Jangojedi

No prob, no ill will towards you or anyone. Today, I trooped with a guy, who plans on joining the Jolly Rogers. He showed up with his Tie Pilot stuff for us to look over, asked him abt the bucket, he said his mother had bought it off ebay for his birthday but didn't know of the brand . No big deal, he picks up his helmet and his index finger punched through the skin just below the left eye socket. I asked him to text his mom about the purchase, she answered back SFP. That suck dude. Sorry to hear about your waste of time painting it up and all. Being new to the hobby, he didn't know. That sucks, told him not to be discouraged. It happens. My advice to him was to find out who SFP recasted off of, and buy from directly. Unless they copied Don Post, I also referred him a proper prop maker.

No one is ganging up, have you read the thread? The part where it says good job. Can it be any clearer then that. Jason and Paul clearly state the respect that they have for one another. I actually agree with what Paul is doing. Paul has clearly shown in the past and present where he stands within his power to do so, he is doing a great job. KEEP things in there right CONTEXT, don't put words in other peoples mouths, those are your words NOT mine - no ganging up here & very civil. Suggestions or discussions on how to maybe better things for the future should not be seen as argumentative.

Wow, I didn't realize treating people with respect was baseless, petty, redundant. Pack up your toys and go home. Is this the stance of the 501st or personal agenda?? And how does this constitute being civil.

No ill will here, I don't know where you stand on the issue. Please do not take it the wrong way. Regardless of your stance, I always ask myself. But does it make it right to recast it? A more direct question would be, are you ok with recasting their stuff? And then reselling it to the members here? Where is the honor in that? I personally would not want to hurt the person who was recasted in the first place, and it probably move me to buy from that person directly to show support. We VOTE with our dollars, who do you support? I mean if someone on a 501st board offered a RUN of a certain item, then took all the payments and ran off with it, then does it make it ok for me to do the same, NO. Obviously not. Rmember this is not directed at you personally at all. I would rather build a community through long term TRUST with Honor and Respect.

Jason, I here you on the member vs non-member issue. Maybe it should be stated in the charter that anyone who is on the 501st Forums, regardless of membership status - ACTION will be taken. Because the non-members make up the community as well as the members. Especially if they are supplying the 501st with original buckets, never before made. ie the clone stuff. Or Jason's MQ Stormtrooper. If someone recasted it, that member or non-member should be BANNED and Publicly displayed as a RECASTER. Paul, I definitely think you are taking steps in the right direction. I agree with the BAN, good job. As far the IP thing, Jason hit on the head, unless LFL allows or gives you permission to recast or sell his stuff, you don't own it. The question isn't about IP, unless someone here said " no one can build the stormtrooper anymore" only FX or TE2 can build it, then the IP card should be played. You don't own it, so I can build what I want. Now with that said, buying someone's armor TE2 or FX, and then copying it and reselling it is recasting. Member or NON-member, you are stealing if you recast it. If you want to be a sell TK armor, start a build thread, show your progress, and document your build for all to see, step by step, then offer your FANMADE TK. To say anything different, that no one owns the rights so I can recast anything I want, go ahead and make a list of which armor/helmets you want to recast publicly so people can decide if they want to sell to you or not. I mean be a MAN about it andout yourself. At least give the prop builder the common courtesy to let him know that you will recast his stuff. BTW, no one owns the IP rights, that has never been the issue - the issue is TRUST, how can you have a community of people if you can not TRUST them, if a propbuilder does not TRUST a potential buyer, then no transaction. Vice versa, if I do not TRUST a propmaker, I will not order from him, especially he has ran off with money or sent out really bad recast. I have never heard a propmaker say, I own the rights, you can not build another stormtrooper. I have heard propmakers get really pissed off that people recasted his fanmade bucket. Then the community should be pissed as well, they stole that guys hard work, time and efforts. By not standing by that man's side (member or non-memeber); it is a total slap in the face of the propbuilder. Why in the hell-o would he ever want to build another awesome helmet to be recasted and told don't complain about it. Once again, the wording on the charter may need to change to any person on the 501st forums will be served the same consquences. NON-members - Banned, Memebers Banned, Membership to the 501st REVOKED. Food for thought.

I wish I would have read this thread before I put my RC gear together.

Wally, Dude CONGRATULATIONS! How's the clonepilot bucket going? -Rick

I have not but I know I need to.

Just the tips I was lookin for, I love this site.

That would work for me, then as I lose I can modify until Turkey day. I want to be able to TROOP.

Thanks for the pic, will shop the HOME DEPOT for some blinds!! But I will be using my GOLD's membership more often; starting tomorrow at 5am, then at 5pm. I think I know why my wife wanted me to get the armor.