Zinfer
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I'll look into that. I've also got the 20's on their way for arrival next Friday. Half tempted to replace the belt though since that earlier episode. If only I could, but with RS down...bleh. I could only order like a set of 10 I think for like $7.00 or so. You seem to have hundreds. Nice score! These are the Tandy ones I've got coming. I got confused on ebay when they started asking what size post...
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2 hours ago, gmrhodes13 said:
With your belt have you added some curve, as any sideways pressure on pops or snaps will make it come loose.
No I didn't go out of my way to add any curvature. I've not even seen a suggestion for that in any tutorials. It's always lain flat. Are you suggesting doing that?
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So today the final internal cover strip for the thigh is done cooking. Installed the loop in the right thigh as I don't have enough magnets to do both. I also am attempting to correct the misaligned outer cover strip for the right shin. Although it doesn't leave me but a sliver of room for a velcro strip at the bottom. Ordered some Line 20 snaps last night. I'm not sure what is wrong with the button snaps but they're just plain not holding the belt on. I don't know enough about how these snaps work, but it's just not a firm snap so looking at replacing both with something a little more robust. Could be a pain to drill out if I catch that cloth of the belt with a drill it could ruin it.
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I ordered some of these tonight. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Line-20-Snaps-Nickel-Plated-10-pk-By-Tandy-Leather-1261-02/301524925466?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
The final Thigh is curing overnight. On to the thigh straps beginning tomorrow. I'm going to write Ritchie to see how just that one single strap has worked out for him but his response will probably come way after I've finished. I think I like CableGuys' idea of using velcro in the center. I've resisted putting snaps on the arms and legs and just went ruff and ready as Rob had. I may change that up later on.
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So here's my next problem with the belt. It utilizes some button snaps that honestly just seem inadequate. I press them on, they then pop back out. So first I considered replacing these with Line 24 snaps. Something a little more beefy. However, examining these button snaps a little closer, I'm wondering if I bent those internal pins inwards a little more, would they tend to snap on and hold better? I've not encountered something like this before. Anyone found a solution for this or am I on the right track of replacing them with line 24's?
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20 minutes ago, CableGuy said:
Honestly Rodney, there is nothing wrong with what you have. The ones on set were all slightly different, so there is not “one style” that you have aim for. As per the photos I posted above, those were all a little different.
Here’s my own sniper knee compared with originals. The sniper knee does not 100% line up with the shin ridge, however, neither do many of the originals.
Don’t sweat it just over this part. You’re doing a fantastic job - keep it up. :-).
Also, regarding the thigh elastics at the top, just go with the method you prefer. For my first suit, I actually folded over and use some snaps / poppers to allow adjustments if needed. For my latest suit, I glued the loops, like Rob does.
As long as you don’t have visible fixings, any of these methods would be okay. :-)Thanks bud. So I've moved on to getting the inner reinforcement cover strips to the thighs. I cracked another 2 magnets. That's like 3 down now. Ordered another set of 10 but it's going to arrive too late to help glue down the elastics to the thighs. Going with N50's this time around so as not to have to stack. Waiting to break a finger or a bad pinch with those. Makes me nervous with going with a single elastic's tension rather than Rob's doubling up on them. But my sister did alot of sewing of those loops. If not enough tension it'll ride down my legs into the knee joint and shins. Again, always having those second thoughts on procedure before I do it.
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So ok; Question. On the thigh Elastics, the way Rob does it is just folding the 16" of Elastic over and CA glueing thus creating a loop at the top. The way RichieStromtrooper does it is sew a loop and then glue the rest internally/cut off the unneeded length. I chose the sewn method. Will there/Is there a problem with this method? Which method did you do? Will the lack of added tension of 2 elastics be of any concern? What is the most widely used effective method?
I guess I'm asking the same question twice for clarity, but the way I plan on doing it is sewn and E6000. Trimming about 8" off at the bottom. Am I doing this wrong?
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Stupid Shins. I toldja this was gonna be hard! Andrea is not taking any orders so I'm going to have to call the sniper knee good until a fitting can be done. I'll go ahead and take the fitting photos and after that may need to peel the CS off that rear shin and try again. There's not much room to play with back there.
