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About 60%. Plus there was a lot of stuff left out. Here are the inaccurate parts. It was Matt AND Mike together who made the deal with me and Dave. The deal was for the rotj helmet, armor, as well as the anh helmet. Once GF and I realized that Matt had made deals with both parties, GF contacted Matt and complained. Matt, in an effort to appease GF, promised him that he would have the rights to make ANH style helmets and armor, and Dave and I would only be allowed to make ROTJ style. When Matt came to us and dropped this on us (after ALL the molds were paid for) naturally we told him to get bent. What nerve of him to make conditions on our molds months after we bought and paid for them. It wasn't until after we told him to piss off with that arrangement, that out of desperation lied and said that we stole the molds, and then later when proved that we did not, publicly apologized and retracted his accusation. There was no agreement for either Mike or Matt to get suits. Another one of Matt's lies. Think about it, if he still had molds (as he claims) why would he need us to send him suits? Matt wanting to get back into the armor biz, acquires a set of the converted GF armor, has it revised once again and supplemented with tour suit parts and starts making TE2 armor, which is later sold to Guns.

Honestly, after all the swearing and name calling, how is Matt not banned yet?

I also helped John authenticate his suit and was the one who discovered that his canister piece was actually an ANH canister. I can't believe that anyone, especially one who calls themselves an expert, can't see (admit) that John's suit was totally authentic. In fact, probably the most complete trooper suit outside of LFL. To offer $25k for a tour suit is ridiculous. Wow, if you think MINE is far off, then YOU haven't got a prayer.

I guess we'll just see then.

I could have swore that I heard you (or others) claim that you had the most film accurate anh style suit. I was saying that even pure rotj armor with no anh specific details is still closer to film accurate anh suits than anything scratch built. And yes, I look forward to showing those details off including some ones that I know no one has ever known about.

Anything scratch built will always be at the bottom of the barrel in terms of screen accuracy. Even the best sculptors in the world could not duplicate the surface nuance found on the original armor. Size and proportions, maybe but that's all, and I don't think the TM suit did that very well either. Adding anh specific details does not compensate or equal out the fact that it is scratch built. TM armor might look good in photos and have some of these details (although not recreated accurately), but when each piece is compared to the real stuff it totally does not hold up to close inspection. If all you've ever had was an GF/AP or TE, a lot of the originality has already been removed through means of clean up so is probably not the best comparison. However... The suckiest worst recast set of rotj armor you could find, would still have better lineage and be more film accurate than anything scratchbuilt. Period. Since there was never a set of original anh armor cast, the best anyone could ever hope for is an anh style set made from very carefully, minimalistically, and accurately, reverse engineered rotj molds. That's what I'm doing. But don't judge what I have now as it's not completed, but when it is done, it will be as close as anyone could possilbly get to screen accurate anh armor until an original anh set is cast.

Since I'm posting pics, here's a pic of the v2 armor test pulls. It's not finished, some parts are still rotj, and some just need redone altogether. Forearms and handplates are rotj, box knee and sniper knee need re-done. These pieces were made partially off the anh mold duplicates as well as the original rotj ones. I used the rotj molds for the pieces that aren't finished yet. -------------

I prefer not to show very big or detailed pics. Reason being that there is something special about them that proves that they are THE original molds that touched the suit and not recast molds. If anyone were to come along and claim to the contrary, I could prove they are lying. Here is a small partial photo of some of them. Best I'm willing to show for very specific reasons, but it's better than nothing. These actually touched the insides of a real suit and are the only trooper molds in fan history to do so.

Yes, they are unaltered. I have two sets of molds, the unmodified original rotj molds that touched the inside of the real suit, and another duplicate set taken from them that was reverse engineered into anh style.

No, not the same product. No one has molds equal to the ones that touched the suit. And I have them here with me.

Agreed to a point. I don't want to get into the bickering side of it either. But please don't confuse the stating of one's position as bickering. Bickering is basicly taking pot shots, and I apologize for any that I have made. Talking about history is to talk about lineage. And lineage is tied to what came first, second, etc... as well is what is closest to the originals they were taken from. Also, buyer should have the right to know what it is they are buying, and it is the responsibility of the seller to be honest about what they are selling. Exposing that Matt has not been honest about the lineage of his stuff and the molds sold to Guns, is simply a by-product of discussing the history and raises lots of questions, especially from those who were not aware.

Me too, but for like the 5th or 6th time. More like groundhog day.

I have nothing to hide. You and Mike were never promised suits. Why would you need them anyway if you had an "extra" set of molds? With every turn you contradict yourself. Also, there were never any legal papers, no lawsuit, etc... All a figment of your imagination. IF back in 1999 there would have been a lawsuit (which there wasn't), it would have been a joke because there was no stolen property to begin with. Post them here for all to see then. That's what I thought. Also, still waiting for a response to my questions about what you used for the TE2 molds. So is everyone here. After everything you've done, and the long list of innocent people you've screwed over regarding trooper molds, you have the nerve to call me the bad guy? You truly do live in bizarro world.

Just got back to this thread and whoah, someone's been busy. Not surprised that my questions have not been answered. Well Matt, seems like you've been caught up in your own tangled web of lies. I read a cool quote somewhere recently: "No man has a good enough memory to make a successful liar." -- Abraham Lincoln Something you should really think about.

