Lafleur[TK] Posted January 2, 2025 Report Posted January 2, 2025 Hi everyone, Iām back like the T800Ā ? So whatās the only thing TKs are missing thatās super cool in Star Wars? Well my thought is the lightsaberĀ ?Ā and as the Hero version is allowed to have one⦠I need a Hero! Ā As the base I will be using my RWA Stunt suit with a new helmet and belt. Troopermaster TM was kind enough to help me out and not only provide a kit but also match the ABS color as my RWA suit is a bit whiter than most. He did a great job!Ā ? Ā Of course we need a lightsaber too ?Ā so question to whoever will follow my journey. Same build thread or a separate one for the lightsaber? Ā ** pictures on the way Ā 2 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 2, 2025 Author Report Posted January 2, 2025 [Dark manly voice]: Calling out to all Autobots⦠I mean Stormtroopers!Ā ? Ā Help needed! So I donāt want to mess this up and aiming to do it the most accurate I can to a certain point. Whatās the ālatestā to think of when doing the Hero helmet and belt? Ā I know about the four rivets for the holster on the belt. Iāve found some member whoās done this.. accurate? Ā Ā The helmet is the same as the Stunt except the mouth and also hovic tips that are black inside instead of white? Ā Ā Ā Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 2, 2025 Report Posted January 2, 2025 Spreadsheet on the differences between OTTK'sĀ https://drive.google.com/file/d/10tEVteIreh6AHMogW010cuH_Bf8TBfU6/view Ā Ā 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 2, 2025 Report Posted January 2, 2025 Personally for your saber build I'd do another thread. Ā The "hero" helmets for the original film were not just stunt helmets assembled differently. They were completely separate molds (softer pull/details) giving them a slightly different look used both for the hero TK and the TIE fighter pilot. If you were to make the ATA into a hero, I would suggest taking the time to iron out the 4th and 5th tooth indents leaving only the three as well as opening up the eyes slightly larger. Ā Ā My modified ATA helmet so the last teeth impressions were removed Ā Some great references and information starwarshelmets.com:Ā http://starwarshelmets.com/original-ANH-hero-Stormtrooper-armor-helmets.htm Ā Found your other thread hereĀ Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 2, 2025 Report Posted January 2, 2025 Light saber info CRL image Ā 3D files Ā You can find a copy of Star Wars Insider #85 hereĀ https://archive.org/details/starwarsinsider_1_to_153_plus_specials/Star Wars Insider 085 (2006)/ Ā ReferencesĀ Ā 1 Quote
Tall_Trooper[Staff] Posted January 2, 2025 Report Posted January 2, 2025 I'm very excited to see how this turns out 2 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 3, 2025 Author Report Posted January 3, 2025 3 hours ago, gmrhodes13 said: Personally for your saber build I'd do another thread. Ā The "hero" helmets for the original film were not just stunt helmets assembled differently. They were completely separate molds (softer pull/details) giving them a slightly different look used both for the hero TK and the TIE fighter pilot. If you were to make the ATA into a hero, I would suggest taking the time to iron out the 4th and 5th tooth indents leaving only the three as well as opening up the eyes slightly larger. Ā Ā My modified ATA helmet so the last teeth impressions were removed Ā Some great references and information starwarshelmets.com:Ā http://starwarshelmets.com/original-ANH-hero-Stormtrooper-armor-helmets.htm Ā Found your other thread hereĀ Ā Ā Ā @gmrhodes13Ā I knew you had some fantastic info stored up your sleeveĀ ? Ā Iāve actually bought a Hero TM helmet to build so I wonāt be needing any modifications I think but your reference pictures and info is fantastic! Super grateful for the help. Ā I think Iāve sourced all info on the lightsaber. There isnāt that much to go by more than 2 pictures I think thatās āofficialā. Wonāt be using the 3D print versions after some consideration as I feel both have good and bad things going with them. Also I love my lightsabers with aluminum hilts as it feels real and sturdy in your hand. So Iām going the route of modifying a hilt Iāve bought. I will start a separate build thread on the lightsaber as suggestedĀ ? 