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Note:This is the first post i made on this site so i'm not sure if i'm posting this under the right thread.

 

I've decided i want to buy a storm trooper armor kit (i'm going to make the purchase in May when more funds free up) and i want to know if i'm making the right choice. 

 

I plan on buying it from tkarmour.com. They are currently offering a buy one get one deal for $700 plus shipping and tax. I have sent several emails to them asking details about the kit and what it includes. According to them it includes all parts, not counting under suit, shoes, or blaster, to build two suits with helmets. Based on my admittedly novice appraisal the kit looks to be of sound construction and good quality.  My question is, given the price and requirements of a kit, would this be the best option for me?

 

To make it clear, my goals in buying this kit are:

1. To wear at events (conventions and the sort)

2. Being able to join the 501st.

 

Please let me know if this kit would not meet my goals.

Kit: http://tkarmour.com

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From "Where, What and Whom to Avoid When Buying":

By RogueTrooper

Unscrupulous Individuals and Websites to avoid:

MIMIC

TK Armour UK (see link)

Star Fortress A.K.A. Nexus_enterprising A.K.A. Starbays (on etsy)
Matt Gauthier (TE)
www.stormtroopershop.com A.K.A. Jedi-Robe

 

lowcost-armors.com

All the names to avoid may not be listed above. But, when in doubt, seek advice by posting before purchasing or bidding.

Remember, the best advice is always deal with vendors that have a good reputation and are on the vetted list. It will save you a lot of headaches and money.

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Unfortunately, TKArmour is not on the vetted sellers list, and therefore should be avoided.  

 

Also, to clarify, is it $700 for TWO kits?  Because that's a HUGE red flag right there.  The average OT TK kit is in the $600 - $800 range per single kit.  The armor is not easy to produce and is also a niche market, which is in turn reflected in the price.  I am very suspicious of any vendor selling a kit for under the above range, let alone two for that range.  (An exception would be an individual offloading their singular kit and putting it at a priced-to-sell point.)

 

Check out "The various types of armor and where to find them" for further information on vetted vendors, styles, which works best for which body type/height, budget, etc.  

 

I have a few that I always recommend- RT-Mod and AM.  I have AM and love it- going strong for three years and counting!  While they are perfect for taller and/or larger troopers, they can be trimmed to fit any size trooper.  I do not recommend Anovos (aNOvos) due to their serious customer service and quality control issues (and I think they're overpriced).  I'm also not a huge fan of RS Props, because I find them overpriced and I've seen issues with the chest plates due to the thickness (or thinness) of the plastic.  Another option is WTF: Walt's Trooper Factory.  He makes a wide variety of kits, including a TK.  I've not seen any of his work in person, but many people have it and are happy.  

 

If you'd like to talk more specifics, feel free to ask more questions here or drop me a line!

 

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Hey Stephen welcome. Looks like Rebecca has got you covered. If you have further questions please let us know.  

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Hello and welcome to the forum, you have some great info there, research is the key and you have some reading in front of you, good luck and hope to see a build thread from you soon.

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Welcome. Your doing great by asking questions first. Many people get stuck with armor they can’t get approved. Good luck and if you have any other questions feel free to ask away.


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You did the right thing asking on here.  Keep asking all the questions you can. This community is great and will guide you down the path to being 501st approved and get you out trooping.

Where are you located?  That can help determine the available suppliers.

 

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3 hours ago, sharkbait said:

 

Unfortunately, TKArmour is not on the vetted sellers list, and therefore should be avoided.  

 

Also, to clarify, is it $700 for TWO kits?  Because that's a HUGE red flag right there.  The average OT TK kit is in the $600 - $800 range per single kit.  The armor is not easy to produce and is also a niche market, which is in turn reflected in the price.  I am very suspicious of any vendor selling a kit for under the above range, let alone two for that range.  (An exception would be an individual offloading their singular kit and putting it at a priced-to-sell point.)

