james007bond[TK] Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Hi Guys, Those who know me on UKG, know that I'm currently building my AP lid. However, i've come across a small issue upon which I need clarity.. When I bolt on the faceplate to the cap, my face plate is off centre. I know the lid is assemtrical, but should the faceplate not be completely square or is this a feature of the AP mold....? Also it appears that the Cap itself is not completely symmetrical from the top... i.e., it kinda curves more in one direction... I think this is why the face plate is off centre... Anyway, the trapezoids on both left and right temples pretty much line up with the edge of the eyes... so am I being too paranoid? Thanks Here are the pics.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebladejedi[TK] Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 HI Shiv you have the lid put together correctly from what i can see. These lids are assymetrical in design having screen lineage, the ap is more cleaned up than some other available helmets. You will notice once the ears are fitted the lid will look more normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK 6918[501st] Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 It's normal. The ears will make it come together. and once you put the helmet on your head, people won't know its not symmetrical. Enjoy your new lid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Thanks Guys I've bolted on the ears.... and it actually does look much better....phew... I can't believe how small the head hole is...... jeeez I can just about get my melon through it.... Tomorrow I will cut and sand away the bottom of the lid.... Any tips appreciated... If anyone can add some pics of the bottom of their AP lid, this will help me..... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Oh, i've lowered the brow a bit..... it nearly looks like a hero but in Stunt Config.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebladejedi[TK] Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 I have found the Ap lid to be one of the smallest, just use the curved trimming scissors to cut a little more off the neck hole or a knife and score and snap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Hey Mark, will do... I think i'll use the trimming scissors as I have more control there.... I was gonna ask, what about the face plate, do people actually trim that back more? I could probably quite easily trim about 1/2cm towards the bottom of the vocoder and hovi tubes...... dunno, what do ou think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebladejedi[TK] Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Post up a pic of the underside neck hole if you wish, but you can take a little from everywhere or where you think you need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 One more thing, is my bumpy eye ok, or should I open it up a bit more? I've seen so many pics from starwarshelmets to the build threads on here that I can't decide whether to leave the bump as is or sand it down a wee bit more hence opening up the eye? As this is not an exact science comments from fellow troopers are appreciated... Mark, will trim off the back of the neck first and then take it from there.... I will make sure that at least I have a clean cut hole all around so-to-speak.... I'll post up pictures sometime tomorrow or more likely Monday when I'll get round to doing more work on the lid... thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebladejedi[TK] Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 I think the eyes look ok to me, maybe wait until its all finished and wear it a couple of times before you decide to sand them any more.. its upto you at the end of the day mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Hi Mark I've taken a cm off around the neck line and about 0.5cm off at the chin line. What do you think, should I take another 0.5cm off the chin line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebladejedi[TK] Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Hi Mark I've taken a cm off around the neck line and about 0.5cm off at the chin line. What do you think, should I take another 0.5cm off the chin line? If the helmet fits leave as is, if you still cant get your head in trim off some more. Simples dont forget these more accurate helmets need to be put on at 90' and then spun round like a screw top, so whatever you do you can never get them on facing forward... so dont over do it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 OK boss.... can still get my melon on and it's comfortable.... even with the neckseal... I've just painted the teeth.... that's a milestone in my helmet build... Gonna let the paint dry and put another coat on tomorrow.... perhaps... So far no painted lip syndrome...... yeah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2155TK[TK] Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 seems you drilled multiple holes on the lower left side of the helmet. i also made those mistakes good thing it was on the faceplate side so it was hidden even without the ears. nice job so far bro! keep us posted with more pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yatia Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Looking great Shiv! Need to get in touch regarding my Armour today, was hoping it'd be hear by now... Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 seems you drilled multiple holes on the lower left side of the helmet. i also made those mistakes good thing it was on the faceplate side so it was hidden even without the ears. nice job so far bro! keep us posted with more pics! Yup, it's known as the swiss cheese effect... and yes the ears will hide them....thank God... I was trying too hard to get the ears married up as I foolishly trimmed the ears first thinking that I knew what I ws doing. It's just a shame this is an AP lid I trialled on... hehe I do have some replacement ears being sent to me, just in case though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Gents, AP lid has gone to the dentist today to have his teeth done..... The pictures show how I angled the teeth to follow the lines of the lid/lips... This is what took a lot of time with a needle file... Vocoder next... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Ok Guys, I can't decide where to put the black marks on the ears.. I've been looking at reference and build pictures..... the general consensus seems to be a black mark on the end of the ear vertical (on both sides), whilst other's have gone for a central mark (on both sides) as per the original troops on the Tantive IV. What gives? thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebladejedi[TK] Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 A picture says a thousand words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargas[501st] Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 as a side question.... anyone knows what this marks stand for?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well, it looks like it's a black mark on the end then...... Just painted the vocoder this evening....... boy oh boy..... it's not easy to do.... Will post up a pic later.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yatia Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 You're not filling me with much confidence for my upcoming build Shiv! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Ian, you'll be fine buddy.... there are many good tutorials on this site.... Follow them religously and you'll be fine.... OK Guys, here's the vocoder... what a pain it was to paint that.. :shock: Anyway, here's what i've done..... Just the hovis to do now.... yeah Oh and the blaster.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VacTrooper Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 NICE work on that! Really Sharp-looking, there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james007bond[TK] Posted August 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Thanks Alex.... It was nerve racking filing those teeth at he correct angle and then putting paint to plastic.... I was in a Hobbycraft shop for over 30mins just looking at the correct paint brushes to buy.... Anyway, i'm nearly there..... just have to paint the black border around the ears, put on the ear stripes (still deciding), mesh the frown and cut/mount my welders shield for the lens and then do the hovis... Then it's taking a few pictures and submitting them to my local GML for clearence..... Oh once done, then it's over here for EIB status as I have everything in place for that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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