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Simply that,..... Matt must be a fake! He doesnt have anything and is nothing more than a front counter man selling someone elses stuff. I am thinking that this whole TE thing is a big lie. Heck maybe even Gino has nothing more than a mold and a thin GF suit to show off. Hmmm???

Paul, can you share with us what reference photos you used to make this awesome armor? Also would you be willing to show us you work area and current molds?

I have a few questions... 1. It may seem rude but I gotta ask. How much did you pay for it??? Whats a suit like that worth now??/ 2. Can you post detailed pics of the inside strapping? 3. How is the belt attached? 4. what materials did they use for the belt 5. Where did you get the opportunity to own this bad an impolite person armor??? 6. What rubber trim is used for the neck of the helmet? 7. If I give you my email address will you take about 200 pics of this thing and burn it onto a CD for me and send it to me????? I will pay postage!! 8. Oh and are there any rivets on the bottom side of the chest plate and lower back like the ANH armors???

I bet you dont have any pics of "Mikes" molds do you TE? Hey who does your vac forming anyway???

Edgar would know He has the nicest job in disneyland!

They dont have any pics. They probably dont even know how to vac form. They are just hood mantles for someone else. Thats why they never cough up any proof of ever having worked on anything. I think we are talking to the wrong guys. I bet Dave and Mike have all the proof and pics to show, but Gino and Matt musta had em killed off

Then get GF to show the pics. I really dont care about the debate.... just wanna see pics PICS!

Well......I say if they are sooooooooo special and nooooooooobody has em' then offer one up to blow us away and show that it may even be worth it.

ooooooooooooh slobber

I am very thankful that Matt and Gino have offered up info that some or all us have been wanting to know. I think this is the first thread that has held together long enoough to actually be usefull. We have gotten quite far in the first 10 pages. Now comes the more personal questions to answer though. 1. Where did the ROTJ molds come from? Did you stumble onto them at a yard sale somewhere? Was there an insider who got them to you for only a few days and you had to return them? Did you take out a second on the house and pay hard cash for them. Did someone throw away what they did not know they had? Whaaa??? 2. When exaclty were the molds made? Lets get a nice timeline of Verson 1 and...... 3. Are there pics of the first completed suit?........Pics to show the progress. 4. Does anyone know how to get ahold of "Dave", "Mike", and "Gerardo" for their opinoins and what not? Does anyone have GF's person email? I used to have it because I stumbled onto his website once. PM me and I will send him an invite. Same goes for the others behind this armor Dave and Mike....They need to speak up as well. Dont let this thread die like 100 others before it. Lets get down to it and talk about what makes this armor soooooooooooo special. There's no sense in keeping anything a secret. I found the old page with Matts armor and ROTJ helmet on it.. http://www.angelfire.com/wi/Wilder/ROTJsuit.html After doing a bit of research, looks like GF got the C and D in 2000...... Here is John Pisa Relli: The attorney who helped GF get a settlement.... Here's a link to a complete build up of TE armor circa 2005 --------------- Gotta love google man!!!

I think we kinda get the path, but we need more history

AWESOME THANKS ROB!!!!!

Looks great. The thinner material brought out alot more detail!

---------- Pauls armor pics....

Awe man I was just messin with TE. I love Jez site Hey Matt, have you ever given anything away?

I purchased my set or RT-Mod armor after doing extensive research on Jez site back in 2005. I really wanted something somewhat accurate and tough for trooping and the RT-Mod delivered. I asked Rob to assemble my helmet and I would do the rest. When my box arrived it was so neatly packed and so glossy and nice. It looked like it came from a professional company. The armor itself is a milky white .093 gage armor. Its quite possibly the thickest, toughest armor out there. It looses a bit of detail because its so thick, but for trooping it was great. I wore my armor for a year and sold it for some AP. When I opened the AP box and saw how thin the armor was in comparison, I was like wha?? Rob is a great guy and has no ego. I have heard that 1/2 the Canadian garrison is wearing his armor. Thats cool. I am not sure when Rob began making his armor. His website is hit or miss on the pics for his armor. If you know anything about his armor and have facts and cool things to share please do. I am going to invite RT-MOD to join the discussion. Hopefully he will tell us how it began for him. Here is a pic of me in my armor. Its one of my favorites.