 

Check out "The various types of armor and where to find them" for further information on vetted vendors, styles, which works best for which body type/height, budget, etc.  

 

I have a few that I always recommend- RT-Mod and AM.  I have AM and love it- going strong for three years and counting!  While they are perfect for taller and/or larger troopers, they can be trimmed to fit any size trooper.  I do not recommend Anovos (aNOvos) due to their serious customer service and quality control issues (and I think they're overpriced).  I'm also not a huge fan of RS Props, because I find them overpriced and I've seen issues with the chest plates due to the thickness (or thinness) of the plastic.  Another option is WTF: Walt's Trooper Factory.  He makes a wide variety of kits, including a TK.  I've not seen any of his work in person, but many people have it and are happy.  

 

If you'd like to talk more specifics, feel free to ask more questions here or drop me a line!

 

To be honest i had a feeling $700 for two kits was too good to be true, but i though it was worth asking about. As for the reputable vendors your post referenced, i have some concerns. Namely the post is dated 2010 and i have a feeling some of the vendors listed may not be around anymore. Second i am not entirely comfortable with sending potentially large sums of money to someone i've only ever talked to via email, if they come highly rated and no one has had problem with them i might not have an issue with this. Lastly i don't have a very big budget. About the most i can put into this is going to be around $800 to $850 USD. I know based on what i have seen offered at sites like anovos and rspropmasters that a decent suit at my price range may be wishful thinking, but that's what i'm working with for the time being.  

 

Thanks for the quick responses, glad to know this is an active community. 

 

 

Update: I just read through some more threads and found this one recounting the horrors of buying from TkArmour. I'm glad i asked, definitely dodged a bullet. 

 

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Hi Stephen,

 

Great choice to come here and ask. You’ll find a lot of amazing people and info here. 

 

Regarding armour and budgets, if, like many of us, it’s been a life-long dream to kit up as a Stormtrooper, it’s always better to save a little longer and get something that you are really happy with. It takes time and effort to build one of these suits so it’s well worth starting that process with a kit that you are happy with and proud to wear. 

 

Best of luck on in your journey, and feel free to ask away with further questions. 

 

Dan 

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5 hours ago, W Crow said:

Namely the post is dated 2010 and i have a feeling some of the vendors listed may not be around anymore.

It is an old post but it's maintained and updated as often as is needed to keep info up to date.

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Some great advice has been given for you, Stephen, and as others have mentioned we are always here for any questions you may have.  This site may look a bit overwhelming with all the content, but we are here to steer you in the right direction!

In case you missed it, this thread will give a little more info. on who to avoid:

https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/19329-where-what-and-whom-to-avoid-when-buying/

As Chris noted, both threads are kept up to date to reflect any changes.  

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Hi Stephen.  Welcome to the FISD.  Yeah, the best advice is follow the guidance in the information provided.  If you happen across another vendor, definitely post it here and see if anyone has any experience with the vendor.  Another option is to check out the for sales thread here as well.  There is always a chance of getting something second hand. 

 

I went with AP (Mark in Canada).  He has a sales thread on FISD and I am very happy with my kit(s).  Just keep in mind that some vendor's armour suits bigger people and some suits smaller people better.  Good luck - take your time - your budget is in the area of being able to do this. :duim:

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20 minutes ago, wook1138 said:

Just keep in mind that some vendor's armour suits bigger people and some suits smaller people better. 

That's definitely something I'm concerned with. I'm between sizes and it would suck if I got a suit I couldn't wear in 6 months. :)

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Welcome Stephen. I really hope that you find some armor that will work out for you. Take your time researching different vendors, instead of diving in head first. It will definitely pay off in the end. Also, you may want to think of tools and supplies that you need to do your build as well. Depending on what tools you have currently, this may add to the amount of what is suitable in your budget. @joseph31633, ukswrath, and many other troopers here have an excellent list of supplies and tools needed that will make your build as smooth as can be. Good luck to you sir. 

