Rich330

Looks like we're going to get moving on this. Mathias has asked me for photos of my "Endor Stunt" armour for revised CRLs. I'll post them here ...

Back: Front: Me: 1.72m / 5'8" in height and still made it work ....

Great build and great build thread, Morten. One slight adjustment I think you should make .... I would like to see you work on the connection between the chest and abdomen & back and kidney respectively. The back overlaps and ideally it should not overlap at all. The originals were connected in such a way that it was impossible for them to overlap. Work on this. Shorten the elastic connecting these parts and get the two parts to align flush with no overlap. At the front, the same thing applies. The chest should overlap a little but quite a bit less than yours does. You may not need to adjust anything at the front once you've sorted out the back as the entire lower part of the assembly will shift downwards. There's no reason for you to have the armour scrunched up in a small zone in the middle of your body. You're a tall chap yo you can spread it out better. Doing this will also close up the gap between the groin area and your thighs. I see a little too much black at the moment. A quick easy fix but it will improve your authentic TK look a lot.

If that's the right bicep, I think that's in pretty much the right place, yes.

Here you go, some originals ...

No, it's not in the middle. It's on the outer edge in place which is very difficult to describe. I haven't got any good pictures of the originals but I think I got it roughly right on my RS build. On the originals it's wide elastic (around 50mm) ... I wouldn't rush in and use my photos as the perfect template. Maybe ask Paul if he has some pictures of his builds. He'll know better how to position it than me. In the meantime, I'll see if I can find photos in the LFL archive stuff.

There was no direct connection between the shoulder bells and the biceps on the original armour. Some suits had a hook on the biceps to hang on the elastic on the inside of the shoulder bells (see the picture of Han below) but there was no internal strap connecting these pieces. I'm quite short and don't connect the biceps to the shoulder bells in any way at all. The forearm part and the biceps part are connected but other than that, they are left free-floating. It's authentic this way fully functional. I find there is no need to fasten the biceps at a certain height. Your hand prevents the forearm armour from slipping over your wrist - the forearm armour prevents the biceps armour from slipping down over your elbow .... so, hear the word of the Lord ... Me in various TM suits with no connection from the shoulder bell to the biceps: RS, same story ...

Been there, done that, bought the t-shucks!

Don't worry, you'll be very glad of a bit of air flow through the gaps when you are wearing the helmet. Air circulates through the frown and eye sockets and prevents misting.

I nearly bought a Rubies for the exact same reason, i.e. I thought I would not be able to build my own and wanted something pre-assembled. A couple of weeks on the forum and I had found enough information to give me the confidence to tackle my own assembly. 2 years down the line you can't stop me .... ----------- Contact the UK Garrison. Probably the Garrison with the greatest number of strormtroopers and the highest quality level. They also throw regular armour parties with a number of experienced builders on hand to take you through your build or even do a lot of it themselves.

Many, many thanks, Paul. In the couple of years I've been posting here, I have seen the FISD grow tremendously. I can only imagine how much change you saw and implemented over the full five years. At the same time, the forum always managed to remain a largely friendly and civil place. In general the FISD has probably been the most useful and helpful forum for me personally for any of my hobbies. Congratulations, Mason. It takes cojones to take on the post and I'm sure you will do an excellent job. Commiserations, Mike. Well done for putting yourself forward and for a very good return of votes.

That seriously needs addressing. It doesn't help you much now, but I included direct reference to overlapping seams in my proposals for the new CRL/EIB/Centurion requirements. Maybe after the election is out of the way, the new detachment leader can tackle this and we can have a vote on my suggestions.

Haha, thanks. My old faithful.

Thanks.

You copied shins and thighs finished in the style of an original suit from Episode IV or Episode V. The ROTJ suits did not have butt joints with strips on the outide. The seams overlapped and had no outer strips. My ROTJ build: http://forum.whitearmor.net/index.php?showtopic=16442&hl=&fromsearch=1 My further ROTJ research and proposals: http://forum.whitearmor.net/index.php?showtopic=17213&hl=&fromsearch=1

I don't know whether it's possible to remedy it at this stage, but outer finishing strips on the limb parts was also an inappropirate choice for ROTJ. I don't know whether they're appropriate for Incinerators Troopers or not (I don't even really know what and Incinerator Trooper is).

In summary ... ... the helmets selected for filming ESB typically had full eye cuts without much "flashing". ... However, it is unlikely that this was the result of extra trimming. Many of the helmets were trimmed like this already for the original Star Wars film and it just happened (*) to be these helmets which were selected for ESB. Fair assessment? (*) I'd wager a guess though that the selection was in part deliberate based on the condition of the eyes, i.e. the rough-trimmed helmets with a lot of flashing were quite possibly regarded as less desirable and discarded. Who knows?

The helmet on the right of the picture as we look at it is the TM.

Nice work, Jens.

The guys from Sonic Youth say "congratulations"!

There weren't that many Hero helmets and this one is one kept in the Lucas archives. It's as good a reference as any.