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Great build! Jimmi makes a good kit. Nice looking Wookiees, too.
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Welcome! Multiple costumes on the wist list, I like it!
For TKs, I recommend AM and RT, and definitely check out the Getting Started area, as mentioned above.
I've also got a Shadow Scout (same thing as Biker Scout, just solid black), and I recommend Studio Creations. The Biker Scout forums are the best place for knowledge about Scouts (Spec Ops for Shadow Scouts).
And I also have a ANH TIE Pilot- I recommend Radu (on Facebook) and Intergalactic Supply. And again, the JRS forums for more details.
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Welcome aboard!
Centurion is awesome, but by no means required. You get the right to wear the Centurion rockers and corresponding red FISD patches. You get a forum badge. You get bragging rights. Really it's about the personal achievement, and if you think that's something you'd enjoy, then I say go for it! Nothing wrong with basic approval, either- you're no less a member of the Legion than anyone else.
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Welcome to the ranks!
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More progress!
The shins are sized, trimmed, and final gluing!
This is where it got wonky. I don’t have a whole lot of in-progress photos, because I was focused elsewhere. Mainly trying to understand what was going on and what Johnny was doing when explaining how to trim and trimming. I got to the point where I intellectually understood what was going on, but could I explain it, or write it out? Nope.
Basically this is a kit-specific thing. KB’s shins and thighs are straight lines/connections, while aNOvos and the CRL aren’t a straight join, they have a curve to them.
Examples:
CRL, which matches the aNOvos FOTK I have as reference:
KB thighs (I don’t have a before picture of the shins, but it was the same thing just in a different part):
And yes, the KB back thigh is just a straight half circle/tube, with no cut down for where your butt would be. More on that later.
I did an image search and didn’t find any good shots of the outer thighs on any movie shots, or even any other approved 501st Phasmas. So I just looked at my Black Series figure, because they’re known for being at least decent in accuracy, even if a toy. There’s definitely a curve on the thigh:
The deeper shin curve is on the inside, not the outside like the thigh, so definitely no pictures of that one that were easy to find. And the Black Series looked kinda straight. It is basically the same curve. The other half is then just the opposite, so they fit together nicely. The outside seems more relaxed but I still see a curve in the CRL photos.
What Johnny did, and then what I attempted to do based on that, was take all the measurements of different points of Izzy’s FOTK I have as reference, and then use those measurements to plot the curve on my pieces. Johnny was the true mastermind there- I basically started and tried to understand and then used his template for the remaining thigh piece we didn’t get to that night.
I realize that helps no one without an FOTK lying around for visuals and physical measurements. Have I told Izzy lately thank you for letting me borrow his FOTK? I should do it again. I will also say that his aNOvos is a first wave or maybe the first of the B wave they did, so I have no idea if they’ve changed their design since. Oh wait no one who’s ordered has received anything so we don’t know the answer to that.
I don’t actually know if doing a straight line would affect approval. I’d defer to the appropriate GML, of course, but the CRL text doesn’t indicate it, but the photos clearly do. And the approval is based on the combo of the text and photos.
I suppose without a physical reference I’d just wing it and lightly sketch the curve on the parts until you like it and then cut. It is a bit subtle. I’m also not very good at winging it, but I’ve gotten better at it the more kits I build and help build. Pretty sure we’ve winged just about everything on the WTF Inferno TIE I’m helping a friend build (don’t even get me started).
But back to that wonky thigh back with no cut out for human butts. I’m going to use both my OT TK and Izzy’s FOTK to get an idea of where to trim, and then hold it up to myself and see what works. I’m really not sure what was up with that, it’s very obviously not another piece, it is the back of the thigh. The front had the dip for the inner leg.
I also have a V1 KB, and Johnny had a V2, and I think they’re on V3, now. So maybe all of the above is fixed/makes more sense now.
