrist plate is mounted securely between the handplate and the forearm, contouredcountoured to match the hand plate. *The black oval detail is aligned with the index finger of each hand. *Finger armor is two rigid pieces per finger, proportionate in size to the fingers, containing rounded bumps on top as shown in the photo. Abdomen Section *Abdomen section is reflective metallic silver in color *The abdomen section must wrap around the wearer's body *The abdomen has 7 boxes attached that matches the order and placement shown *The large box has a small black recessed square to on the lower left of the wearer. *The second box to the right of the wearer has a small black recessed rectangle near the top. Codpiece *The codpiece is reflective metallic silver in color *The codpeice sits below the abdomen and under the belt. *The codpiece is relatively flat, triangular, and contains two rectangular indentations, one on either side of the center. Posterior armor *Posterior armor is reflective metallic silver in color *The posterior armor sits below the abdomen and under the belt. *The top portion of the part is hidden by the belt and used to connect the plate to the abdomen armor. Belt *The belt is ribbed and made from a rubber or a rubber like material. *Four reflective metallic silver rectangular boxes and two covered pouches are attached to the belt. *There are two horizontal boxes worn on the front, one on each side of the center. They are silver or chrome on the outside/front half and black on the inside/back half. *There are two vertical boxes worn on the right of the wearer,. *There is a large vertical black pouch with a silver or chrome cover behind the left side of the wearer. *A small black cloth pouch is worn on the left side and hides the buckle or remaining belt material; this pouch may be covered by a smaller silver or chrome box cover. Undersuit *An undergarment must be worn such that the space between the thighs and the belt shows a black material. The black material may be shiny or matte. *The reference photo shows the type used on screen but is not required for basic approval. Thighs *Thighs are reflective metallic silver in color *There are seams on the inside and outside of each thigh. *A clip greeblie is present high and across the outside seams of each thigh. *The right thigh (when worn) includes a base for a weapon holster. Holster does not need to be functional. Knee Gaskets *Gaskets shall be rubber or a shiny black material with ridges *The knee gaskets must cover all exposed areas between the thigh and shin Knee Plates *The knee plates are reflective metallic silver in color *The knee plates mirror each other and are placed evenly between the thigh and the shin. *Convex edge of knee plate faces downward. Shins *Reflective metallic silver in color *There are seams on the inside and outside of the shins, with the opening on the inside. *A clip greeblie is present high and across the outside seams of each shin. *The wearer's left outside shin includes two vertical thin boxes that are seamless. Boots *Boots are black suede, leather, or leather-like, absent of laces, with no pronounced heel. *Shin and foot armor is reflective metallic silver in color *Lower shin armor is contoured upward in the center, with a square-beveled ridge visible along the top, right, and left sides. *The bottom is rounded over the top of the boot, extending to points on either side. *The lower shin is worn over the lower half of the main shin armor. *Lower calf armor is rigid, curved at the bottom over the heel plate, and extending to points to match the lower shin armor *The calf and lower shin armor are flush and may be connected on the sides by a mylar or silver tape. *The heel armor is semi-circular, rigid, and affixed to the heel of the boot. *The instep armor is rounded or oval and curves with the contour of the boot and sits above the toe and lower shin at an angle. *The toe armor is rigid and has a shallow curve contoured to the front of the boot. Cape *The cape is a black canvas material that crosses the chest diagonally from the right shoulder to the left elbow area. *The cape drops down the left side of the body to within a few inches of the floor or can slightly drag along the floor behind the left foot. *There is a dark red stripe approximately 1.25" - 1.5" in width that follows the front seam of the cape from the right shoulder to the bottom of the left side of the cape. *The cape should fit across the shoulders and may have some slight bunching on the left shoulder. *There is no visible clasp, hooks or snaps at the right shoulder connection *Light wear-and-tear and weathering is permitted. L2 *Cape is 3 panels, with seams on either side of the back plate. *Four asymmetrical pockets are present on the left panel; the top one overlaps the seam. They are in the pattern 1-2-1 from top to bottom. The top pocket is approximately even with the bicep. The pocket size is approximately 8” tall and 5” wide, but may vary because they are not identical. *Two straps approximately 1.25” wide extend from inside the hem of the left panel at hand-level. *One strap approximately 1” wide extends from under the side of the bottom pocket. *The cape is coated on the outside with a thin rubber-like medium. *The fabric is cotton canvas with a diagonal weave visible in the medium. *A black strap approximately 1-1.5” wide extends from the top of the right shoulder down the back. ACCESSORIES Thermal Detonator * The thermal detonator mounting plate is silver and sits under the back plate and rests above the belt. * The control panel is black. * The right-hand recessed end cape is black. * The left-hand end cap extends from the detonator assembly and is black all around the cylinder as well as the end surface. A silver stripe is present around the end of the cylinder that extends slightly onto the circular surface. * There should be no visible seams. Captain Phasma Blaster Rifle *Based on a replica Sterling sub-machine gun, scratch-built, or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster. *Similar to standard First Order Stormtrooper Blaster with extended stock attached. *Details may be painted reflective silver or reflective silver with a golden hue.