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Posts posted by Peregrinus
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I like pushing electrons, but I'll be using the ROM at the core of all my fiddling/tricking-out endeavours but the Royal Guard. I have no p/a planned for that -- just external audio input and maybe a radio. We're about as chatty as the Buckingham Palace guards.
--Jonah
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With the teeth is it just a matter of the extra teeth being filled in? Or are they spaced differently, too?
--Jonah
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Depending on how long we're talking... A long, curved hair clip or barrette, convex side toward your neck, clip your hair, then flip it up and use more barettes or bobby pins to hold it in place. That gives you the flattest noggin. Then a balaclava over all to hide it.
--Jonah
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Non sequitur: Hoy, Tony -- you have an e-mail you need to respond to.
--Jonah
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Data points for clarity, for those who know what to make of them. ABS versus HIPS. And note that there are optional additives that can give HIPS better impact resilience, but it costs more.
Also, I scare myself with what I'm going to be doing with my armour. It'll be a foundation to build on, rather than "simply" trimming it and hanging it on me. So HIPS is more appealing to me in this instance than ABS.
--Jonah
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Another point that needs to be made is that the TE2 armor is styrene and the AP is ABS. Styrene will require painting and is a bit weaker than ABS as far as flexibility goes.
The TE2 is HIPS, which is nearly the same resilience as ABS, while being lighter and easier to work. And as seen in the TE2 helmet tutorial, Rustoleum makes a spray enamel that gives a finish identical to polished ABS. So to me, that's no concern.
--Jonah
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I won't name names, but two of my great loves are as into this as I am. As in multiple costumes. And the other is into professional theatre, and spends enough time in, around, and making costumes for work to do it in her spare time, too. *heh* But she approves of what the 501st does, and that averts her annoyance with "amateurs". I don't really think I could love someone that completely if they didn't at least have a peripheral interst in this sort of thing. Whatever other interests we had in common, or not.
--Jonah
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Our esteemed LMO was asked about the Shadow Guards specifically, and his response indicated that LFL considers FU a canon source, and thus so will the Legion. But it will take more sources to get full Legion approval for the variants that appear therein. I think the Stormtrooper Commander variants belong with the FISD. THey aren't alternate terrain or special operations mass-production variants. They're one-off individuals that are part of the regular Stormtrooper Corps -- a last gasp of the diversity that arose during the Clone Wars. And something that didn't survive to the time of the Battle of Yavin.
--Jonah
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I've been at the extreme far right of that scale since somewhere in the late '80s-early'90s. Of course, what is my ideal or impression of the Stormtrooper as icon... probably won't be everybody's ideal. My philosophy has always been "more accurate than the film version", no matter the genre. Basically, making the "real" item the prop was a quick-and-dirty representation of.
Of course, my Stormtrooper armour won't be made of plastoid composite, but you know what I mean.
--Jonah
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From where I'm standing, there are several things abou tthe currently accepted costume standards that need revising, but as with most things of this nature, there's a difference between passing an updated standard and enforcing it. The intervening time is spent educating the public (as we're doing here and on other Detachment boards).
Part of the reason it took me five years to get my initial 501st costume done is that I didn't want to waste time and money on a "passable" costume that I'd end up either discarding once I got the one I wanted, or discarding once I upgraded to a higher-quality version of what I had. I'd rather wait twice as long and get a TE2 than get an FX sooner. This is not a hobby for the impatient, and I'm more than willing to delay gratification if it means I am able to do the best damn costume I can when I'm all done.
--Jonah
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I find it rather -worthy. Stormtroopers are shock troopers. Creating another level of double-dog-shocktroopers is just silly.
--Jonah
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Like wearing a bullet-proof vest. It may stop the bullet from perforating your thorax, but it still has all its energy. So no collapsed lung, but it's still a lot like getting hit in the chest with a Buick. Yer gonna be smartin'.
As for it being called an energy sink... A lot of people misuse the term "sink" in that context. I think what they mean is dissipater or disperser. A "sink" is an attractant, and I've never seen Stormtroopers having blaster bolts arc toward their hip joints. Unless they mean they somehow magically pull the energy from a blaster bolt through the material of the armour after impact. I still prefer some other function for those things.
--Jonah
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You're not 501st until your armour's done, right? Hm... Send an e-mail to Cris Knight, the Garrison CO. He should at least be able to tell you what's going on.
--Jonah
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Just an FYI, ABS is a type of styrene.
Well, yes, but the "A" and "B" make for a completely different molecular structure than straight polystyrene or even HIPS (although added "B" helps with the "HI" part), hence this thread.
--Jonah
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I would like to add----------- so there's a bit more weight to it than just my opinion. Basic styrene isn't as resilient as ABS. HIPS is better. Especially stuff that has the rubberizing compound mixed in. The numbers are on that site.
--Jonah
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Also, there's HIPS, and then there's HIPS. *heh* For a bit more one can order HIPS extruded sheet that's had a rubberizing compound added to the initial bead mix, and ends up with impact resistance comparable to ABS. I prefer the sharper detail and lighter unit weight (HIPS is inherently lighter than ABS), and I'll take my chances with damage.
--Jonah
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Home Depot recently stopped carrying it. I asked. I prefer going to Ace anyway. Closer, friendlier, and better paint selection.
As for the painting question... A very fine-grit sandpaper or sanding film would be a good idea, after youve masked off the area to be painted, so you don't mar the white finish. Anything above 600 should be okay. You just want to give the paint more of a substrate to adhere to. Even a plastic-bonding paint will have a hard time sticking ot a polished surface. The other thing about Krylon and RustOleum's plastic-bonding paints is that they are self-priming. For the chin grille, you could just do a couple coats of gloss black. The ears would take a couple more steps, since the right shades of grey aren't available as plastic-bonding paints. I'd recommend Fusion in flat white as a first coat for the ear details, before painting them your chosen grey. And be sure to finish them with a clear gloss sealer.
--Jonah
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Sorry, was responding to kiyotei's painting of his helmet. I saw t test-assembled the day before, and know how eager he is to have a finished suit. Your overspray is an unfortunate event, but not unrecoverable.
--Jonah
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Woot! Nice feeling isn't it?
--Jonah
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I will add to that to say the extras cast for that movie were about 5'10" and about an inch or so either way. So as long as you get one of the accurate builds, you ought to be able to get it fitted correctly.
--Jonah
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That's basic Testors flat Gray -- or more precisely what they call internally "Battle Gray". It's probably the closest Testors colour fit, although there are a few right around there.
--Jonah
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That first one, of the gun crews, is so important.
--Jonah
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That's what we're shooting for. The route doesn't matter, but having more options always helps.
--Jonah
What are you doing for vox?
in Hard Armor (General Discussion)
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Just home from my six-week follow-up (and getting a filling -- yay), and I've been cleared for physical therapy. With luck and hard work, before the end of the month I'll have my core strength rebuilt to the point that I can wear that costume for more than three minutes without (literally) busting a gut.
--Jonah