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Watching with interest!
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Here's the second forearm--trimmed, reinforcement strips & 15 mm cover strips--curing for the next couple of days!
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After trimming all the edges of the forearms for better accuracy, I tried the one that I had already glued together to see how it looks/fits...
The wrist circumference is much bigger than it was originally. But as predicted, my hand can squeeze through there a lot easier than before. I hope the overall length isn't too short.
Any thoughts?
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I decided to bite the bullet and trim this forearm using a "blade knife-dremel-sandpaper" combo...
Here's what the finished edge looks like so far. I think a little bit of sanding, here and there, will pretty it up!
All I need to do now is do the same thing for the wrist edges and this piece is pretty much done (except for adding snaps).
Noob Tip: This is NOT the correct way for doing this! Don't make the mistake I made by gluing everything together before making a decision to trim things up! Originally, I couldn't make up my mind to go screen accurate with these or trudge ahead and leave them "as-is." Once I realized I could go for accuracy, I had to take a step backwards with pieces that I had already glued together. Even though I managed to achieve what I wanted to do, I would have saved a lot of time and frustration had I trimmed these pieces prior to gluing them together.
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I laid the trimmed piece over the pieces that are already glued together and drew lines with a pencil to see where I need to make the cuts in order for both arms to match up in length. I'm trying to think of a way to trim these edges without pulling them apart. I'm not sure if I should make an attempt to use my blade or the Lexan scissors. I'm more concerned with the cover strips... that's three layers of plastic!
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Here's another comparison between the forearms that have had all the edges trimmed and the piece that is still intact...
Elbow edges.
Wrist edges.
I still have no idea how to trim the forearm that's already glued together. I really wish I had made this decision earlier
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So I've trimmed both the wrist and elbow edges on the forearm to be more screen accurate--the ridges now run the full length of the piece. I cut away the inner wrist edge (the same amount that I cut from the outter piece) and when I stand both pieces side by side, I see that I need to trim a bit off the inner piece at the the elbow...
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Okay, I gotta admit that I'm really excited that I made the decision to trim these edges! I measured three times, cut once and used some 220 grit paper to sand the edges nice and smooth...
In case anyone is following my build, for their own suits, allow me to show a side by side comparison of what this looks like between trimming the edges and leaving them alone...
With the forearm that's already built, I WAS able to squeeze my hand through the wrist--it's tight but I can get my hand in there! Now, with the edges trimmed back, I'll have a little more wiggle room for getting my mitts through the wrists.
When it comes time to submit my applications for badges, the jury can't argue that there's any return edges there!
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I apologize for not keeping on top of my own buil thread. BAD MEMBER!! BAD!!!!
Anyway, after a lot of consideration regarding the edges on my forearms, I think I'm feeling comfortable enough to trim them back to be more screen accurate. I looked at the forearms and realized the amount I would trim isn't as much as I was perceiving.When I look inside the forearm piece, there's are some pretty obvious ridges that tell me where I would cut. I actually measured them and if I were to cut the excess off BOTH edges it's only about 22 mm...
Which DOES add two more questions now...
1) Do I trim the edges back at the elbow end to match the wrist edges? What I find interesting is that when I stand both pieces on end, the outter piece is slightly longer then the inner piece. I was worried that if I trim the outter edge that I would have to trim the inner piece as well but I don't know if that would be the case...
2) I have one forearm already built with the cover strips (and inside strips). Am I still able to cut those edges? I'm kinda scared to dismantle it since it's already been cured for a couple of weeks now. -
Finished forearm after curing...
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Hi Eric. I am also building an RT-Mod kit right now. I have been following your build. I saw your question above about the return edge on the wrist and if it will risk Centurion approval. I saw in a post requesting Centurion approval (link below) who received feedback on his wrist return edge that required correction.
Check out the Centurion approval comments from gazmosis and you'll be able to see the return edge picture as well.
http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/28177-tk-80806-requesting-anh-stunt-centurion-status-ata141/
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I appreciate your feedback, Rod. My dilemma doesn't so much pertain to the return edges at the wrists. As a matter of fact, I've already trimmed them off so they're nice and smooth. On the RT armor, the forearms don't have the "ladder tracks" extending all the way to the edges like so...
It's much more screen accurate to shorten the forearms so the tracks end at the edges. If you look at the picture above, I'd have to trim off that pale blue area which would shorten the lengths of my forearms quite a bit which would result in a bad fit.
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Here's one of the forearms with the glue curing. Reinforcement strips on the inside and screen accurate 15mm cover strips on the outside with butt joint edges...
