buccaneer[TK] Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Dear Detachment EIB/Centurion Selection Officers, I have been a TK since June 2016. Since then I have participated in 10 trooping days with the Indonesia Outpost. On Indonesia Comic Con 2016 trooping at 1-2 October 2016, I encountered stairways to go up the stage with about 30cm high steps. That proved to be a challenged for me wearing my armor. I am a stormtrooper and would like to keep my stormtrooper dignity going up and down the stage (without having minders hold my hand). For future troopings, I would like to improve my mobility by cutting out armor parts. But I also would like to attain EIB and Centurion status in the future. Hence I am writing to you to seek approval to my proposed armor parts cutting. Please view my photos.... Left leg rear view with problem area circled. I can hear the plastics clashing. Left leg front view with problem area circled. The upper thigh is stabbing me. Right leg rear view with problem area circled. Right leg front view with problem area circled. Upper thigh is stabbing me. My proposal: Cut out the return edges at the rear of the lower thighs and upper shin rear as per the red lines above. Upper thighs to be cut with curve shape about 1 inch from the top pointy edges that stab me. As for my forearms. They are too long. I proposed to cutout the inside of the forarms towards the elbow bends so that the forearms can move to the elbow bends. See the forearms are covering part of the handguards. Left forearm to be cut at the red curved line 1inch deep from the edge so the forearm can move back per the red arrow to show more handguard. Right forearm to be cut along the red curved line about 1 inch deep from the edge so that the forearm can move per the arrow to show more handguard. Please approve the above proposed cut. If not approved, please redraw on the picture the allowed cut with different color line. Thank you for your time and consideration. Much appreciated, Hubert TK22807 Edited August 28, 2021 by buccaneer removed some pics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze[TK] Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Interestingly enough, I've done the exact things you're proposing here, plus also trimming the inner side of forearms where the wrist bends inwards. Sure, everyone's different, but I'm 5'10 and 190, and for me not doing these types of cuts and refinements made me feel like I was the rusty tinman. Now, I haven't yet submitted my set and gotten EIB or Centurion but will be surprised (and disappointed) if this excludes eligibility. I've been doing final armor fittings the past several weeks and have been doing all this to the pieces in order to get the range of motion, mobility, and comfort I'd deem acceptable and to make a look that looks super fitted. TL;DR: In the same boat, doing the same things, hoping for the same answer (being ok to do). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Check out the backs of my thigh/shins, Centurion approved: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/39147-tk-20466-requesting-anh-stunt-centurion-status-ap/ Some pictures on where/how much I cut in my build thread: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/37704-alays-anh-stunt-build-ap-first-build/page-8#entry516898 This was done by some actors in the movies too: The other two (tops of thighs/forearms) I'm not sure about, but as part of the Centurion/EIB requirements is fitting I'd assume that reasonable adjustments for wearing and fitting would be okay. I'd wait for someone more knowledgeable than me to chime in though! Edited October 21, 2016 by Alay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze[TK] Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I'd hope that trimming the tops of thighs such that you can actually kneel or walk up/down stairs comfortable is ok. Likewise, trimming the forearms so you can actually holster your blaster, or take your helmet off, etc. Before I trimmed out the wrists some on the forearms I literally couldn't put my helmet on myself there was not enough inward motion allowed by the hand, or bending the elbow inwards too for that matter (hence my tinman reference). I've seen some builds where the top points of the thigh sit so high and with all that return edge I really wonder much range of motion there is in their legs, outside of light walking strides. Anyway, just my own personal observation after struggling with perfecting range of motion myself lately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magni[TK] Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 The only thing that I would recommend is cutting the backs with a crescent shape rather then square. The center is the main pinch point correct? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buccaneer[TK] Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Check out the backs of my thigh/shins, Centurion approved: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/39147-tk-20466-requesting-anh-stunt-centurion-status-ap/ Some pictures on where/how much I cut in my build thread: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/37704-alays-anh-stunt-build-ap-first-build/page-8#entry516898 This was done by some actors in the movies too: The other two (tops of thighs/forearms) I'm not sure about, but as part of the Centurion/EIB requirements is fitting I'd assume that reasonable adjustments for wearing and fitting would be okay. I'd wait for someone more knowledgeable than me to chime in though! Thanks for sharing your pics and build thread. Very informative, pictures speak a thousand words. I like the inside of your helmet. Congrats on your Centurion status. Is your DLT19 from Hyperfirm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buccaneer[TK] Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Interestingly enough, I've done the exact things you're proposing here, plus also trimming the inner side of forearms where the wrist bends inwards. Sure, everyone's different, but I'm 5'10 and 190, and for me not doing these types of cuts and refinements made me feel like I was the rusty tinman. Now, I haven't yet submitted my set and gotten EIB or Centurion but will be surprised (and disappointed) if this excludes eligibility. I've been doing final armor fittings the past several weeks and have been doing all this to the pieces in order to get the range of motion, mobility, and comfort I'd deem acceptable and to make a look that looks super fitted. TL;DR: In the same boat, doing the same things, hoping for the same answer (being ok to do). Hope you get your EIB and Centurion status too. We're in the same boat. Thanks for your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buccaneer[TK] Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 The only thing that I would recommend is cutting the backs with a crescent shape rather then square. The center is the main pinch point correct? Thanks for your input. Ok will cut the back of lower thighs and upper shins in crescent shape. Yes, center is the main pinch point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buccaneer[TK] Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I'd hope that trimming the tops of thighs such that you can actually kneel or walk up/down stairs comfortable is ok. Likewise, trimming the forearms so you can actually holster your blaster, or take your helmet off, etc. Before I trimmed out the wrists some on the forearms I literally couldn't put my helmet on myself there was not enough inward motion allowed by the hand, or bending the elbow inwards too for that matter (hence my tinman reference). I've seen some builds where the top points of the thigh sit so high and with all that return edge I really wonder much range of motion there is in their legs, outside of light walking strides. Anyway, just my own personal observation after struggling with perfecting range of motion myself lately. Yeah. At this point in time, i have to be helped in putting my armor on because of limited range of mobility. I would like to be able to button my shoulder bell, hooking my thermal detonator myself. All these stuff I have to ask favors in changing room due to limited mobility. Thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alay[TK] Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Thanks for sharing your pics and build thread. Very informative, pictures speak a thousand words. I like the inside of your helmet. Congrats on your Centurion status. Is your DLT19 from Hyperfirm? Thanks! And it is a Hyperfirm. I absolutely love it; it's sturdy enough that it has a decent weight to it, looks accurate enough for trooping, and it's rubber so I can let kids hold it for a picture without worrying about it getting broken. Also makes something great to lean against on longer troops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novak Dimon[TK] Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Hi, the cuts at the rear of your thighs are absolutely no problem. They are definitely screen accurate. All the other points are no problem as well if you perform them as marked. If you cut the forearms make sure the outer side is not coming too high. Most troopers cut the lower side instead. For Centurion the return edges have to be removed anyway and the number of squares is not defined. <br> Cheers <br> Christian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buccaneer[TK] Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Hi, the cuts at the rear of your thighs are absolutely no problem. They are definitely screen accurate. All the other points are no problem as well if you perform them as marked. If you cut the forearms make sure the outer side is not coming too high. Most troopers cut the lower side instead. For Centurion the return edges have to be removed anyway and the number of squares is not defined. <br> Cheers <br> Christian Thank you Novak Dimon for the input. I will proceed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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