2 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 4, 2025 Author Report Posted January 4, 2025 (edited) Starting up with the basics.. cleaning the ABS. Easier when itās all in parts so when youāre done assembling just wipe it down and youāre doneĀ ā Ā Ā Using my lexan scissors I do a basic trim on all parts. Ā Ā In sharp corners if Iām afraid of cutting and making the abs crack I drill a little safety hole. Itās easy with a small file making a sharp corner when done trimming. Ā Fitting faceplate and back. Using magnets to hold them when adjusting and some extra masking tape when the positioning feels right. Forgot the eyes and teeth when doing this so back stepped and did both. You get carried away sometimesĀ ? Ā Ā Ā When youāve found the spot that feels right for the faceplate itās time for the first upper rivets on the sides and a test fit⦠(Taped in the lenses to get a real feel) Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Edited January 4, 2025 by Lafleur 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 5, 2025 Report Posted January 5, 2025 Nice work, you do appear to have a slight angle on the brow trim though, easily fixed by bringing the brow trim down a little Ā Ā 3 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 5, 2025 Author Report Posted January 5, 2025 Part 2, the ears. Forgot how I hate the stress of fitting the ears ? The Hero helmet was a bit harder than my Stunt as it only has 2 screws holding it down so you need to be extra thorough to get a flush fit. Must say Iām really impressed with the mold lines on Troopermasters ears, they are almost spot on when fitting. After a lot of testing, fitting, cutting and sanding.. we have a basic Hero helmet doneĀ ? Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 5, 2025 Author Report Posted January 5, 2025 Done the last trimming and sanding. Test fitted the rubber trim on the opening of the helmet. Ready for paint⦠   2 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 5, 2025 Author Report Posted January 5, 2025 6 minutes ago, gmrhodes13 said: Nice work, you do appear to have a slight angle on the brow trim though, easily fixed by bringing the brow trim down a little Ā Ā Yes, was looking in horror at the ear pieces wondering how the hell those where getting trimmed and mountedĀ ? 2 Quote
JBar[TK] Posted January 6, 2025 Report Posted January 6, 2025 On 1/2/2025 at 4:21 PM, gmrhodes13 said: Spreadsheet on the differences between OTTK'sĀ https://drive.google.com/file/d/10tEVteIreh6AHMogW010cuH_Bf8TBfU6/view Ā Ā Just when I think I have all the resources you post something like this and blow my mind. Excellent PDF Quote
JBar[TK] Posted January 6, 2025 Report Posted January 6, 2025 You're making me want to build another helmet. Those ears look nice and snug and I'm glad you got past that part. It's the hardest part of assembly for sure Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 6, 2025 Author Report Posted January 6, 2025 53 minutes ago, JBar said: You're making me want to build another helmet. Those ears look nice and snug and I'm glad you got past that part. It's the hardest part of assembly for sure Thanks! šĀ Needed to hear some good as Iām finding more and more small things Iāve done wrong. Itās fun doing this, and I love building but to be honest Iām no expert, far from it. And doing all the mistakes break my spirit a bitĀ šĀ I get carried away and overdo things, have a hard time leaving them wonky, cricked and not symmetrical.. I can look at a picture, aim for it and look back 10min later and wonder what the hell I was thinkingĀ š I know it will end up okay in the end, and I know I will be proud of the result but the way there is a rollercoaster for me. So I really appreciate your moral support and also not to mention support I get behind the scenes. @NairyĀ my friend and garrison buddy have given me a lot and even Paul at Troopermaster have reached out giving me super great tips and @gmrhodes13Ā pulling out spreadsheets, pictures. Thanks to all of you! So in the spirit of ātroopers helping troopersā Iāll add the section āwhat NOT to doā in my build thread tooĀ š 2 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 6, 2025 Author Report Posted January 6, 2025 Need some paint on the bucket too. As I always have troubles having a steady hand, especially when applying dark paint on white background I try and keep the outer black line as straight and solid I can but donāt give full attention do the inside as itās going to be gray later anyways. This helps me a lot doing the black first and grey after, more forgiving. Added a bit grey to the mouth too. Ā Ā Ā This was when I started realizing mistakes have been done and they where not to be alone, more would followĀ š 1 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 6, 2025 Author Report Posted January 6, 2025 Following is a guide on WHAT NOT TO DO!!Ā š Ā Ā I had cut out the teeth too muchĀ šĀ Even though looking at pictures, planing and having a goal I somewhere on the line got carried away and took a bit too much. āThis needs to be a bit straighterā, āonly touching up thisā and āfixing this small thing, there is a lineā. I know this is an issue I need to work with myself on but here I am. Honestly at first I just wanted to quit as I got so angry at myself. But after some mental torture and a lot of screen helmets I at least found one probably made by the intern that was at least close to mineĀ š So my Hero wonāt be Luke or Solos, itās the one in the backĀ š Ā But as you know misery loves company! Blue linesā¦Ā š Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 6, 2025 Author Report Posted January 6, 2025 I used a template. My opinion is donāt!