tkrestonva[TK] Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Cut up a cheap FOR SALE sign for the inside reinforcing strips, and save the good stuff for the exterior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) Thanks....that's exactly how I see it. When I assembled the biceps I used what I cut off the molded overlapping edge for use as the inside shim. But i'm going with For Sale sign especially for the shins and thighs since they're longer. By the way, trimmed away the V-cuts this morning. I like the look and I'm sure it'll give me added comfort. Edited April 16, 2012 by silverBoyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theisaac Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 I am building the same kit and I used the "for sale" sign on the inside shims of all of the butt joints. Biceps, forearms, shins. I used e6000 to glue the shims butt jointed. I let them cure for a few days and used the extra ABS that comes for the belt since im using a cloth belt for the cover strips. I can open them and get them around my legs without breaking the seam in the front. I have some thick shins too so it will work just fine if that was what your question was. I have put them on and off all weekend test fitting the back and havent had an issue. Good luck man, looking great so far! Isaac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 The flexible front seam was my concern. I'm currently letting the shims on the shins cure overnight. I'm starting the thighs right now. I work very slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 The flexible front seam was my concern. I have very solid calves. I'm currently letting the shims on the shins cure overnight. I'm starting the thighs right now. I work very slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theisaac Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Slow is the way to roll with it Jason. My thoughts on mine is that I only get to build it once and this is my first. There isnt a race to the finish line. I want to be proud of each and every little part when I look at it in pictures with me wearing it. I dont think that will happen with my obsession but still. No need to rush on it. Enjoy the build buddy! Isaac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I'm the same way. This will be my only kit for a long while so I want to get everything as perfect as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Last night I glued on the outer cover strips for both shins. I'll post pics later once I get the clamps and what not off of them. Now just to attach the Velcro to the rear shin opening and attach the rear cover strip. I have to say, I tried patiently to try to cut the cover strips as straight as I could get them with the score n snap method....but no matter how slow I did it it still have a few flaws. I doubt anyone will be able to spot them but I know they aren't perfect. I sanded the flaws and they look better now. On to the thigh pieces. When I did a test taping to my own thigh I noticed that the AM thighs are very long. I need to test fit the thighs while wearing my front cod piece as well as the shins I think. Fromt what I can tell, I'm going to have to trim off at least a good inch or more from the tops because as they are now I gaurantee that they will interfere with the lower torso/cod piece. But one good thing that may come from having to trim the tops of the thighs...I can now give both the left and right thigh armor tops the proper look as seen on the Sandtroopers in A New Hope. When I do trim the thigh tops I know the return edge will be gone. That's 501st acceptable right? I just don't want to go through the hassle of buying an iron to recreate return edges and risk ruining the ABS armor. Edited April 19, 2012 by silverBoyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkrestonva[TK] Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 . When I do trim the thigh tops I know the return edge will be gone. That's 501st acceptable right? I just don't want to go through the hassle of buying an iron to recreate return edges and risk ruining the ABS armor. Absolutely 501st acceptable. Not only that, about the only people who will even know the difference are those who tend to hang out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) not bad, huh? Edited April 20, 2012 by silverBoyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Starting to trim up my ab/cod piece. I know that I don't need the underside of the cod to extend this far. But would it be ok if I trimmed it out where I have the blue line shown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theisaac Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yup, you'll want to remove the hyman there. Walk around with it for about 3 minutes and you'll see why. Everyone puts a rivet there to connect the elastic to the back of the butt piece too. So consider that before you cut. Take a look at Pandatroopers build and when he shows his strapping system you can see where he cut his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkrestonva[TK] Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Use the archive photos as a reference: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Thanks for the archive photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Here are some pics of my progress so far... MTK Helmet is 100% completed (handpainted "decals", 8 teeth cut from frown, flat dark green lenses, fan system, hard hat liner installed) Biceps (assembled using butt-joint method w/ outer cover strips) Shoulder Bells (return edges trimmed...length to be determined) Forearms (return edges removed...awaiting butt-joint assembly) Ab / Cod Piece (return edges trimmed...crotch strap rivets and Sandtrooper buttons to be added) ***Chest Piece and Ammo Belt shown were just to give me an idea of how it looked. Haven't done anything to them yet.*** One question regarding the forearms. I've read lots of forearms where people have asked about the size of the wrist openings. I have a pair of the black latex gloves with the rubber handguards attached to them on order. Are the gloves worn before slipping on the forearms or can you put the gloves on afterwards? Edited April 21, 2012 by silverBoyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkrestonva[TK] Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Forearms go on first, then you put the gloves on and get an assistant to stuff the excess into the forearm armor. So make the wrist openings as small as you can while still being able to get your ungloved hand through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) Thanks...that was the answer I was looking for. I was trying to imaging being able to stuff the lower half of gloves inside the forearm. Think I may try to work on the forearms tonight. Here are some shots of the first trimming of my forearm. Seems like I need to taper the cuts of (1) of the forearm halves to be able to bring the wrists in nicely. I took an inch from both sides and they're too opened @ the wrists. Just took the clamps off from the sniper plate. Looks good. I tried on my shin and I am glad that the E6000 and the butt-joint shims hold on nicely and the shin open up quite a bit for me. Also, I hit up my local fabric store and picked up my heavy duty snaps for all of my armor strapping as well as some white canvas that I will cut to size and stitch the edges for my Sandtrooper shoulder straps. I'll have plenty more canvas leftover so I may do a run of canvas straps in the future. I'll keep you all posted if I do that. Edited April 22, 2012 by silverBoyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theisaac Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 ya man, you can trim a lot from the wrist part of the forearm. I would cut somewhere along the line I drew here... and then if you are butt joining them then trim the overlap down a little and use the "forsale" sign under it to glue each side to. Then you will glue the cover stip over the seam.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedicouncil333[TK] Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Hi Jason, Looks like you've made a good start. I did the same with my AM shins cover strips on both sides of the front of the shin. I would advise to buy some more ABS sheets from a craft shop / website to ensure a secure bond with the shin pieces. Once it has been glued and gone off it is suprising how strong the butt joint is. Strong enough for you to open it up to go over your shin / boots. Also your right taking some of the material off the tops of the back of the shins will really help with comfort when moving about Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 I got the Velcro and cover strip on the rear of my right shin but i just tried on the left shin (which also has my TD sniper knee plate) and I'm finding that every step I take....the sniper kneeplate hits my knee. Anyone else have this problem? I'm thinking I may also have to come up with a way to add an inner shim perhaps. The fronts are already glued and cured and I think i need to come up with a way to add an iner shin to the inside of my left shin. Any ideas? I feel like the back is just closing around my calf. I'm worried that it won't look good if it doesn't close all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 My wife helped me size up the forearms again. I haven't trimmed them yet. Wanted to get an ok that they look ok. Also decided to throw on my bicep and MTK helmet just for fun. Feels like the forearms fit better and I don't think I'll have to taper the cuts. What you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkrestonva[TK] Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Still looks a little too big at the wrists, especially in that last photo. When fitted properly, you should just barely be able to get your ungloved hand in/out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverBoyd[501st] Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 As it is now...I bend my thumb into my palm and I have to squeeze my hand in and out of the wrists. Plus there's just enough left to tuck my gloves into Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkrestonva[TK] Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Then it sounds like you've got the fitting about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theisaac Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Your bicep needs to be rotated about another 90 degrees. The U shape will go up into the armpit. When you look at the bicep there is a formed ridge that matches the ridge on the shoulder bell. Those should line up. Think of it like this... the "thumbprint" circle should face your ribcage. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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