TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) the propagation ray leds are only on one side. in my version. only the open holes on an E-11 on the lower left side. the PDF has 2 led's on each side... and I only want one side. blastercore 4 allows for multi-color propagation ray side barrel colors. Edited May 2, 2013 by TK Bondservnt 2392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 my goal is stun and red colors on the single sided propagation ray. blastercore 3 is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) What color LEDs did you want to use for the propagation? Standard red? If so, here's the resistors and LEDs you can use- LEDs: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=SLX-LX5093IDvirtualkey69600000virtualkey696-SLX-LX5093ID Resistors: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Xicon/291-240-RC/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMu61qfTUdNhG2SQwNu9H8kGcqIgBPvMRF0%3d For the propagation, you'd need 6 of each. In case you didn't know, with Erv's board and through-hole resistors, you'll want to kind of wind one lead of the resistor around the positive (longer) lead on the LED and tin it with some solder, then solder the other lead where the LED positive lead would go. Obviously I was typing that as you were replying^ I want multicolor propagation ray. again... I want multi-color propagation ray. blue and red. you assume 9 volts, and only a red propagation ray. when I mentioned clearly blue and red propagation ray on one side of the barrel. the PDF makes several assumptions... a dual red propagation ray on each side of the barrel. and other mistakes. how many typo errors can you find in the blastercore 4.0 manual? Edited May 8, 2013 by captsafe66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 i was asking about red and blue propagation ray. chris only mentions the lower rating red "standard" led. I dont want that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Do you actually want help, or do you want it done for you? actually I want to have someone wire up a propagation ray barrel insert with both blue and red multicolor leds this usually requires a different set of capacitors, resistors and led's than the usual PDF description for low power red led's see... I have read the PDF and I know the difference between what is described and what is done. ERV made the PDF different than the e-11 x... it's not simple. so I was thinking that someone could help me with wiring up a multicolor propagaton ray barrell with a multicolor led on the front. the answer is yes... I do want someone to wire it up for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 i was asking about red and blue propagation ray. chris only mentions the lower rating red "standard" led. I dont want that. The same math behind selecting resistors goes for any LED. Just substitute the values with those from your selected LED's datasheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) you make it sound so simple... but it's not that easy. the capacitors are what you're missing. see... the blastercore is not simple... if you wire it with red led's it's simple... but to do a multicolor propagation ray it requires capacitors and resistors in a specific balance. I don't know the balance... and ERV does... but he does not describe it in the PDF Edited May 8, 2013 by captsafe66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 so far I know that I need a sat board for my propagation leds. since these will be multi color then I will have to adjust. but there is no data on resistors and capacitors and power settings for multicolor led's in the PDF. we see the design in the e-11 x but ERV does not explain the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Maybe you should email ERV then, since he seems to be the only one that knows how to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) ERV expects me to understand everything... and he sold me the board and does not help.. he just quotes his RPF thread... and expects me to know how to do it. and his PDF and his thread does not explain how to wire up different led and power settings. he just gives basic examples and expects understanding. he speaks french as a first language and he just brushes people off when asking questions. it took me 3 years to get the board, and now all I get is bad advice from the people I needed the most. it's like saying... :" I like Rs props more than I like TM... but AP is ok... if you want to go that way." see how that makes sense to us... but to someone who does not understand it's just meaningless. it's that way when trying to understand how to run a blastercore. Edited May 8, 2013 by captsafe66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 everytime I have have written ERV on the RPF or on his site... he's "busy" and too busy with projects to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) he does not answer@! that's the point... so... what's the math on 6 rgb luxeon leds? how much capacitance? how much power? how much resistance? figuring on a 7.4 dc load? you both say read... and I've read... and there's no data except what he could tell me. the PDF is not clear, and the website is not clear. FX sabres does not have clear data. he basically says "figure it out on your own" and thanks for your help everyone... I know how to read incomplete information. the PDF and website don't describe how to wire up the board in every configuration. on the FX sabres website people have to submit wiring diagrams... and ERV only can reply... " I think that's correct" Edited May 8, 2013 by captsafe66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 If you have the part number of the LED you can find the datasheet online at some retailer that sells that LED. Then you can use the same formulas that you have been given already. And even if you don't have that, you can find a similar LED and use those values and it will most likely work just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) he does not list the led types that I want to use. he also did not want to supply a list of components for use on his boards. you seem to think it's just resistors and leds... but in my situation it's different... my setup requires capacitors.... and his instructions don't cover that. please mathias stop trolling my post with inaccurate information. Edited May 8, 2013 by captsafe66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK bondservnt[501st] Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) 7.4 volt with a 3.2 forward rgb common cathode? 6 led's in a row. on the left side. R1-R6 what's the capacitance and resistance ratings. Edited May 8, 2013 by captsafe66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captsafe66[Admin] Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 I have opened this back up in hopes Vern may find the information he's looking for. Please limit posts to Exactly what he needs. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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