fishgoh0nk[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 hours ago, CableGuy said: Yeah, that’s the idea. Just giving you a slightly straighter line down the back of your armour, allowing the butt to sit a little straighter on the lower ridge of the kidney. As I said, it’s an ideal time to play around with options like that and see how it looks, how comfortable it is etc. before you glue bits together. Your making a great job of this so far, by the way. Keep posting up pics and questions and we’ll try to give suggestions etc. Keep it up. 2 hours ago, menschie said: Thanks for taking the time to post all the steps. It's good for you, fun for us, and good for other people just starting out to follow! Excited for you man! Thanks for the encouragement from all of you! Makes me even more excited knowing that this group is full of spirited, kindhearted and constructive people! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 14 hours ago, fishgoh0nk said: My concern is the posterior You could also put tape further to the ends (as illustrated) were the connection is meant to be, and see how that works and also use tape to simulate the crotch-strap (on the outside) and that will also help pull the ends of the butt plate up aginst the kidney and also dropping the center "butt tape" a few mm so it`s not air-thight between the peices And yours look just like the Troopers in this sceen so you`re actually screen-accurate And speaking af screen-accuracy, keep the back plate high, as seen on almost every Trooper in the movie (above and below) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgoh0nk[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, TheSwede said: You could also put tape further to the ends (as illustrated) were the connection is meant to be, and see how that works and also use tape to simulate the crotch-strap (on the outside) and that will also help pull the ends of the butt plate up aginst the kidney and also dropping the center "butt tape" a few mm so it`s not air-thight between the peices And yours look just like the Troopers in this sceen so you`re actually screen-accurate And speaking af screen-accuracy, keep the back plate high, as seen on almost every Trooper in the movie (above and below) I did attempt to force the side posterior to affix to the kidney with tape, but it would just keep popping off the tape on the lower back. I think I have a tall torso, short legs, so when I wear the ab,kidney and back plate higher, causes the cod to dig into where my actual 'cod' is. That leads me to this question - should the cod actually 'support' your junk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CableGuy[Admin] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 I did attempt to force the side posterior to affix to the kidney with tape, but it would just keep popping off the tape on the lower back. I think I have a tall torso, short legs, so when I wear the ab,kidney and back plate higher, causes the cod to dig into where my actual 'cod' is. That leads me to this question - should the cod actually 'support' your junk? Cupping....lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, fishgoh0nk said: I did attempt to force the side posterior to affix to the kidney with tape, but it would just keep popping off the tape on the lower back I see...try more/stronger tape from the inside and that should change things 2 minutes ago, CableGuy said: Cupping....lol Haha yepp pretty much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgoh0nk[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Ok, so I think it kind of worked - I heated up the kidney plate to be a little more round- BEFORE/AFTER After some tighter tape - I think this might work guys... I'm going take some return off the ab near the hip bone, it's kind of tight there and any little room I can give it so that the posterior to kidney plate isn't that stressed, i'll take it. Edited June 29, 2018 by fishgoh0nk wrong pictures 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menschie[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 40 minutes ago, TheSwede said: And speaking af screen-accuracy, keep the back plate high, as seen on almost every Trooper in the movie (above and below) Daniel, you're awesome and I always highly respect your comments, but I respectfully have a different view than you on this one...especially as a taller trooper. "As seen on almost every trooper" that's standing beside Vader...the short troopers. Note the 2 slightly taller ones on the right, especially the tallest one in front right...and you can find other photos of troopers not with vader, where they're taller and the neck's lower. As a taller trooper, if I had my neck line like the ones on the left, either my butt plate would be up my back or I'd have a 1 inch plus gap between my back and kidney, both of which trump a slightly lower neckline. It all has to come from somewhere, and I'm just telling him that IF the butt plate is too low (from the side shot it looks like a possibility) all isn't lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgoh0nk[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheSwede said: And speaking af screen-accuracy, keep the back plate high, as seen on almost every Trooper in the movie (above and below) 24 minutes ago, menschie said: Daniel, you're awesome and I always highly respect your comments, but I respectfully have a different view than you on this one...especially as a taller trooper. "As seen on almost every trooper" that's standing beside Vader...the short troopers. Note the 2 slightly taller ones on the right, especially the tallest one in front right...and you can find other photos of troopers not with vader, where they're taller and the neck's lower. As a taller trooper, if I had my neck line like the ones on the left, either my butt plate would be up my back or I'd have a 1 inch plus gap between my back and kidney, both of which trump a slightly lower neckline. It all has to come from somewhere, and I'm just telling him that IF the butt plate is too low (from the side shot it looks like a possibility) all isn't lost. I kind of agree on the backplate needing to sit a bit lower - if the seams between back, kidney and posterior are to be under .5 inches, I don't know how any of this would fit without massive shimming - the length is entire back to from shoulder to posterior is roughly 30 inches (- 1 or 2 inches for cod to ab strap pull, i bent my shoulders subtract 1 more inch), 27-28 inches, if your back is longer than that you'd need more material to cover. Only time I'm glad I'm under 6 foot... Edited June 29, 2018 by fishgoh0nk comedy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, menschie