Rich330[TK] Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) I have been watching ESB on my PC this morning, freezing individual frames for reference for my upcoming ESB armour build. Here are a few of the most interesting screen captures and some of the conclusions I've drawn for myself. There is a lot of evidence that when the ANH suits were touched up, some of the eye holes were cut back further for better vision. Some are clearly missing the characteristic "ANH bump" under the right eye. This next shot, however, seems to suggest there was a lot of variation. These two troopers certainly maintained their "bump". As a result, I will be keeping to the original ANH line on my helmet. Edited July 29, 2010 by Rick330 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330[TK] Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) I was looking at the next shots to see if I could shed some light on the "Humbrol 15 versus Humbrol 14" blue debate. There's no right or wrong here. These are just personal "conclusions" for my own build. Lots of variants which make it impossible for me to say anything authoritative on the matter. My screen settings, the software I'm using to capture these, the use of "auto levels", my eyes etc. etc. But these are my thoughts ... There are lot of shots from ANH which seem to suggest that a lighter blue was used on the abdomen buttons and that it was probably French Blue #14 rather than the darker #15. I have even got hold of some lighter blue (incidentally Revell 52 becasue I can't get Humbrol locally) specifically for my ANH build. However, when I look at my screen shots, I compare the blue of the stripes on the helmets and the blue on the ab buttons, and I have to say the blue on the abdomen buttons looks duller and maybe darker. So, in line with these shots, I'm going to use the darker Humbrol #15 on my ESB build. Remember these are shots from my PC, produced with my software, seen through my eyes and it's just one subjective opinion and one interpretation of 30 year old movie stills. In fact, is it possible that when the suits got a makeover for ESB that it was indeed Humbrol #15 which was used on what had originally been #14? The idea that it was #15 in the first place has to come from somewhere, right? I'd be interested to hear the opinions of those more informed. Edited July 29, 2010 by Rick330 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330[TK] Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Note also the trooper nearest the camera in the first picture in the above post. Lots of extra cutting on the eye hole and no longer evidence of the "bump". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330[TK] Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) Now just a couple of interesting "freaky" ones .... The trooper on the left of the shot below seems to have no ab buttons. Is he a recycled Sandtrooper? And look at this shot of a hand guard as a trooper grabs Chewy! That's some lazy trimming! Edited July 29, 2010 by Rick330 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330[TK] Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) Here are links to the full set in case they are of interest to anyone ... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-01a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-02a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-03a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-04a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-05a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-06a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-07a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-08a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-09a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-10a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-11a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-12a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-13a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-14a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/Untitled-15a-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/ESB/Untitled-16a-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/ESB/Untitled-17a-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/ESB/Untitled-18a-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/ESB/Untitled-19a-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/ESB/Untitled-20a-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/ESB/Untitled-21a-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ricvic/Stormtroopers/Reference/Film%20captures/ESB/ESB/Untitled-22a-1.jpg Edited July 29, 2010 by Rick330 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeR Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) Here is a cool shot from the RPF: Check out the bendy armour, makes me want to see the new TM Flexible Armour. Joe Edited March 27, 2010 by JoeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIVE[501st] Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Thanks for the pics Richard! A lot of the things you pointed out have been talked about before, but that's some good observations! Isn't it amazing how long ESB can take to watch when you're obsessing over every detail? haha Of course StarWarsHelmets.com has a great page all about the ESB troopers. And, TK-4510 is THE place to get decals that are accurate in every detail... INCLUDING color! Look forward to your build man! If you count doing my blaster and getting my holster I've already started mine. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIVE[501st] Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 This page has all about the color... scroll down a ways and you'll find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330[TK] Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Look forward to your build man! If you count doing my blaster and getting my holster I've already started mine. haha Well, I have the blaster too. But that's it so far. Rest is on order. And I have the small matter of an ANH build to complete beforehand. But there's nothing like forward planning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray1134[501st] Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Now just a couple of interesting "freaky" ones .... The trooper on the left of the shot below seems to have no ab buttons. Is he a recycled Sandtrooper? Most likely the ab plate just fell off on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330[TK] Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Most likely the ab plate just fell off on this one. I think you're right. Looking more closely, it seems the single row of buttons is intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebladejedi[TK] Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Dont forget when comparing ab plate button colours with tube stripes in Empire the tube stripes were decals and not painted..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330[TK] Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Dont forget when comparing ab plate button colours with tube stripes in Empire the tube stripes were decals and not painted..... You're quite right of course, Mark. And decals are definitely going to be used for the helmet (i.e. no ANH-style hand painting). Mind you, it doesn't really matter what material it is. The point was just that the ab buttons in my screen shots look dark/dull to me in comparison to the blue of the tube stripes. As a result, I think I'm going to get closer to this effect by using the darker blue Humbrol paint I have rather than the lighter Revell. As for the tube stripes colour, I'm just trusting Mike on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmian Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 As for the tube stripes colour, I'm just trusting Mike on this one. And you're right in doing that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Batman[TK] Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Wow thanks for posting those- there are some great shots there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthChridan[TK] Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) Guys...that was 30 years ago...puuh...kids, as years go by Cool pix... Edited April 4, 2010 by DarthChridan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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