bjsavage7[TK] Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I just got my holster for my ROTJ build & was wondering if the length of the two attachment straps from below the belt to the top of the holster made any difference. Right now my straps are the same length as the ones we can see in ANH, but I've noticed in ROTJ, they seem to be quite a bit longer. Would this possibly be an issue for say, EIB, or Centurion? I'm fairly short, and can appreciate having shorter straps, so my blaster isn't down to my knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Well, the holsters in ROTJ do go down to their knees with the extra long straps. I don't know if having shorter straps would affect EIB or Centurion. As long as it is mounted to your right hip I can see any problems personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I don't see a problem with it either as long as it's proportionally correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjsavage7[TK] Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Cool! Thanks, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) wasn't 6.5 inches between belt and top of holster? so you'd add some at the bottom 3/4" and you'd need at least 2" at the top to meet the mid point of 2/5 inches? add that all up and you get 9 1/4"- 10" with room to attach it? the standard strap for anh is 4 1/4- 4.5"" with a one inch gap? big difference? how could we accept less for EIB or centurion? is the issue scale since you're shorter? then it would be smaller as mathias suggests Edited November 9, 2012 by TK Bondservnt 2392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Where are you getting all these numbers from? If the guy is short then use shorter straps. No point tripping over your holster for the sake of trying to be uber accurate when it is not practicle. Most of the ROTJ's didn't have a holster anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) the CRL used to specify 6.5 inch gap in the ROTJ. is this correct? from belt to top of holster... sure, scale is important! just like putting the holster on the belt, that also depends upon the waist size of the person. what would be the actual distance for a strap in the ROTJ format... do you have those numbers paul? Edited November 11, 2012 by TK Bondservnt 2392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrooperTim Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I'm glad to hear you're thinking about going EIB/Centurion with your ROTJ. There currently aren't too many who have achieved that. It doesn't seem like length is an issue with EIB/Centurion based on the CRLs, and I agree with what Mathias said. I would say have the holster go at least the length of the thigh piece. This shows they have long straps http://www.whitearmo...re-51jpg/large/ This shows the holster being close to the length of the thigh. Well, I think they're holsters and not shadows... http://www.whitearmo...re-22jpg/large/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) in those photos tim I noticed one thing! one of the things I notice is that all the ROTJ troopers appear to have their AB plate strapped OVER the top of the chest plate! if you look close... you can see it! makes me want to look at ROTJ closely again! Edited November 11, 2012 by TK Bondservnt 2392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopermaster Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I don't have any number to offer, but I can tell you the holster in that CRL photo looks ridiculous. It is far too long and really should go down to the bottom of your thigh armour at the most. I think the problem when trying to scale things is that most holsters are too big which is a bad starting point. I will look into it and give you some measurements when I have some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 this photo from the film looks pretty close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 But that holster has no belt loops. So what we can tell from all this is that ROTJ is a big mess and not much can be taken for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) ROTJ never had loops? the CRL photo does not have loops? you're the DO? wow? there has never been a question of loop in ROTJ? just distance and length of strap the CRL was changed cause someone just pasted the ANH stunt holster text in there only esb has loops! the photo can be taken for certain! Edited November 11, 2012 by TK Bondservnt 2392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Regardless of whether they had loops or not, since some wear holsters and some don't the hole issue is moot since not all of they had holsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) moot? ROTJ holster strap length? what is the cannon distance? 6.5 inches WAS in the CRL before! what is the deployed length? 4" what is the EIB and centurion standard? since holsters are required we have to re-establish this all over again? Edited November 11, 2012 by TK Bondservnt 2392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Also, whilst taking a look at ROTJ about the belt loops, which I'll admit I was wrong about (I do not know all the CRLs by heart mind you) I noticed that the strap lengths varied, which disproves your claims as well. Long straps Short straps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) I have no claim i'm asking questions and going by how the CRL used to be brother! so we could say 4.5- 6.5 inches? Edited November 11, 2012 by TK Bondservnt 2392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 And the CRL is a living document that changes and is not the absolute truth. Take it for what it is - Guidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 actually the CRL is supposed to be the deployment standards not just suggestions? like the law book we all go by for deployment? if it's just a suggestion then why do we deny deployment when it's not met? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 For the EIB programs yes. But since strap length is not specified then we have to estimate it. And there is always a bit of leeway even when deploying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 sounds good! we should specify the base short and long distances, put them in the CRL and change the photo of the holster in the ROTJ CRL to specify a ROTJ strap design! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 No, I don't think that's needed. It's a lot of work specifying something quite unimportant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) this is un-important? we have an ANH stunt holster pictured in the base CRL for the ROTJ trooper, and we don't show the correct strap variables? how is this possible? we change a photo, and some text. how is this "a lot of work" more a lack of work. Edited November 11, 2012 by TK Bondservnt 2392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 This is the holster pictured, and it sure is not as ANH as you you'd like to believe. Now stop whining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) you know mathias... that comment is just not called for. the holster shown above is not even correct for an ROTJ. it has tan showing on the strapping, and the straps are not long enough. whining? where does this come from...? I'm certainly not being rude to you?!!!!! the main reason the trooper in this thread asked the question in the first place is BECAUSE THE CRL does not have the correct information in it. Edited November 11, 2012 by TK Bondservnt 2392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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