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Due to an exhausting work week, I've been a bit absent from the forums. I'm back and working on my build, once again! I'm still working on the arm pieces and I'm still not sure what to do with the wrist edges on my forearms. I'm familiar with the screen accurate edges but I'm worried that if I trim them down, my forearms are going to be too short. At the same time, however, I'm not sure whether leaving them intact will jeopardize Centurian approval.
I'm fitting the biceps together for measurements and I wanted to know if there should be any return edges. Same for the shoulder bells. The CRL doesn't specify return edges for these parts but I wanted to know if it's common to trim the return edges for the shoulder bells and the biceps.
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The original forearms did not have the "square indent ridge " end on both the wrist and the elbow sides so if trim that off you will be fine. As for the 35 mm ridge, if you still have excess room in your forearm, trim the ridge on the top of your arm down to the 15mm and leave the underside as it is.
image.jpgAs of right now, my forearms still have the square indent ridge on them. Is it a Centurian requirement to trim that off? I think I may have managed to get the outside/inside edges down to 15 mm with cover strips.
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Thanks, guys for the feedback. Fortunately, Rob didn't leave much of a return edge on the arm pieces. I did, however, run some 220 grit paper over the edges to remove what little return edges there were. I gotta say that helps quite a bit on minimizing palm scraping on my hands. I've not cut any material from the joint edges but I managed to tape the forearms up to what it should look like with the 15 mm cover strips. It's a lot tighter fit--no sloppiness and although the wrist is a lot smaller in dimension I can still get my hand through it.
After looking at a couple of RT Centurians, I can see where some have left the length of the forearms untrimmed and still got approved. I do need to cut one more cover strips and then I'll start work on trimming down the butt edges before I begin gluing them together.
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So I've basically started the preliminary fitting stages with the bicep and forearm. Using untrimmed pieces, I've simply taped a butt joint to get an idea of how the "out of the box" measurements will look and feel. It's difficult taking pics when I'm doing it by myself but here are my initial thoughts so far...
Untrimmed and butt-joined, there's approximately a 35 mm distance where the cover strips would lay. It's also the same width on the forearm pieces as well...
If I were to follow the standard 15 mm coverstrip widths for the arms, I'd have to trim 20 mm off the butting edges (10 mm on each edge).
Thanks to Anheuser Busch, I maintain most of my size in my upper body which leaves my arms and legs slightly out of proportion. Looking carefully at the forearm I can see it's quite loose at this point.
Granted, I may not be properly fitting myself the way I should--I'm not using any strapping at this point. If I let my arm down, gravity takes over and the forearm drops down to my wrist like so...
My preliminary fear is that the length of the forearm is too short. Perhaps you can offer your opinions. I was kinda looking forward to cutting off some of the return edge at the wrist to make it more screen accurate.
If, however, my forearms are all the way at the wrist, untrimmed, there's a gap between the bend in my elbow and top edge of the forearm. Something tells me I might have to trim just the return edges and leave the length alone.
Speaking of return edges, the Centurian guidelines say that no return edge on the inside of the front of the forearm is allowed. Does that mean that a return edge on the outside of the forearm IS required? Seems to me like it would look much better to trim the return edges on BOTH the inside and the outside of the forearms.
Anyway, feedback is welcome. I'm not trimming anything until I get some input from the group!
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Once again, it's Saturday morning and I've come to the conclusion that this suit isn't going to build itself. With the wife at work, I was free to enjoy a bit of "me time" and start off my day with a bit of retail therapy.
Here's my undersuit which I found at Kohl's using my wife's employee discount. It's a two-piece set and works more like cold weather garments than anything else. The material has moisture management, flat seams, UV protection, tag free, and also keeps the odors down. I'm not going to post images of me in the undersuit because of my Budweiser-toned physique that would just be... well, totally gross.
Anyhoo. I also managed to make a stop at Wally Mart where I found a really nice cordless, two-speed Dremel, some sandpapers, the infamous blue masking tape and my very own tube of e6000. I then stopped off at Lowe's where I found the clamps I was looking for...
With that in mind, I'm thinking about starting some prefiting with the arms. Will post more later.
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willkommen oliver to the FISD!
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Greetings Gavin! Welcome to the FISD!
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Greetings Matt! Welcome to the FISD!
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If I were to go with the screen accurate bracket system, would I still require a lot of snaps? I see Mr. No stripes has the brackets I've been looking for!
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Greetings Joshua, and welcome to the FISD!!!
Late next year is pretty ideal. You may have heard that there's some big "Star Wars Thing" happening in December 2015.
Imperial Bake Sale? Ya know we do have cookies.
Just sayin'
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Greetings Peter! Welcome to the FISD! Feel free to ask any questions you might have.
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I appreciate your kind feedback, Rod. More to come soon!