said: As a taller trooper, if I had my neck line like the ones on the left, either my butt plate would be up my back or I'd have a 1 inch plus gap between my back and kidney, both of which trump a slightly lower neckline. It all has to come from somewhere, and I'm just telling him that IF the butt plate is too low (from the side shot it looks like a possibility) all isn't lost. Agreed I should have been more clear and said: try to keep the back plate as high as possible with minimal gap between back and kidney and idealy no gap kidney/butt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, fishgoh0nk said: I kind of agree on the backplate needing to sit a bit lower Ypu mean lower than in your pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgoh0nk[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, TheSwede said: Ypu mean lower than in your pics? well, as low as it needs to be so i don't get a massive wedgie lol! I'm guessing there is no bending over in trooping... is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgoh0nk[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, TheSwede said: Agreed I should have been more clear and said: try to keep the back plate as high as possible with minimal gap between back and kidney and idealy no gap kidney/butt I forgot, I took this picture and forgot to attach it. I hope this would be good reference for anyone else building: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 minute ago, fishgoh0nk said: well, as low as it needs to be so i don't get a massive wedgie Copy that 2 minutes ago, fishgoh0nk said: 'm guessing there is no bending over in trooping... is there? Well….have to censor myself on that one…………………… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgoh0nk[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheSwede said: Well….have to censor myself on that one…………………… lol there's too much that can be said about that Speaking of the privates - I'm looking to trim my cod. Would this amount be ill advised? I have big thighs, my thighs are not comfortable with this digging in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, fishgoh0nk said: I'm looking to trim my cod. Would this amount be ill advised? You mean this section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menschie[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 James, I wouldn't worry about there not being enough material in the back. As you said, you're under 6 feet. I tried as hard as I possibly could to not even have a sliver of daylight between all my gaps in the back...they're toit like a toiger...and everything fits fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgoh0nk[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheSwede said: You mean this section? Yup! That section I marked would be removed. 3 minutes ago, menschie said: James, I wouldn't worry about there not being enough material in the back. As you said, you're under 6 feet. I tried as hard as I possibly could to not even have a sliver of daylight between all my gaps in the back...they're toit like a toiger...and everything fits fine. Yea, I'm not the one to complain as a medium heighted guy. Are you bowed like the maiden head of a ship? I have big thighs, that's a challenge for me, all my pants are toight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 minute ago, fishgoh0nk said: Yup! That section I marked would be removed. You shouldn`t have to if you follow Dan`s "cupping-advise" to the fullest, hiking that cod up as high you can without changing the tone of your voice of course I have big thighs as well (squating 2 reps of 441 Lbs- yeah that´s me bragging) and no problem with the cod (mine is really upp there...to much info? ah okey...) Btw my shadowtrooper is Anovos and I just cut it to the trim line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menschie[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 LOL ... you guys are cracking my shtuff up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgoh0nk[TK] Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TheSwede said: You shouldn`t have to if you follow Dan`s "cupping-advise" to the fullest, hiking that cod up as high you can without changing the tone of your voice of course I have big thighs as well (squating 2 reps of 441 Lbs- yeah that´s me bragging) and no problem with the cod (mine is really upp there...to much info? ah okey...) Btw my shadowtrooper is Anovos and I just cut it to the trim line. How tall are you Daniel? I feel like a low rider. Edited June 30, 2018 by fishgoh0nk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menschie[TK] Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Okay, I need to walk away, because we're associated with Disney and there's just too many things that are busting to come out right now. Doh! Yikes, even when I'm not trying I'm getting myself in trouble! Okay, I'm gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, fishgoh0nk said: I feel like a low rider. Well as long as you`re comfy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, menschie said: and there's just too many things that are busting to come out right now. 3 minutes ago, menschie said: associated with Disney Agreed, back to being strictly Imperial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgoh0nk[TK] Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, menschie said: Okay, I need to walk away, because we're associated with Disney and there's just too many things that are busting to come out right now. Doh! Yikes, even when I'm not trying I'm getting myself in trouble! Okay, I'm gone... Oh noes, don't go! These are legit costuming questions! I'm sure the Disney princess forums have all kinds of question and answers revolving around duct tape. I guess I can leave the cod alone for now, I just want to double check before i start removing material. A lot of posts say the removal of material may be necessary if it's for the comfort of the wearer. I think in removing that edge, it would be a lot more comfy, but I'm curious as to how close the posterior and cod will need to be aligned, using the elastic strap. Not sure if anyone could provide pictures as to how the 2 fits underneath the body, only if you're willing to provide those, I don't want to taint the post with anything offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, fishgoh0nk said: How tall are you Daniel? Oh I missed that….I´m 5`10,,,but as you stated the proportions might differ even if one is the same hight...I think my tors/leg-ratio is pretty even-steven...Ok time to go to bed as I can`t keep a serious mind at the moment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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