I sat down to do the second thigh, and just couldn’t wrap my mind around how to even use the template. I got frustrated, and kept asking myself why every step of this was so hard. I’ve knocked out a bunch of other projects and little things in between working on this and this kit just keeps fighting me at every turn.
Thankfully Johnny was able to come by and help me out and it’s now done and gluing. The first thigh is final gluing and the second will have its full closure gluing done in the next few days.
The backs aren’t totally trimmed but will be easier to work with once assembled, so I can slip them on and adjust as necessary.
Did I mention it’s also 100+ degrees here, and we’ve been in an excessive heat warning for the last three days, though at least tomorrow? The garage and the outside are rough to work in right now. (Arizonans shush, I know, it could be worse, and it will get worse here, though not quite like you poor smucks).
Anyway…
As far as chroming goes: I got ahold of my uncle and he has two possibilities for me, one guy who’s the best in town but pricey, and one guy who’s great and the bang-for-buck guy, but referral only. Thankfully I have a referral. I contacted him and he’s supposed to get back to me with some paint costs. I have a feeling he’s not going to be the one- he’s not a cosplay guy, he doesn’t know quite what I’m asking of him. I did end up with two extra leads, though- one is another local guy, who has (per a Yelp review I found) done Cosplay paint work before, and he’s more than happy to take a look at it and give me a quote. We’ll be meeting sometimes next week. A third option is Chrome Factory LV out of Las Vegas (https://www.chromefactorylv.com/), which Johnny found via Instagram. Their work is beautiful, and I do know an approximate cost.
Basically on cost… I’m torn, frustrated, and afraid. I finally sat down with myself and thought it out, and I came up with this plan:
If I can get it chromed for $1k, I will be ecstatic. I’m willing to go up to $1.5k, and still feel okay. If that just isn’t feasible or realistic, I will consider $2k, but I will have to think long and hard about it. But anything about that and I simply can’t justify it and can’t afford it (someday, but not in the next while, and especially not if I even want to think about Celebration Anaheim). I’m already afraid I won’t be able to afford the $1k - $1.5k, and am working through ever scenario I can to make it work, and on the timeline I still desperately want to stick to. The worst-case scenario is I don’t get it done in time for the premiere. Not disastrous, I suppose, but I need to strike while the iron is hot, and I’m afraid that if she doesn’t show up in this new movie, then the public will have lost interest in her. I am doing the costume for myself, and for my love of Gwendoline Christie, and all the character should have been, but I have trouble justifying it if the public isn’t also into it. I’m feeling the monetary crunch and that just kills me on a good day.
I normally don’t talk specific monetary details, unless one-to-one, and generally when someone is already started or very serious about a costume, but it’s a hang-up point for me on this one, and I do think it is important for other potential Phasmas to know the possibilities and the realities, and if they can or still want to pursue her. I feel the need to be brutally honest about my experiances with this build because sugar coating it won’t help me and could set someone else up in the future for a real shock and I don’t want to do that. Money is just such an awkward topic (maybe if it weren’t people would have less problems with it). I have about $1k into her currently, so even if I dropped $1.5k on chroming, that’d still be a reasonable and even cheap Phasma. Thankfully I only have minor expenses left other than chroming (final balance of cape, I have the misc. supplies already just in my stash), so that end is in sight. I firmly believe she will be worth every penny.
For my blasters, I ordered Alclad II in chrome and pale gold- I’m going to mix the two to get that champagne color for her blasters. Or maybe I’ll get lucky and the pale gold will mimic it well and I won’t need the other. Based on photos I think it needs a mix, but maybe in person it will be different. We’ll see. I did get an airbrush with compressor kit for my birthday, so we’re in good shape there!
I also did a bunch of clean up work on the helmet. It needs quite a bit more, but it is cleaning up better than I expected.
Tiny Dremel bits used by hand to get in those grooves, wet 1000 grit sandpaper for the ridges, more Dremel work for some of the extra mold bits, and we’re getting somewhere.
