Artshot
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Hey Jason, thanks for the reply, I am still have a fight with my back plate.
This afternoon I did the final trimming of my backplate, the returns are now a regular distance all around and I managed to trim away some of the bottom "spur".
I also tried a test fit with the torso parts of my armor, which is a pain when just using tape, whilst the side that will be riveted will be fine, I definetly think I am going to have to fit snaps to the other side, or even a tongue and groove setup that I have seen on a few builds. especially as the joining edge wants to overlap.
So, after I eventually got everything taped in place with my cod and butt as snug as I could go without my voice changing frequency, I find that if my back plate is taped to the kidney return edge, then it falls short of my shoulders for the shoulder bridges as the shoulders of the back plate push it away from my body.
First question, is this a quirk of the AM 2 armor ?
Second question, is there any recommended length to leave the shoulders of the back plate ?, I know they get covered by the shoulder bridges, but I don't want them hanging on by there fingertips, so to speak.
Third question, currently my back plate shoulder pieces have a return on them, should I just trim that off so that they are as thin as the ABS ?, I think it will give a better fit and hopefully make back plate lie better on my back, I just don't want to trim something off that I cannot glue back.
I also discovered this afternoon that back plates are not very aerodynamic....
Any and all comments, help, wise words, pity or even prayers are gratefully welcome.
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Being one of those nitpicking people, I tend to post in here, then once I spot the random nonsense, I open up the tapatalk app and delete them.
Double the fun
p.s unless I post from work (which I may be doing now), then everything is fine as my work pc is using Internet Explorer.
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Well, I eventually began trying to figure out the strapping of my kit, I thought since I made all those snap plates, I should eventually start using them.
Firstly, here’s my shoulder bells & biceps, I still need to put in the elastic strap and make a strap hook.
Next, here’s the interior of my kidney armor and butt piece, there currently taped together as I wanted to line up the position of the snap plates better, I also made sure to leave enough space on the kidney armor to cut the kidney notch, I have thoughts on making a false piece to maintain the illusion of armor thickness.
And here’s the reason for my current headaches and occasional temper tantrum.
I trimmed down the sides of my armor to get rid of the surplus ABS and still maintain the illusion of thickness.
As you can see in the photos, there is still a spur along the side and bottom edge, I have used tape (ignore the random tape in other places) to show where I think I should still trim more off to try and get rid of the spur and even out the bottom return edge, this will hopefully help with my next problem.
My intention was to have the back piece fit against the kidney piece with no visible black, however the spur and the shape of the back plate are not making this easy.
Even if I trim as much as I can without actually removing any large areas of armor and changing its shape, I am going to run into problems when trying to bend my back.
After looking over a few builds and submission photos, I think the problem must lie with the overall shape of the back plate, they really do come in all shapes and sizes, I already had to file the bottom return to get a bulge out of it an level it off.
I taped my back plate to my kidney to simulate a gap of 5 mm or so, there is still going to be a little bit of the back plate spur dropping below the top edge of the kidney plate, which I think I will have to slightly round or they may scratch my kidney armor.
So, after all that rambling, what is a preferred gap between back pieces, either back to kidney or kidney to butt ? (my butt plate is currently against the kidney armor, but I am thinking that whatever I make the gap between back plate and kidney I will copy between kidney armor and butt plate)
Or am I driving myself mad over something that is not an issue, I have looked over multiple screenshots and as usual they wander from one thought to another.
Sometimes my nitpicking attention to tiny trivial detail can be my undoing or in the case of my armor, my delay.
I hope all of that makes sense, I tried to fill gaps with photos
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The score lines are just a guide, there never going to work with everybody as we are all different sizes....some bigger than others....sigh.
It's the fine tuning and customising to your body size that will make the kit yours, I would reduce the return edges at your elbow ends of the forearms to at least half what you have.
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Nice work on the helmet, taking the time to fine tune little things is going to make this kit stand out.
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Just a thought, I used to build a lot of model kits and the easiest way I found to remove stubborn transfers was to use double sided tape, the transfer used to lift pretty easy.
However, if the helmet is thin you will need to be careful and do a little bit at a time so you don't cause any damage.
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The thing that's immediately apparent to me is that when looking downward at the helmet, the teeth look really crooked on one side, otherwise I really like the look of the helmet.
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Speaking as somebody who took multiple attempts to get a stubborn forearm lined up, E6000 all the way
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I have been digging all over the Internet for sizing reference as I want to make a 3D model, until somebody gets there hands on a prop to measure or one turns up in an exhibition to be photographed, I think we will all have to guesstimate sizes.
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From what I remember after having my ANH armor seized by customs for charges, Customs grabs the parcel then works out the charges, they then charge the post office for this service, the post office then adds a handling fee which is to pay for the fee from customs and includes the customs fee, which then gets paid back to customs.
There is no rhyme or reason to how the system works as I have both been a victim of customs and got away with not paying customs in the past, there are codes that can be used for certain items to reduce charges, however armor comes under the "costume" category and will always run the risk.
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As somebody who wants a set of First Order armor next (after I finish my ANH TK), direct from the source is always best, recasting is just lazy money skimming.