I don't even recall making that cut on the sniper knee. I think it came like that. The only trimming I did was the bottom where it mates up to the 2 halves of the shin. I'll dig through some old photos.
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4 hours ago, CableGuy said:
Personally, I can’t see that your GML would have a problem with your sniper knee plate. Given the inconsistency of the screen used ones, many of which did not align with the shin ridge, I’d find it very harsh if they did.
Yea this is just becoming too damn hard man. Doing my best, yet not good enough so...very disheartening. Thanks for your help Cable and not pickin at me. Prolly end the build here and just continue it with my Garrison and their input. This gettin a little crazy. I can't simply replace things after the RS fire. Andrea was a little miffed I even inquired about the sniper knee. This is gettin just a little crazy when the actual screen costumes NEVER went this far in accuracy.
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Ok, I have contacted my local Garrison GMLs.
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2 hours ago, gmrhodes13 said:
Looks better, again it depends if your GML picks it up at basic approval, you may be ok. I would think it would be mentioned at EI and a possible hold up for Centurion, but that depends on the DO's.
I've been running this build thread through my local Garrison as well. I'm not near ready to submit anything though. I need to lose some weight before I plan on doing that. After I get the garter on for the thighs I plan on another round of fitting shots. I may need to do something with that shin yet if it looks tremendously wonky. Your opinions are valued highly.
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Best I can do on the sniper knee without replacing it and that currently is unable to be done due to the fire at RS Propmasters. So, I've adjusted it as high as what follows the contours of the knee. I can't order another one since the fire at RS.
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12 hours ago, gmrhodes13 said:
I prefer no sticky back as being hot here it can come loose over time, i glue with E6000
Yea I was going to ask about that. I've heard people recommending to use E6000. Wondering if E6000 can be applied over the stickyback.
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Ordered a roll of Velcro Industrial Strength White 'Low-Profile' for the shins. Anyone have any experience with that tape?
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Let me run a fit first Gmrhodes before I tear off that outer CS. Limited on Magnets. In the middle of installing inner cover strips for strength and reinforcement of the thighs and shins. Then I can glue in my belt loops to the thighs and do a thigh and shin overall fit photo shoot.
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1 hour ago, gmrhodes13 said:
When I added my coverstrips I glued them on an angle, this helps to give a straighter look at the base of the shins, otherwise they appear twisted.
Using velcro all the way will give a better look, yes there will be a small gap with velcro but with using a full piece you won't see the gaps. It's why we overlap outside over inside so the public don't see.
Looks like you may have trimmed a little too much of the top sides of your sniper plate
You want to try and pull the sniper plate up so it covers the ridge behind (as much as possible), clamps, magnets and tape can help. A couple of RS comparisons
Well I removed and used some heat on the inward slope of the two sides. Reglued., following the curves as high as I could. I don't know if I can improve on it any further. I also don't know if E6000 is going to be able to hold the form short of using CA. That top edge really rides the top of the shin mold. Very plausible I may have trimmed the sniper knee a bit close. I can try to contact RS and order a new one. as for the shin rear cover strip. I can try to remove that and reset it but I have to be careful there's enough room for a velcro strip. As I stated earlier when I used heat to align the top of the ridges together, it twirked the bottom to the left a bit more than I'd like. I never trimmed that corner it was that close to center. I would have preferred a roll of the velcro, but Menards only had the small strips (like 4") I'll see if I can find a roll now somewhere or order it online.
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The Left Shin wrap up. Final trimming of the sniper knee. Absolutely NO edge trim. Attempting to get this on correctly. It's a little off on appearance from the inside because of the mismatch of the RS front and rear seams of the shin, adjusted with heat. This is my first close up of the sniper knee, so I'm hoping I've got this on there well with the E6000 glue. It would always slide out of place using clamps and my magnets were busy on another piece. Down to tape.
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Trying to wrap up the Shins. Here's the progress on the right. Cut and inserted a second cover strip inside front to reinforce and strengthen the joint. Also examining the appearance of the velcro under the rear coverstrip. Still debating velcro or elastic pins. Bit of a gap with the velcro.
