Rogue One CRL renamed to Non-Saga

[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

Greetings Troopers,

 

In line with some other CRL naming the Stormtrooper - Rogue One CRL has now been renamed to Stormtrooper - Non-Saga.

 

This will bring the CRL in line with other detachments and also allow us to consolidate the uses of the armour from Rogue One, Andor and Kenobi, as well as any future uses, meaning we will not need multiple nearly identical CRLs with trivial differences.

 

There's some wording that still references Rogue One, this will be addressed in time.

 

https://crls.501st.com/fisd/stormtrooper-non-saga

 

 

[SlyFox740[TK]]

I’ve always just referred to it as “Disney-Era” which sounds a bit better to me but whatever this works well too and more importantly doesn’t use a company name!

Anyways, I’ve updated the title of the Rogue One Blaster Reference thread to reflect these changes; R1 / Non-Saga BLASTER REFERENCE

 

 

Edited April 18 by SlyFox740

[Sly11[Admin]]

It wasn't my first choice either, but Legion made the decision on all CRL's not part of the original saga to become Non Saga.

 

[SlyFox740[TK]]

Yea that’s what I figured, makes sense I guess; anything that falls outside of the Skywalker Saga. Not in terms of timeline of course, but quite literally anything not in Episode 1-9.

 

The stormtroopers in the Obi-Wan Kenobi show will fall under this CRL and even though the events of that show are directly connected to the Skywalker Saga, just like Rogue One the Kenobi series is still a separate thing at the end of the day.

Edited April 21 by SlyFox740

[jsilvius[Staff]]

I fought against it. There were so many other better names, but once Legion had their minds made up....

[SlyFox740[TK]]

Apparently not all CRLs; https://crls.501st.com/mepd/jedha-sandtrooper-rogue-one

That’s just plain inconsistent, this is the exact same armor with added accessories. Not to mention they also appear in SOLO and Andor as well which would be “Non-Saga”.

Edited April 20 by SlyFox740

[Sly11[Admin]]

I'll ask, can't hurt right!

[Hask[IPM]]

8 hours ago, SlyFox740 said:

Apparently not all CRLs; https://crls.501st.com/mepd/jedha-sandtrooper-rogue-one

That’s just plain inconsistent, this is the exact same armor with added accessories. Not to mention they also appear in SOLO and Andor as well which would be “Non-Saga”.

Can you show examples of Sand Troopers in Solo and Andor?

[SlyFox740[TK]]

On 4/20/2026 at 10:47 AM, Hask said:

Can you show examples of Sand Troopers in Solo and Andor?

I don’t have time to hunt down every example right now but I assure you they are in there.

These photos of Crystal Patrol Troopers are from the spaceport on Corellia in SOLO, and can clearly be spotted in the movie!

Some of the Mimban Troopers even wore the Crystal Patrol Duty packs in SOLO too!

Here is a quick example of a Sandtrooper with a “Sandtrooper Type 4 Field Pack”  from Andor Season1,Episode7. (At 31:27)

And I believe there are even more in Season2 as the Empire has a much bigger presence.

 

Edited April 21 by SlyFox740

[SlyFox740[TK]]

On 4/20/2026 at 3:44 AM, Sly11 said:

I'll ask, can't hurt right!

Years ago I tried to explain the potential problem with using specific locations in CRL Names to MEPD command staff, but they didn’t listen. And now my original point still stands; these Sandtroopers show up on more planets than just “Jedha” which I totally foreseen happening. We don’t call TDs “Tatooine Sandtroopers” do we? No, and there’s obviously a good reason for that!

Edited April 21 by SlyFox740

[Hask[IPM]]

The Solo reference looks Ike a TK/Mimban with a pack that cant be seen from the back but are still not Sand Troopers. The Andor certainly can't be seen as anything more than a black blob.

 

 

[Sly11[Admin]]

So if they aren't TD's, then why are they not ours!

 

And with these puppies in Mado&Grogu, called Stormtroopers, then there is all the more reason they should live here.

 

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1389454283218580&id=100064620646873&rdid=7IT4ozGw7F70JiaY

[SlyFox740[TK]]

Hask, I cant make much sense of what you’re saying?

The SOLO references I posted are 100% confirmed to be Crystal Patrol Duty Packs, both in the spaceport on Corellia and on Mimban.
Really unsure what you meant?…

Several troopers including myself argued these packs belonged with FISD as an optional accessory but the legion ultimately decided the they belong with MEPD.