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Just got back from my third viewing and spotted a pistol attached to a thigh holster, it was on a Heavy Weapons Trooper who sets up to try and bring down the stolen Tie Fighter in the hanger escape.
I tried to find it in the trailer as that scene has been shown before, could not get the pause right, but luckily I found it via Google.
Also the image shows some of the rear strapping.
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Totally agree with this direction of a CRL, wth a combination checklist
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Stunning build from beginning to premier.
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Is it petty that when your being shot at in Fighter Squadron by the same person who is rampantly killing everybody, to fly into the ground and deny him the kill ?
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While playing the Hoth level last night I resorted to crashing a snowspeeder into the hanger entrance to clear out a bunch of stubborn snowtroopers, I felt like such a traitor
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So Shiny, stunning work
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So, I have been playing Battlefront since it's release and having great fun running about shooting everything that moves (and occasionally my own side...sorry) and had a couple of those "Wish I took a picture" moments.
1) I got blown out of a tree on Endor while using Ewoks for cover, as I watched my stormtrooper body fly through the air, it was interesting to see it's foot get snagged on a platform and the body remain there, gently swinging from side to side.
2) Again on Endor, I am sure I saw somebody hitching a ride on the top of an AT-ST as it trampled through the forest, Stormtrooper surfing ?
Oh, and Jakku is now my favourite map, it's great fun being able to run and hide behind cover as you slowly advance on the rebels..........not so much fun when a lone gunman takes you out with a sniper shot, that shiny armour sure looks bright in the desert.
Incidentally if your playing the Fighter Squadron part, and you shoot me down, I will wait for you, I will follow you, I will get revenge on you.
Anyway, back to Battlefront, there's dying to do.
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I just watched the Belgian Garrison greet the R2-D2 jet at Brussels Airport on Facebook.
Nobody was carrying blasters......you know what ?, it did not detract from what must have been an awesome event to be part of in any way.
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Whilst I have seen a lot of Shadowtrooper armour about, and have managed to be shot at by a few in Battlefront (there invisibility trick is sneaky).
I was just wondering where they were from ?, Did they appear in a book or in a game somewhere ?
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Hey Josh
Thanks for the information and photos, I think I have read and re-read your build a lot of times....and yet I still managed to miss all the information I was looking for
I think now that I have entered into the "Cannot be covered with a cover strip" phase, everything is a little bit more daunting.
All of this, and I still have not made the helmet yet......
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Well, I finished making my snap plates, oh what fun that was, especially since I decided to slightly indent the area for the back of the snap to help it lie flush with the surface, I will also be covering the back of the snaps with a small square of tape.
Now that I have ran out of delaying tactics, it's time to start assembling the main torso, however I have a few questions for anybody still reading this thread (Hello, if your reading).
I have taped the butt and kidney pieces together in what I think is there correct position, before I start to mark where I am going to glue the plates.
Question 1) Is there a recommended gap between the butt & kidney pieces ?, I was planning on trying to get them as close together as I can when I strap them together.
As you can see, since the pieces were pre-trimmed out of the box, there is a slight difference in how they fit together, one side has a bigger difference than the other.
Question 2) Should I trim the sides to make them even ?, my worry is that since I would be trimming the sides that join with the cod, I don't want to make the fit anymore snug than it already is, I can just get them together without shimming, I am going for no visible gap with my build.
Also, since the belt will cover the actual area where they come together, am I just overthinking a nothing problem ?
As everybody does, my next step was a test fit, now with trimmed cod & butt, so much more comfortable than before.
I realise the tape had decided to let go, no big problem as the fit was fine before that happened.
There's a few things I noticed when I saw the photos, first there's a very sharp corner to the edge of the butt, from other builds I can see that this area normally gets trimmed to a slight curve, going to have to do that.
Also when I attached the rear upper back to the kidney, it made the shoulders not fit over or close to my shoulders, the back bulged out from my body, creating a very visible gap, the chest did this also.
Question 3) Should the upper back be attached against the kidney piece or should there be a gap ?, I have seen both, but my preference has always been no gap or minimal.
I will be trimming the bottom "spur" off the back, to give it a better shape and fit, as seen in other builds.
Question 4) Once I begin trimming the shoulder supports, am I right in thinking this will improve the fit of the upper back and chest and bring them closer to my body ?
I am also going to reduce the width of the return edges to make the pieces a bit more uniform and flexible, possible tapering the ends to almost no return.
My other thought was to try and bend them slightly with boiling water, but I feel that's going too far.
Whilst I realise the shoulder bridges cover these points, I really don't want to trim too much, so that the gap over my shoulders looks too large, although again I cannot find a definitive size of gap and it looks just like a fit for comfort issue.
Thank you if your still reading, any & all input or advice is always welcome.
Artshot's ANH Stunt Build (AM 2.0)
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Whilst it took me seven attempts to glue one of my forearms to a fit I was happy with and I was close to putting everything in a box and forgetting about it, after my fighting with my back plate this afternoon, I am remembering my forearms with a fondness now....sigh