Basically, what I decided while working on it, however, is that I will never be totally happy with it. I can’t get it out of my head I’m convinced it’s a B Grade. I ordered a Tripon which should be here in 3 – 4 weeks. The nose cone isn’t separate like Thorrson’s, but hell, I’m not painting the thing most likely, so it’s someone else’s problem. I’m going to keep this one and try and clean it up the best I can, but it will be converted to the broken one from TLJ. (Dumb, nothing made out of a spaceship should crack that easy, but hero v. villain and we all know how that ends in Hollywood). It will be an awesome table prop and show piece. To save on costs, I will chrome it myself with the Alclad since it’s just a prop piece and won’t have the wear-and-tear of use like the main one will.
The 3 – 4 week plan will hopefully keep me motivated to finish everything else by then, so then I can just finish the new helmet and send it all for chroming. If I can get this to chroming in July, then I’ll still have four and a half months before the premiere to wrap everything up. I really do think once the chroming is done, the rest is assembly and strapping, which I can start now, but not glue in, and anyway that part is the quick easy part anyway. I’d love to be able to have the funds to chrome her by July, but if I have to wait another month, then I’ll still have enough time to make it to the finish line before the premiere.
Updated list of completed/nearly completed/needing to be finished:
Still needing finishing finesse and greeblies, etc.:
Chest plate
Back/yoke
Biceps
Forearms
Boot spats
Shoulder bells
Cod piece
Butt plate
Knee plates
Hand plates
Up next:
Secondary hand plates- received from KB, just need some trimming
Attach all greeblies/boxes (forearms, thighs, shins)
Clean up 3D print lines from blasters
1st Helmet: more sanding and clean up
2nd Helmet: sanding and prep once received
Maybe finish/assemble thermal detonator. Still on the fence about it. More likely than not going to skip it to try and keep costs down as much as possible.
Work up connections so they’re ready to install
I’m going to have to get a taped up shot of everything on and roughly in place to show off. I'm also hopeful this will help with my motivation and my desire to keep going. I have all the desire for a finished Phasma of my own. I have much less desire to keep going to do the work necessary to get to that point.
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Welcome and congratulations on your upcoming BBB Day! The build thread section will be of immense help for building, and don't limit yourself to only your armor maker or your version- most of the kits are very similar and they assemble much the same, with little details making the different variations. Also the approved EIB and Centurion threads are great for close up photos of stuff done right, so if you aim for that, you'll at least have no issues with basic approval.
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ESB Boba! Envious! Welcome aboard! Do all the research and ask all the questions, and you'll join the white armor ranks in no time.
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Solid advice! Glad it worked out for you.
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1 hour ago, Ericnathan811 said:
For those who know more about the officer uniforms, are the Disney ones up to 501st standards? Cause if they are something tells me we’re about to have a bunch of more members then.
I believe the ones in the store are by Anovos, which their OT Officers need some minor mods (they have lacked a modesty panel, for example), but I haven't heard anything specific about the FO Officers. You'd think because Anovos is licensed they would be, but that's not a given. I didn't see an FO Officer (other than some patches/insignia) on their website, so I don't have any photos to compare to the CRL. The IOC forums would likely know better- ImperialOfficer.com.
EDIT: I found a thread on the IOC forums about Anovos' FO Officers, they were like $2,200, and not even tailored. The links are also dead (probably why I couldn't find them on the Anovos website). Even if you wanted a high-end Officer, $2k+ is expensive, even for FOs (which are more rare and therefore more expensive/harder to find).
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Can you post a photo so I know for sure what you're looking at? If it's the part that I'm thinking, then I don't think mine had a return edge either and doesn't now (I'm doing Phasma, but that part is the same armor piece).
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Following out of interest, but personally I see decent enough I wouldn't bother. I do have friends and fellow members who would be very interested based on price, too.
