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Hmm That's really strange, that blaster is even pictured in the Scope Rail chapter of my reference thread but I didn't realize that strapping was actually attached to the blaster, I have to admit that's the first time I've seen the E-11 with a sling on it, but I know the Shoretroopers do use them on the E-22 rifles so it not an impossibility I guess. I just haven't seen this anywhere in the movie or the visual guide, promotional images, action figures or anywhere else for that matter. All the slings I've seen in Rogue One are only on E-22, & E-11D blaster rifles.
Maybe it's possible they couldn't get the Shoretrooper mannequin at this event to actually hold the blaster so they just attached a sling in order to include it in the costume display? That's my guess.
On 6/7/2017 at 9:09 AM, andylah said:The image I want, the front attachment, is still not there....
I'm not sure how they did it on that costume display, like I said they may have just quickly put it on before hand as a solution to include in it the display. Which could easily be done the same way they did it on a real 9mm Sterling L2A3 Mk4 Sub-Machine Gun; It was most likely designed with a single point sling attachment on the rear end cap but if soldiers wanted a 2-point sling attachment they just hooked the other end of the sling through the receiver holes near the front bayonet lug, this row of holes is not covered with T-Track on the E-11 so it's definitely possible it was done this way. Not to be confused with the Canadian C1 version of the Sterling used for the E-11 blasters in ROTJ which actually have a D ring included at the front as well as the back.
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They also often used to the front sight guard to attach the sling, although the sight guard wasn't designed for this it was made well enough to withstand it's own weight plus a full magazine of ammunition and a bayonet. The airsoft sterling is a different story, I doubt it could withstand it's own weight well let alone all the extra components of the E-11; Scope, Counter, Flashlight, Power Cylinders, T-Track, plus mounting Rails and hardware.-----------
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You should also consider doing the Medium Eagle logo with the "HENGSTLER" text. It's very popular as well, most of the other replicas available are based on the medium Eagle logo.
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Taking this apart sucks i hate putting them back together. the laser scan wont work as well if i dont. i have 3 of each size eagles counters i hate to fowl up one of the big ones.................................
Chris keep all the pieces, if you can't re-assemble the tiny little parts into the counter after recasting it let me know. Over the years I have become quite experienced at disassembling, servicing, and reassembling the Hengstler 400 Series Counters. I have a whole new respect for watch repair technicians or anyone who works with micro mechanics.
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Mark is correct, the longest T-Track in front of the magazine should extend the full length of the receiver and cover all the holes along the left side. Also the row of holes with the bayonet lug does not have T-Track, it is left uncovered just like the E-11 blasters in ANH.
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So, back to Andy's question. Irrespective of what it is called, is there any more references to the new E-11s with the sling?
Might have to watch the movie again!
No, there is no Sling on the standard E-11, there has never been a been a sling or any reference of it. If there was I definitely would have ensured it was completely covered in this Blaster Reference Thread. Any slings you see in the photos are actually not on standard E-11 blasters. The slings are only seen on the variants E-11D and E-22.
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Wow, that's just incredible! Amazing job on the M19 replicas Chris! You are truly talented. This is so accurate, and such an awesome looking scope!
This M19 replica literally blows any other metal replicas I've ever seen out of the water! Including the cast metal Dark Energy Creations replica, that doesn't come anywhere close to the quality of this replica. This is the first time the M19 has been replicated on this level before, it's a first and the only one of it's caliber. This replica is already miles ahead of all the others, just wait until the functional lens kits are available for it!...
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Wow Jim, this looks absolutely incredible! You did an amazing job. This is officially the first ever Rogue One Stormtrooper armor available. I'm really glad you took the time to do it right, the end result is definitely worth the time and effort. It's accurate and it looks Awesome!
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On 2017-05-28 at 9:51 PM, Sith Lord said:
What are we calling this E-11? I believe Andy is referring to this 'standard' E-11 with front side flashlight, but essentially an E-11. Not sure what it is called. Possibly an E-11B. Correct Andy?
Not the Deathtrooper blaster, nor the Shorey's double decker blaster
I have no idea where they are getting the "B" from, I think someone either made that up or it's a mixup of the Deathtrooper E-11D.