Nonsense. If he would have made a new set of molds, they would have been made from his poorly vac formed parts. The same problem that GF had when making his molds. It is impossible to restore those soft poor vac formed parts back to what the actual original molds produce. Either way, it still doesn't account for the recast GF anh pieces that Matt/Dan used for their TE2 armor. Even further, if he did make a new set from those vac formed pieces, it just goes to show what a snake he was by not honoring the $xx,xxx deal that he made not to ever make parts again. This happened to myself, GF, mverta, T. Guns, and from what I hear, has plans to turn stuff over to Dan Laws to make yet ANOTHER version of molds. The line of people who keep getting screwed over by Matt is getting loooong. You're next Dan. Although unlike all the other people on that list, you've been warned.

Yes, they were the only molds and there was no duplicate set owned by anyone. What Dan worked on with Matt was not directly from the original molds. Dan, Matt, do you deny using GF's parts as a basis for your re-working? Because we can directly show that here as well as get GF directly involved to verify.

Matt hasn't had any armor molds since he sold them back in 1999. It wasn't until he sourced a set of vac formed GF version ANH armor (not molds) that he began to further re-work new "improved" anh armor molds.

Definitely not, and if they say yes, I can prove they are lying.

Dan, or Matt, please go on record and say that the TE2 molds were cast directly from the same original suit as my molds. When I say directly, I mean actually touched the insides of the real suit. Please say this so I can blow your credibility out of the water. My proof is ready and waiting. What say you? Since you can't say that, please go on record and tell us what you DID use. Again, waiting on pins and needles as are the rest of the people here.

Absolutely not. And if it came down to it, I can prove it. Also, the original molds we received were not in bad shape or warped as others have stated. We made mold duplicates of the armor molds as well so that we could have both a definitive unaltered set of ROTJ molds, as well as a duplicate set that we could do our best to reverse engineer into ANH molds. A project which to this day remains only about 80% finished.

This is where it gets deep....and long. You have to understand, back in 1999, Matt made a double deal. One with GF and one with Dave and I. Dave paid $xx,xxx for the ANH helmet mold and ROTJ armor molds, as well as the exclusive right to have the ability to make them. Once GF and I got together and realized we both made deals with Matt, GF contacted Matt very pissed off and rightfully so. We were less pissed because we knew that the vac formed pieces given to GF were crap, and we had the original molds. Either way, we were supposed to be the only ones. GF contacted Matt and complained. Matt, in an effort to appease GF, promised him that he would have the rights to make ANH style helmets and armor, and Dave and I would only be allowed to make ROTJ style. When Matt came to us and dropped this on us (after ALL the molds were paid for) naturally we told him to get bent. What nerve of him to make conditions on our molds months after we bought and paid for them. Since we weren't going to go along with this BS new plan of Matt's, he decides to go to the RPF and claim that the ANH helmet molds were stolen. Back then, Matt had been selling armor for awhile and no one knew who Dave or I was. Naturally, he had the support of the community and an all out mob was against us. Dave, at the time, had the license from New Line Cinema to make the full size B9 robots, and these allegations of stolen molds had reached the ears of the licensee. Even though the claims were bogus, Dave did not want any blemishes on his legitimate business. So since we had mold duplicates of the ANH helmet molds, he decided to squash the whole situation by arranging a deal with Matt to send back the original ones. As part of this agreement, Matt was to not ever make competing helmets ever in the future (which was part of the original agreement anyway), also that he was to issue a formal apology to the RPF stating that the molds were not stolen and that he had falsely accused him of that. Matt did this, and anyone around at the time can testify to this fact. After this incident of Matt's lies about stolen molds, there was no trust in him. As a precaution, Dave removed details from the faceplate mold and modified it so that we would know if Matt went back on his word in the future. Those molds were Dave's property, so sending them back to Matt was a courtesy only done to rid himself of the meddling Matt was causing in his real life business. And if you have not seen for yourself here on this board or had the opportunity to experience it for youself, Matt is for lack of a better description, mentally unstable, and self admittedly extremely bi-polar. I feel for him in that respect, but regardless that is no excuse to act in such ways. Long response to a short question.

Almost, I would adjust this part slightly: They sent back the face plate (modified) and cap n back to Matt. Matt recast another set of armor to get the TE2 armor and got some tour suit parts which are not accurate to any of the film suits. He then sold those molds to Guns.

BREAKTHROUGH!!

All of the hardcore trooper helmet experts agree that TM recast a faceplate for his helmet and tries to legitimize it by saying it was sculpted.

Okay, let me explain. Matt cast the original ROTJ suit. Those molds were sold to Dave and I in 1999. Before those molds were sold, he provided GF with very soft poor vac formed pieces from those molds, which GF then cleaned up and turned into ANH armor. Once Matt did not have any armor molds, he took GF's now converted ANH molds, modified them even further, and supplemented them with tour suit parts. That is what the TE2 is. Matt sold these for awhile, then declared he was leaving the hobby (again) and sold the molds/rights to T. Guns. T.Guns was lied to and told by Matt that the armor molds he was sold were the original molds from back in 1999.