Well, I cant resist. I love Pauls armor. I wish I had a set. I know that there are several people who would love to hear what Paul has to say about his great armor and how it came about. I do know this much. The TM armor project was started in 1999 and over the course of the next 7 years, TM has made a wonderful set of great looking armor. There is a yahoo site with all his pictures of the development on it as proof that this guy has done ALL the work. In my opinion, nothing even comes close. So lets kick er' off. What do you say?

Yeah, Jez could buy the CD. Then he could post it on his website for FREE Sounds like a plan

1. Where did the ROTJ molds come from? 2. When exaclty were the molds made? 3. Are there pics of the first completed suit? 4. Does anyone know how to get ahold of "Dave", "Mike", and "Gerardo" for their opinoins and what not? 5. Lets discuss the discovery of the armor not the deals. We have a semi clear picture of what transpired so lets move on.

This is not a TE bashing thread or a Bashing thread for anyone else. Lets keep it civil... That being said:) 1. Where did the ROTJ molds come from? 2. When exaclty were the molds made? 3. Are there pics of the first completed suit? 4. Does anyone know how to get ahold of "Dave", "Mike", and "Gerardo" for their opinoins and what not? 5. Lets discuss the discovery of the armor not the deals. We have a semi clear picture of what transpired so lets move on.

Hey Paul, how many different handplates do you have? I have seen three different kinds with your armor so far.

Does GF get on the boards much??? It would be nice to get his two cents worth of how his end played out. Plus that would a good way to get into FX discussions eventually. GF created the FX, right?

I find it dissapointing that Matt cant answer the questions that are posed to him. Its frustrating to read another post and find that your questions are passed over and only finger pointing has taken place. Gino still hasnt answered some questions as well, but has been more forthcoming.....and more calm. So here is what we have established...I think. TE aquired the armor parts (from?) and recasted them with his friend Mike. TE sent the loose pulls to GF in the hopes that GF would sculpt them into something nicer. GF went overboard and TE decided to part ways with GF. GF then sold his molds after his C and D from lucas to AP. AP is the current producer of ABS troopable armor. TE's partner Mike makes a deal with Gino's partner Dave to buy the "ROTJ" molds and sends the molds along with the faceplate and cap n back off. TE waits for his suits which were part of the deal, but they never show and so he demands the molds to the cap n back and faceplate to be sent back. Since TE has had the "ANH" molds all along he doesnt care about the ROTJ molds in Gino's possesion and Gino or Dave paid for em anyway. TE begins producing his armor and molds. Gino begins producing his nice helmets. TE says he's getting out and works out a deal with Guns to buy his "ANH" molds and Faceplate and Cap n Back. Guns begins making TE2 armor and helmets. TE comes out with the Dave M helmet "STS" as a scan and offers up a fiberglass helmet. Since nobody seems interested in the fiberglass version TE starts Vac forming HDPE over the "STS" molds and selling helmets again. TE rumors that Dan is now working on a very accurate ANH set of armor. Gino shows that he also is about 80% done with his armor. Is that right????

Sweeeeeeeeet Is that styrene or ABS Gino?

Gino, dude you are killing me man.... What did you think when you first saw the molds? Like, what went through your head? The first time I saw the armor was on tk409's website. I was thinking holy crap, I have to HAVE TO get a set of that. Unfortunately I couldnt afford one, so I bought the RT-MOD.. a year later I sold my RT and promptly bought the AP set. It still makes me slobber. I never get tired of looking at it...... Anyway... Tell us your stories and show off some pics gents. We are all ears and eyes.