Ā āĀ Mine are now sorted to the trashcan. These give a lot of bleed through and are also very hard to place on the curvy surface. Ā Ā Ā Troopermaster gave me the advise to just use some thin masking tape and a precut template. So stealing his pictures he sent me to show you guys how I think it should be done next timeĀ š«£ Ā Ā At first I was thinking of just starting over and wiping the paint of the bucket. I know the bleed is easily fixed with just a toothpick after the paint have dried as I did it on my last bucket. This time though I thought before doing. The Humbrol Enamel paint isnāt the easiest cleaning so tried first on a spare plastic piece. And WOW am I glad I did this. The only thing really cleaning it also dissolves the abs I just left a second or twoĀ š±Ā I know this is an issue talked about a lot here on the forum but canāt say it enough! Even the brush was just to throw away after as it was full of abs. Ā Ā Ditched that idea and went back to clean the lines with toothpicks after it dried instead. Just carefully rubb the tip in an angle against the paint and it will slowly scrape it off. The the tip gets full, cut 1mm of and continue or take a new toothpick. Ā Before: Ā After: Ā After doing this I went back with āthe right wayā and did a touch up to the lines I wasnāt happy with. It will need some minor toothpick trimming after dried too but not muchĀ š Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 6, 2025 Author Report Posted January 6, 2025 The Hovi Mix got some paint too. This was at least straight forward and went without any mishaps. Did some distressed white on the rim of them to make them appear a bit used and scuffed as screen ones. Ā Some last minute trimming and paint on the ears and screws. Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 6, 2025 Report Posted January 6, 2025 A couple of ways to reduce bleeding is use a painters masking tape not just masking tape, also paint white first, any bleed areas then get full of white, then apply your blueĀ Ā 1 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 6, 2025 Author Report Posted January 6, 2025 1 minute ago, gmrhodes13 said: A couple of ways to reduce bleeding is use a painters masking tape not just masking tape, also paint white first, any bleed areas then get full of white, then apply your blueĀ Ā I have used painters masking tape but still get bleed, Iām a master at itĀ š but painting it white first was brilliant!!!Ā š±ā¤ļø Thanks for the tip. 1 Quote
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 6, 2025 Report Posted January 6, 2025 1 minute ago, Lafleur said: The Hovi Mix got some paint too. This was at least straight forward and went without any mishaps. Did some distressed white on the rim of them to make them appear a bit used and scuffed as screen ones. Ā Ā Hovi mesh can also be painted black if you wish Correct Aerators/Hovi-MIX tips are present. Screens used shall be of a wide type mesh. The rim of the mic may be weathered, and the inside raised area painted white. Interior sides shall be painted black, mesh can also be painted black. References Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote
Lafleur[TK] Posted January 6, 2025 Author Report Posted January 6, 2025 2 minutes ago, gmrhodes13 said: Hovi mesh can also be painted black if you wish Correct Aerators/Hovi-MIX tips are present. Screens used shall be of a wide type mesh. The rim of the mic may be weathered, and the inside raised area painted white. Interior sides shall be painted black, mesh can also be painted black. References Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā I wasn't sure on this so didnāt want to be hasty in my decision (tried to learn from my mistakes). But leaning towards painting them black as I think it looks niceĀ š¤ 1 Quote
JBar[TK] Posted January 7, 2025 Report Posted January 7, 2025 Sounds like my first time. But honestly yours is looking great. When you said that you cut out the teeth too much, do you mean too wide or from the back? They look ok to me unless you wanted some "depth" of plastic recessing. Even then it's only something you'll notice. If you ever see me in my armor I can point out a dozen places where I "messed up" and only I would notice. I think yours is well on track looking like a great Luke/Han Hero helmet. I'm also stunned how you were able to recover those tube stripes. Which template did you use? I used one from Trooperbay and it came out great. I let the paint dry for about a day first before removing. Ā I'm currently helping some friends build their and it is SO much easier now. Your first time will feel very frustrating but you're pulling it off. Next armor you do is going to feel like a breeze. Keep it up 2 Quote
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