Cheers Tim, I noticed the shoulder straps in this shot sitting up like that. I have other shots that have it sitting better (I thinks it's just the way it's sitting in this pic), but I'll look into it... I'm wanting to put together a DLT 19 for centurion, but I don't know if I'll ever achieve it, as I don't think I can full fill the abs/ kidney plate 'gap' ctrl without shims, but in saying that I've tried to build to centurion controls just to make it as accurate as possible, so I'm happy.