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Welcome aboard! The Getting Started Section is your best first bet, then Build Threads. The rest of the forum is also awesome, but the big getting started wealth of information will be in those two main sections. Good luck!
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I've been using Country Brook Design velcro (or, technically, since that's the brand, hook and loop) for everything. I buy it buy the 10 yard roll on Amazon for about $10, depending on what width.
Regardless, I recommend E6000 them onto your surface because the sticky back, even industrial, will wear our with our repeated levels of stress and use. I also just always buy sew in now, because the sticky back kind gunks up your sewing machine on sewing projects, and you're going to glue it all anyway. Why have different types of the same width of velro?
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As already mentioned above, the Getting Started and Various Types of Armor and Where to Find them is your best best for TK armor from vetted sources. For Bikers, I recommend Studio Creations (and I do not recommend WTF), but your best bet would be the Pathfinders Detachment Forums for all your biker needs: http://forum.501stpathfinders.com
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Weekends tend to be a little quieter- we're out on troops, we're out of town (sometimes out of town on troops), etc.
Here's what jumps out at me:
eBay?
I would guess it's an AM 1.0- the chest really looks like 1.0 to me.
Belt boxes to line up with the end of the plastic belt
Move biceps up about an inch or so. This should help them pushing into the forearms, which are then hitting the hand guards. If not, you may need to trim the forearms a bit shorter.
Turn the thighs a bit so the cover strip is more centered to the leg, this will also help them line up with the cover strips on the shins.
Shoulder bridges don't look affixed in the front- they should be flush with the chest plate.
The back plate looks rather elongated and large, with a lot of overlap on the kidney. If you were significantly shorter this wouldn't surprise me as much, but being as tall as you are, how big is the kit?
The kidney seems to come up very high on the torso.
The det could be moved over just a smidgen to be centered (this is totally nit picky but might as well get used to getting it centered),
The cover strip on the thigh stops at the bottom ridge, and doesn't go all the way to the bottom of the piece.
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Flexible meaning flexible fiberglass (like Jimmi makes), or flexible as in... just flexible (like AM)?
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31 minutes ago, gmrhodes13 said:
Actually the cod is different TFA to TLJ and also the forearms are different on the inner ends, although these are not presently in the CRL's but that could change in the next round of CRL discussions
That would be why I didn't catch it when I reviewed my spreadsheet... Good to know! I do vaguely recall a discussion about the cods, now that I think about it.
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Just now, Helotech said:
Rebecca,
No offcuts or trimming. This was a complete ready to wear from SDS.
No, I'm not lazy, just too many hobbies, busy with work and time compressed to build my armor from scratch
Thanks for the info about the sniper plate. Never thought of that.
I'm going to attempt the ammo pack fix as I stated above. If that doesn't work, then a shopping I will go!
Quite honestly the biggest downside (minus cost most of the time) with ordering assembled armor is there's no extra ABS for fixes later down the road.
Good luck with your fixes!
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Welcome! Glad to hear we have another aspiring Centurion!
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On 5/1/2019 at 6:35 PM, BlackFrown72 said:
Ok so here is my dilemma. I ordered an Anovos FOTK. It has shipped and will be in my possession this Friday. Based on pics from Anovos and another recipient of this kit, it appears to be TLJ. My helmet which I already have, is TFA. So now I'm worried that I'll have to either buy a new TLJ helmet and try for TLJ approval or modify or source new parts to get approved as TFA. I was really hoping to be able to get approved in this kit at least at basic with my current helmet. Sounds like though, if the CRLs are going through updates, I may end up having to just buy a new helmet and shoot for TLJ approval.
The armor itself is the same between TFA and TLJ- it's the extra paint, details and accessories (and helmet) that make it TLJ (or TLJ executioner).
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Welcome aboard!
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Welcome aboard! Looks like you'll have no trouble with your own armor. Great job on the mini FOTK!
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Another ESB! I love it! Welcome aboard, you've come to the right place.