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Slow day today. Everything's E6000 curing. Working on both shins at the same time. I am not real happy with the looks of the velcro as it has a revealing thickness even under the rear coverstrips. But I feel the elastic ribbons would be a real PITA to get the pins through the holes and get on. If anyone has the elastic pins, how do yours work? Are they a real challenge to get on x2?
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Final cuts on the Left Shin. Same heating on the shin to get it to align with the upper section.
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4 minutes ago, CableGuy said:
Hehe. Yes, we do tend to aim for more troop-ability with our kits rather than a few weeks being thrown around on set. ;-)
I’m sure you already know, but, the reason they are opening when the troopers run is because the original screen used calves were using elastics and bra hooks. The elastic gave a nice amount of “give” at the rear of the calves, making it easier to move.
This is why I did a hybrid in that video. Velcro top and middle (adhered direct to the armour), then elastics with the Velcro attached to the elastics for the bottom one. Made walking so much easier for my as you have a little give at the ankle, so the inner and outer parts can move and open, then the elastic pulls them back together. :-)Actually I didn't realize they opened up to that degree. I'll have to save that baggie of elastics if I change my mind later. I haven't had to climb stairs or matter of factly, even walked in them to any great degree. So that's all ahead of me I hope.
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10 hours ago, CableGuy said:
Hi Rodney,
For the Velcro fixings, personally, I don’t find it necessary to have Velcro all the way from top to bottom. One at the top, one in the middle and one at the bottom is enough. I also have an elastic tab with snaps/poppers attached to the rear of the boot (attached to inside of shin) to stop the shins from twisting.
However, Velcro has no give. So, I found that when I tried to navigate stairs, for example, the lack of flex at ankle could cause the snap to undo, which was a pain.
So, I went for a hybrid method, using Velcro at the top and middle, then Velcro on elastic tabs at the bottom to allow some give. This is a half way house between the Velcro method and the original elastic and bra hooks method.
Skip to around 3:00 to see thighs and shins with a visual look at the hybrid method;Oh I see what you did there. That made me go out and double check my Torso. You have an additional snap on the right side from kidney plate to cod piece, towards the bottom. I only have 1 on the top of the kidney plate. I must have missed that memo. A second would help it look more straight. I've got the same thing going on with my main hinge. It looks a little wonky. But that could be that extra tire I've got carrying around with me.
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I don't really want to veer off at this point, but the Thigh garter belt straps are being sewn and started in on measuring and marking the left shin for cutting. Waiting on the Right shin rear CS to dry throughout today. Just doing some thinking ahead. I am going to need to re-tackle the main belt. While it was mounted on the mannequin, I attempted to snap those little button hole snaps and they absolutely would not stay attached for one reason or another. Wouldn't it be more robust to put one of those snaps on there than that tiny little button hole snap? I'm not sure why mine aren't staying attached more firmly. I get one on - move to the other to attach that and the 1st one falls out and belt to the floor. I like CableGuys idea of velcro in center but that's mainly cosmetic for the buttons.
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3 hours ago, Daetrin said:
It's really a personal preference. I use velcro all the way up, but also don't feel bound to have it close perfectly. In ANH they do not, so I don't sweat it either. Also at my height (6'0 and long legged), I could never get TE-derived shins to fit me so simply got a set from RT and later TM instead. I'm impressed by all the work you are putting in - way beyond the usual.
Wow, thanks Daetrin! I just ask an absurd amount of questions so props go to you guys here. First time I've ever done this and I'm just soaking it in like a sponge. I like to know every bit before I tackle each item and be certain what I'm doing. Once sure, I tear straight into it. Sometimes half-hazardly. I was honestly shocked when I saw this piece after all this shin work I've been reesearching. These costumes we're making are actually BETTER than what was originally seen.
What have I gotten myself into?
in ANH (Stunt and Hero)
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Finished the elastic straps for the Thighs. Applied all Velcro to both shins last night. Ready for a fitting sometime today. Next up is reworking the belt snaps for the torso ammo belt. Snaps coming in by Thursday/Friday this coming week.