SDS Battle Spec Helmet VS RS Prop Masters ( PVC ) Helmet

[Artstar]

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Edited January 16, 2021 by gmrhodes13
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[Marv]

The SDS looks a bit a little bigger and too drawn out at the front when you see them side by side. RS certainly is the way to go.

[Bulldog44[TK]]

Thanks for posting this. I wish there were more comparison photos like this to help people see the helmet/armor differences, especially when you are on the fence about which one to go with. I thought the RS lid felt big when I first put it on but the SDS certainly looks bigger.

[Turrican]

The guys which now still say that SDS uses original moulds for his stuff, are blind or more stupid as we could believe it. :lol:

Thx for that comparsion

[gazmosis[501st]]

_{I have done comparrisons with ATA next to RS Props and RS is a TAD bigger, but the RS in these shots looks like it could fit INTO the SDS. The SDS just looks wrong}

[TK bondservnt[501st]]

great builds and great comparison shots!

[DarthChridan[TK]]

Ok...left is really crappy     ...and right is really BEAUTIFUUUUUUUUUUL 

[bpoodoo]

I own a SDS battle spec helmet and I can say that the main complaint I and others have about it is the lean of the faceplate making the chin jut outwards.  This is almost entirely due to bad assembly.  Why SDS hasn't corrected their assembly technique in all these years I haven't a clue.  If you look in the profile view at the angle of the line of the top eye compared to the centerline of the cap and back, you'll see that it's a rather significant angle.  It should be closer to parallel.  This can be corrected but typically requires removing the screws and rivets from the helmet, locating and drilling new holes, possibly some trimming, and reassembly.  After about a month of looking at my battle spec with an underbite, I made this modification and it looks much better.  Still not as good as an RS, but better than it came out of the box.

[Locitus[Admin]]

Why SDS hasn't corrected their assembly technique in all these years I haven't a clue.

That is because they don't actually know what they are doing. Not at the same level as the experienced builders you find here on this forum. You can take anything they make and point out several mistakes that would only take an hour or two of browsing forums about each costume to find out how to do it correctly. But they don't bother with that.

[Tolo[TK]]

That is because they don't actually know what they are doing.

But, they are the "Orginals"

 

 

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[bpoodoo]

And I'm one of those newbies who read through the forums to figure out what I needed to do.  It took me longer than a couple of hours - but I learned a lot along the way.

 

Here's a couple of before and after pics of the modified battle spec:

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After comparing my helmet to reference pictures and watching my favorite movie again and again with freeze frame, I've come to the conclusion that if my battle spec is derived from something Original, it is from a Hero, not from a Stunt.  This has been speculated by others that this is the case for all the SDS trooper helmet line and I'm inclined to agree.  The contours and angles of the face between the tear and the frown as well as the shape of the tubes are different between Hero and Stunt.

 

You can't start with a mold derived from one and change details like number of teeth in the frown and flat or bubble lenses and convert one into another.  But I think that's what SDS has tried to do, and I think that's what I have - a Hero-derived helmet but with Stunt finishing features (4 teeth per side and flat lenses).  I'll call it a "Stero".

 

SDS doesn't claim the battle spec to be molded from original, but it is said to be derived from the SDS Stunt (which from appearances I think was also derived from a Hero).  And while it can be made to look a bit better, no amount of reassembly will make it into a purely Stunt-looking helmet.  In the RS you can definitely see that it inherently has the right look for a Stunt helmet.

 

For fun I took this same battle spec helmet and replaced the flat lenses with bubble lenses, and I applied white tape to the frown to make it appear to have 3 teeth per side, and here was the result... very hero-looking!

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[mikedwelle94[TK]]

Hmmm....for some reason I can't view these images. Am I alone?

[bpoodoo]

Google drive may not be the best thing to use for sharing images, but I thought I'd give it a try.   I have the share settings for these images appropriate such that anyone with the link can view the image without needing to sign into google, etc.  But it appears to be buggy.  Try this please - click on the link and then under the File menu is a down arrow - that should allow you to download and view the image.

[mikedwelle94[TK]]

That worked. Thanks!

(and a decent job on those mods, might I add.)

Edited March 17, 2014 by SolidScrafty

[CRISTONAMO]

The SDS Faceplate came one of the weird prototype helmets AA made after production when he used the weird ribbed cap n back. He never had an original cap n back in possession so he resculpted the prototype which is why the first SDS helmets had no bell shaped swoop botton on the cap n back. He later fixed this but it proves he had one original faceplate, which looks almost hero like. But no Cap n back

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[bpoodoo]

Ah thanks and this could also explain why the characteristic faceplate tilt is present if this was the prototype for the SDS line.  Having this tilt is the least resistance way to mate the two halves of the battle spec helmet.  As shown in the image below, the pieces do not match up well after repositioning so that the faceplate is more vertical.  Without proper trimming there can be excessive forces required to secure the two halves, risking cracking during reassembly or after.

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Edited January 16, 2021 by gmrhodes13
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