Again this image is directly from the Rogue One Visual Guide and just says "E-11 Blaster Rifle"
Also I have no idea why the Shoretrooper CRL says "magazine shall be full length", I have yet to see that anywhere in the Movie, the Visual Guide, or at Celebration Europe. All the Shoretroopers with E-11 blasters are exactly identical to the Stormtoopers' blasters. In fact some of them are pictured in this blaster reference. They are basically all resin/rubber cast copies of each other.
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Thanks! We tried casting in a glossy finish with a gel coat..but it was not ideal. So this is cast in white dull flexible fiberglass.
I hope to have this all rigged up by tomorrow.
That's awesome, then all it will need is a nice gloss clear coat. I wonder which kind will be best for protecting the armor and shine up nice if you want to buff out any surface scratches, similar to using Novus Plastic Polish on ABS.
Or do you think the armor will require primer and/or paint?
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I just wanted to say you guys also did an awesome job on the Power Cylinders as well as the Flashlight Rail, I would definitely be interested in getting a 3D printed set of both for my personal airsoft based Rogue One E-11 build, maybe you could upload the files to Shapeways. They look quite accurate, great job guys!
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Yes that cropped photo of the Hengstler Counter must be a Shoretrooper E-22 blaster, understandably mistaken for an E-11 as that part of the E-22 is virtually identical. You can also see the Shoretrooper's brown MP40 magazine pouches in the photo. The Shoretroopers do also use standard E-11 blasters in the movie which means there is a possibility this could be an E-11 though I highly doubt it because I have yet see that greeblie on any of the other E-11 blasters. Although I can confirm both the Shoretrooper's E-22 and the Deathtrooper's E-11D have this greeblie.
In fact I plan on building a Deathtrooper E-11D in the future and I need to get one of these greeblies for the build, yours look Looks really good!
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On 2017-05-25 at 11:28 PM, andylah said:
thanks slyfox, the CRL for the shorey mentions says E-11B Blaster...
there isn't an accompanying photo in the CRL to explain the B designation, so came here guessing the Rogue One E11s were the same, this thread is super useful
I understand the pics used and their use and just query the sling that is also pictured to see if there were better photos of it.?
I'm waiting for an E22 as well at this point....
Well that is definitely a typo on the Shoretrooper CRL then because there is no "E-11B" that exists, I assume they meant either E-11D or E-22.
Also here is a photo of a Shoretrooper and his E-22 blaster rifle with the sling, this image is from the Rogue One visual guide.
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This Flashlight Rail looks perfect, great job!
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However I'm not sure about this greeblie which is why I didn't include it in my blaster reference thread. I don't believe the standard E-11 blaster has it, all the reference I can find in the movie and the visual guide indicates it does not have it or at least it's not consistent. It appears to be from the Deathtrooper E-11D, and the Shoretrooper E-22.
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Wow Jim, The white parts look amazing! Are they painted white, or is it cast in white fiberglass? Glossy or Matte finish?
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On 2017-05-24 at 11:38 PM, andylah said:
so there are a few pics in this thread as well as online of an e11-b with a sling, are they are any better shots of this or requirements.... I am converting another e11 into a b for a shore trooper....
Andy those photos are focusing on the resin cast power cylinders, flashlight, ect. I used them simply because they are the best photo reference available for some of these components which are all the same on a standard E-11.
There is no "E-11B" blaster that exists? I believe you are confused.
The Deathtrooper uses an E-11D blaster, and the Shoretrooper uses an E-22 blaster rifle. Both of these blasters have a sling.
I should also mention that not all Shoretroopers use an E-22 blaster rifle, some Shoretroopers use a standard E-11 blaster instead.
Deathtroopers do not use standard E-11 blasters, only E-11D or DLT-19D in addition to a SE-14r light repeating blaster for a side arm.
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The Details have already been worked out for some time now. As per the Rogue One visual guide This "Sandtrooper Type 4 Field Pack" is obviously for TDs so it will go to the MEPD detachment. While the "Crystal Patrol Duty" pack is issued to "Standard Stormtroopers" (TKs) so it will belong to the FISD detachment.