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33 minutes ago, W Crow said:

That's definitely something I'm concerned with. I'm between sizes and it would suck if I got a suit I couldn't wear in 6 months. :)

Ha, yeah, post holidays trooping is a challenge sometimes :)  Just kidding, sizing is not that precise. 

 

The original armor was made for actors about 5'10" and 160lbs.  Of course, there is quite a bit of room for adjustments to account for a few inches in height and, lets say, 25 or so lbs (more depending where the weight is).  If you are well over 6' then you might want to check out some of the makers that offer oversized kits.  Some makers have increased some the pieces to allow for more typical body shapes (larger arms or more room in the belly area).  The black undersuit you wear beneath is typically a stretchy material - so it should grow with you - within reason. ;)  Conversely, people as short as 5'4" (that I know of) have build threads on this forum to show how they have reduced the size of their armour.

 

Minor weight loss or gain can usually be dealt with by adding padding or loosening up some strapping.  Personally, I purposely made some parts a little large (eg thigh) to account for possible weight gain down the road.  But this is mostly a factor of how you build your kit - regardless of what kit you decide to get.

 

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Welcome to the White Zone!!

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Hello Stephen,

 

Welcome to FISD. As our fellow troopers said, take your time, do the research. If you are not in a hurry, maybe you can hang on till May 4th and see if there's any promotion during that period of time from our vetted vendors.

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Welcome to a great place, with a bunch of great people.

seeing how you still have a few months before ordering your armor, a good idea would be to start reading some build threads. 

You will definitely get a better idea of what can be done to make the armor fit you the way that it should. That is most important. 

Each suit of armor is customized to the wearer as it is built. These build threads will show you how to do that.

 Keep in mind that some threads focus on some areas while others will focus on different things, so read many of them.

 You will be able to go into your build with more confidence when the time comes and also choose which armor will suit your needs with more confidence. 

Good luck, and always ask questions. 

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Welcome Stephen!

 

since you’re new to TK costuming, I recommend to spend some time in the Getting Started section.

https://www.whitearmor.net/forum/forum/38-getting-started-read-this-first/

 

gather as much info. as you can, so the right choices are made when it’s time to pull the trigger and buy stuff.

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As someone who is in the middle of a build and already has a suit that I trimmed down, the cost of the plastics is just the beginning. Tools and Equipment are going to run you any where from 150 (Low end) to well over 500 depending on what you get (Dremel, drill, sander etc). I am well over 3000 spent in to my 2 suits and E-11 Build (600 alone on it). This is not to discourage you, Just might need to save a little bit more towards your build. 

 

As far as different Armor makers I would recommend AP, It's a Bright Shiny White and has different Kits available (I would recommend a Trimmed Kit for your 1st one but that's just me) vs my Anovos (I have heard horror stories on the wait time, I bought mine 2nd hand) which is more of an off whiteish. 

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14 hours ago, James Whitley said:

Tools and Equipment are going to run you any where from 150 (Low end) to well over 500 depending on what you get

I'd say I spent maybe £50 on tools at most, and that was mostly for specialist bits.  Okay I already had basic stuff but you can build a whole TK with a Stanley knife, metal ruler, lexan scissors, some cheap files, a drill and sand paper.  I often see these huge lists of tools you "need", and you really don't.  Okay it might take a little longer but you're also far less likely to make a huge mistake with a pair of lexan scissors than with a dremel.

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Welcome to FISD, Stephen. Just to throw in my two cents, I have an Anovos and, as long as you are willing to wait, I personally think it’s a great starter kit; however, if I could do it over, I’d recommend Mark of AP in Canada. After seeing his kit in person, the plastic is alot more durable which is important if you plan on trooping frequently as I do. 

 

As mentioned by another member here, AP has a sales thread on FISD. And to speak to your concern of purchasing from someone you’ve never met by means of an email, I have found it to be commonplace in the hobby. Nonetheless, I would trust anyone the detachment staff here vouches for— such as Mark of AP. Good luck with your build!

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