Edited April 24 by SlyFox740

[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

On 4/21/2026 at 4:19 PM, SlyFox740 said:

These photos of Crystal Patrol Troopers are from the spaceport on Corellia in SOLO, and can clearly be spotted in the movie!

 

We had a trooper asking about these recently. IMO they are the same as the Jedha Sandtrooper - Rogue One with a crystal patrol duty pack. Looking at the CRL it's probably weathered close to what this screen cap is showing. So IMO there's not really a need for a 2nd CRL, there already is one.  The MEPD DL agreed with me, I think a simple rename to be more generic would do it but @Hask might know better.

[Hask[IPM]]

On 4/22/2026 at 10:30 AM, Sly11 said:

So if they aren't TD's, then why are they not ours!

 

And with these puppies in Mado&Grogu, called Stormtroopers, then there is all the more reason they should live here.

 

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1389454283218580&id=100064620646873&rdid=7IT4ozGw7F70JiaY

 

On 4/22/2026 at 2:29 PM, SlyFox740 said:

Hask, I cant make much sense of what you’re saying?

The SOLO references I posted are 100% confirmed to be Crystal Patrol Duty Packs, both in the spaceport on Corellia and on Mimban.
Really unsure what you meant?…

Several troopers including myself argued these packs belonged with FISD as an optional accessory but the legion ultimately decided the they belong with MEPD.

I'm saying show me where the ones in Solo or Mimban are Sandtroopers? No sand on those planets. Show me where it's confirmed 100% they are the packs as the references you posted don't.

[SlyFox740[TK]]

I already stated I’m not hunting down all the references out there I’ve provided plenty enough for my liking thank you, if you want to believe they are anything else aside from Crystal Patrol Duty packs be my guest I really couldn’t* care less what you think.  If you require more confirmation it’s easy enough to find for yourself. Either way, be at peace.

And for the record I argued that Crystal Patrol Duty troopers were NOT Sandtroopers with MEPD command staff for months, alas they got them in the end; https://forum.mepd.net/index.php?/topic/15462-crystal-patrol-field-pack-discussion-topic/#findComment-198834
However I always believed they were stormtroopers and that they belong here with FISD and I still do, just as they are called “Stormtroopers” in all the printed media and promotional material, let alone the action figure for the character.

So you’re preaching to the choir in that regard! I’m on your side and I agree they are stormtroopers NOT sandtroopers, however MEPD disagrees which is the only reason I ever referred to them as such. But I personally believe and maintain that they are Stomtroopers to this day!

Edited May 9 by SlyFox740
Grammatical Typo

[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

I'm of the opinion they are ALL Stormtroopers, but that argument sailed many years before I was here.

 

The rough issue, for me anyway, is it's silly to have a duplicate CRL. The troopers in Solo, to me, appear to be identical to the ones in Rogue One. That CRL was created as the Jedha Sandtrooper - Rogue One CRL If you look at the above TOPPS reference, and the CRL they aren't sandy. Just lightly dirty but Jeddah has brown dirt.

So it boils down to how to square that: 

1. The Jeddah is the one we go with as it already exists, maybe rename it as it appears to be the same troopers in Solo.
2. We add optional parts to the Non-Saga CRL, for the pack and saying if you have the pack you need a pauldron. Doesn't cover the dirt though, most NS have mild dirt though to be fair.
3. Whole new CRL but that feels way too far.

Personally, not overly sure why this is even a thing: there is a CRL build it and go have fun. But if you can sell me (and Kris as LMO need to buy in too) on why FISD needs this then I am happy to listen.

[jsilvius[Staff]]

My argument has been if Stormtrooper shaped, why isn't it FISD. 

But it seems that MEPD has grabbed anything that is dirty, and SpecOps has grabbed anything that isn't white.

[Hask[IPM]]

The correct term is could NOT care less what you think. However you should as bottom line I control what does or does not go into a CRL. However what I'm not understanding is if FISD Wants a backpack on a non saga TK then provide the references and request it. The MEPD got the Sandtroopers from Rogue one which is a completely separate thing to the TKs in Solo.

[themaninthesuitcase[Admin]]

22 hours ago, Hask said:

the Sandtroopers from Rogue one which is a completely separate thing to the TKs in Solo.

See I am looking and basically see the same thing. NS TK, bit of dirt, pouldron, crystal backpack.

Why have 2 CRLs that covers that exact same thing? Okay we could ague the toss on what "bit of dirt" means but it's not factory fresh, most NS suits I can remember have a lived in feel.

[Hask[IPM]]

I'm not talking about a whole new CRL I'm saying adding the pack as an option. I've just looked at Solo and the armour in the terminal looks clean to me.