Felice Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Hi, sometimes we make some crazy things:-) build armors out of plastic, look at references to make the best molds ever or build our own blaster from scratch. I think that's really crazy. BUT WE LOVE IT!!! This time i decide to refurbish my M38 scope. The condition was not really bad but i liked to make a scope for a "black" E11 blaster. That's crazy too because i'm a boy out of the sand and i love weathered things...Oh yes, i can hear some guys out of my speaker: WHAT DID YOU MAKE???? The original color..and so on and so on. Yes, i did it: And here are some pics...i hope you enjoy it:-) The beginning You know the movie The Blob?? I said the condition is good... First results (looks like a picture out of an british antique magazine:-) And here the whole parts of an complete M38 scope So that's it. Now the scope is in a paint removing bath. The screws are in an other bath, like C3PO on Tatooine...you know the picture! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannick Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Brave man... I wouldn't dare taking my M38 apart... Good luck. And be careful! That's a treasure right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The5thHorseman[TK] Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 The color under the black looks much more like burnished gold than what i thought! Cool share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm very careful Jannick;-) And yes Germain it' gold under the black cote...but that's not the end my friends;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Batman[501st] Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Is this where we guess how many screws or parts you have left over when you put it back together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaeatt2 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 AWESOME!!! I did a similar disassembly and cleaning, but didn't strip the original paint. What do you intend to use to replace the original black sealer (especially noticeable around the edges of the front lens assembly)? I used black gasket maker/RTV, but wondered if there might be a better material for this. Can't wait to see it finished!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Is this where we guess how many screws or parts you have left over when you put it back together? LoL. I'm laying claim to 3 right now. There are always 2 when you're talking Sith Lords, but there are always an odd number of parts left over, like one bolt and two nuts. On-Topic: This is awesome to have a look at. Many thanks for doing this and sharing it, Felix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Looking good nice work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) I just have to keep my kids away from tray Thanks guys! The cleaning process is finished... And yes Aaron that's the master question! Today i will start the research to find the right perhaps a special weapon/gun color..... EDIT: haha...found two colors for weapon coating: Cerakote and Duracoat. Both 2-k colors and both toooooooooooo expensive! 60-80$ for ONE spray can..... So i think i will use "normal" 2-K varnish. It seems to be that a good black color tone is RAL 9021 Edited May 22, 2014 by Felice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Whats about burnishing? Is anybody out there who has experience with this technique? It's possible to make hot or cold burnishing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 No worries friends...this one i will never touch (and at the moment it's nonmarketable) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 And now the hengstler...this result was most surprising for me! Used look After polishing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaeatt2 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 You polished all the protective cadmium plating off, but it won't matter if you intend to paint it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) It will be paint at the end of the day;) but i think it looks great... Edited May 23, 2014 by Felice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The5thHorseman[TK] Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Damn Felix, where the hell do you find all these? That M19... looks awesome!! And so the hengstler does too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Oh...a long searching time:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark PWF[Staff] Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Beautiful pieces, Felix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkno Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Interesting topic! Congrats on the courage to clean up the paint on the M38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Thanks:) And now the polishing procedure is finished And the whole family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaeatt2 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Wow! That looks really nice and you're doing a great job polishing, even in the difficult areas. What's the final goal? To smooth out the scope body, then paint? I would be worried about paint adhesion after all the polishing. Usually, you would want to "rough up" a glossy surface to give the paint something to grip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 My goal is a scope "out of the box"...means a "new scope". So the only technique i know is burnishing. Or special gun color like guncote. But this color is quite expensive....any other suggestions? Normal 2 k spray color with an 2k coat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaeatt2 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) Factory finishes involve special products to provide durability and chemical resistance, especially for mechanical parts. GunKote is baked into the metal. Normal gun bluing involves baking in salts and is essentially a form of controlled rust which acts as a protective coating to prevent further oxidation. Cold bluing is a chemical reaction which also produces controlled rust. All of these treatments are durable because there's something happening at the molecular level in the base metal. Paint is just a surface coating. 2K or epoxy paint is much tougher, but it's still just paint, which can be scratched or chipped. The body of a scope doesn't experience any kind of mechanical wear or rubbing like trigger parts. It also doesn't get cleaned and oiled regularly like the internal parts of a gun. Scopes just get an occasional external wipe down. I think every one of these M19/M38/M40 scopes shows some kind of cosmetic wear (brass showing) since they've been around for a long time. If they were originally treated with something like Gunkote or bluing, I don't think you'd see as many with exposed brass. In other words, a factory coating like Gunkote probably would have lasted much longer without wearing away. IMHO, I think the scope body was just painted with a regular black paint. I might be wrong - I haven't researched it. For a prop or replica which won't experience severe duty, I think 2K paint will look just fine, if you can apply it thin enough. Of course, your ultimate choice for a thin, durable finish would be GunKote or DuraCoat. You get what you pay for. Interested to see how you finish!!! Edited May 24, 2014 by usaeatt2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Nice Aaron!!! Yes, i know the chemical reactions of burnishing. We have a gunsmith just a few km away...i will ask him what the best technique is to color a scope. I Think for a scope you don't need the normal gun bluing...but i don't really know it. I ask him because it seems that I NEED an expert for this special question:-) But thanks again Aaron for your short wrap up! Cheers, Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted May 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I was the wron customer for my gunsmith:-( not buying a gun just coming with an old scope...his face said: no business. LOL thats Germany. BUT: he said that guncote or duracote doesn't fit to an historical scope and he is right. So i ordered a special metal coat and a 2k acrylic black color...for 50€ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felice Posted June 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Some progress....i'm happy:-) I am the cake boss!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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