These images are from the Rogue One visual guide.
As you can see this pack is called a "Sandtrooper Type 4 Field Pack". As such this pack will belong to MEPD.
As you can see, the article clearly states the "Crystal Patrol Duty" pack is issued to "Standard Stormtroopers". As such this pack will belong to FISD.
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Just look at the air bubbles/voids on the power cylinders, clearly a recast part with obvious casting defects.
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The Shepperton Design Studios E-11 Blaster is made of plastic infused with a dense foam filler. The power cylinders on the Rogue One E-11 were probably not taken directly from the SDS blaster but likely recast in resin or rubber.
As I'm sure you're aware recasting anything introduces many variables that considerably affect the overall scale such as; Volume, Temperature, ect. This may explain why the cylinders seen on screen are a slightly different size than an actual pair of SDS power cylinders. The same reason a DoopyDos resin blaster is a little smaller than a real Sterling Sub-Machine Gun.
It's likely the prop department only had one SDS blaster from which they cast many pairs of power cylinders as well as T-Tracks for all the props.
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On 2017-05-16 at 6:14 PM, bishopx said:
This a a ton of great info. Has anyone definitively located the correct picatinny rail? Are we sure it's Weaver?Jo
Thanks John
The true origins of the flashlight rail has yet to be positively identified. Which is why the reference thread states "Weaver/Picatinny similar to this". I am not ruling out the possibility that it could be a Weaver type rail.
This really is the closest thing anyone has found so far, it's short, it has the same tapered ends, and the correct bolt hole locations.
The only inaccuracy is that the corners are rounded off, where as the screen used rails appear to have sharper corners as you can see.
Here are some more images of the short airsoft rail. Again it's very close, but it does not appear to be the exact same one used on screen. Look at the smaller 3-slot rails in these images, notice the rounded corners.
Fortunately you don't really see the flashlight rail all that much anyways, so these will be perfectly acceptable for approval in the CRL.
By all means keep searching for anything more accurate and definitely let me know if you make any interesting discoveries.
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All correct parts so far! Keep it up and this will make for one very accurate Rogue One E-11.
I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
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Wow, this is awesome! You really did a great job on the rubber R1 E-11. It looks awesome, and it's accurate too.
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Thank you so much for assembling this info. It will be a great help to us.
You're absolutely welcome, it was my pleasure.
Nathan you should definitely start a new build thread of your own in this section of the Weapons Locker. It will help us all to get the ball rolling as It's still a fairly new subforum at this point. I've seen photos of your ANH version that you did recently and I must say it's pretty impressive! Probably the best looking rubber cast I've ever seen, or resin for that matter. Troopers will notice the quality of your work so it's definitely in your best interest to start a new topic and show it off a bit.
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Nathan you should definitely be starting a new build thread in the "R1 BlasTech E11" section of the Weapons Locker subforum; http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/forum/181-r1-blastech-e11/ We need more build threads to get the ball rolling at this point as the topic is still fairly new.
Show all your collected parts and progress, troopers will notice the quality of your work trust me, do the same for your ANH version too if you still have any photos of the process. Only make sure to do that one in the appropriate ANH BlasTech E11 section of the weapons locker.
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Nathan I seen your post on facebook about making the Rogue One version of the BlasTech E-11. I also seen that you already acquired the S&T Airsoft Sterling and some other parts. If you need any reference our detachment leader has put me in charge of creating an official Rogue One E-11 Blaster Reference; http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/41271-rogue-one-e-11-blaster-reference/
Check out the thread and let me know what you think.
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ROGUE ONE E-11 BLASTER REFERENCE
in R1 BlasTech E11
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Chris Trevas from "Parts of Star Wars" has positively identified the Flashlight Rail. It is a Unmark System Rail base for 416 Black(GTA1193)
http://www.greenbase.hk/Unmark-System-Rail-base-for-416-Black-GTA1193-
It appears to be correct and 100% accurate to the screen used flashlight rails. I will update the main post to reflect this discovery.
Every single component of the Rogue One E-11 blaster has now been positively Identified, thanks to Chris for this! He is actually the same guy who identified the Flashlight itself as well.