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Nahh...don’t listen to any of these guys...in order to please the Empire you should double your efforts!! :smiley-sw013:

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Nahh...don’t listen to any of these guys...in order to please the Empire you should double your efforts!! :smiley-sw013:
Hahahaha! Good one Dan.

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Fine, I have balanced the sane advice with Daniel's advice - quickly recoated my bucket with plastidip, and will now lie very, very still. :D

 

And thanks, Tony! PM sent. Turns out the rivets only have to go through 3 layers of ABS plus one of elastic, so if I can do the initial closure plan I'd like to.

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1 hour ago, Rat said:

Dan.

 

3 minutes ago, TheLorelei said:

Dan's advice

Well my friends, I would like it if you would refer to me as Daniel or Danny even, Dan is some other dude aka @CableGuy ^_^

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3 minutes ago, TheSwede said:

Well my friends, I would like it if you would refer to me as Daniel or Danny even, Dan is some other dude aka @CableGuy ^_^

Shoot!!! And I thought about it, and I looked at your profile (and I called you Daniel yesterday, if you recall), and then I figured Hey, Rat probably knows better than I do. Dreadfully sorry, I mean I hate it when people shorten my name without being instructed to do so. Ugh.

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Shoot!!! And I thought about it, and I looked at your profile (and I called you Daniel yesterday, if you recall), and then I figured Hey, Rat probably knows better than I do. Dreadfully sorry, I mean I hate it when people shorten my name without being instructed to do so. Ugh.



Good luck with you future Centurion application.... your marked for life now.


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5 minutes ago, TheLorelei said:

Shoot!!! And I thought about it, and I looked at your profile (and I called you Daniel yesterday, if you recall), and then I figured Hey, Rat probably knows better than I do. Dreadfully sorry, I mean I hate it when people shorten my name without being instructed to do so. Ugh.

I DO remember and not to worry, all is well and if you think about it it´s all Rat´s fault, I have tried to aducate him but when it comes to my name...well...HE is but the learner and I am the MasterB) 

 

(not to worry Rat, I still like you just as much;))

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9 minutes ago, Frank75139 said:

Good luck with you future Centurion application.... your marked for life now.

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11 minutes ago, Frank75139 said:

Good luck with you future Centurion application.... your marked for life now.

 

 

Heavens to Betsy, Frank you're right - even if by some miracle they do let me in, they'll send me a certificate that says "Laura" on it and I'll have to hang it on my wall and wince every time I see it.

:laugh1:

3 minutes ago, TheSwede said:

I DO remember and not to worry, all is well and if you think about it it´s all Rat´s fault, I have tried to aducate him but when it comes to my name...well...HE is but the learner and I am the MasterB) 

 

(not to worry Rat, I still like you just as much;))

Oh phew. Thanks! :D

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Well my friends, I would like it if you would refer to me as Daniel or Danny even, Dan is some other dude aka [mention=31976]CableGuy[/mention] 
Well eventually I'll really honestly get it straightened out.

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Three layers of ABS for your hinge?  What/where is the third layer?   You'd mentioned that you liked my hinge closure, but I only have two total ABS layers the rivets have to go through on each side of the armor seam, plus one layer of webbing.

 

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Those two ABS strips are glued directly to the top of the webbing only, and the webbing is plain on the underside.  The hinge, in turn, is riveted webbing-side-down to the armor, one strip on each side of the armor seam.  Here's a closeup of the attached hinge, and you can see that I had plenty of rivet to bend over.

 

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Hope this helps.

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54 minutes ago, A.J. Hamler said:

Hope this helps.

Lovely to have more detail, thanks A.J.! I was planning on reinforcing the ab before attaching elastic similar to yours, so the third layer would be between the elastic and the ab/kidney, glued only to the ab/kidney. I'm contemplating slimmer reinforcements (nylon webbing? ABS scraps that came from already vac-formed pieces so they're considerably thinner?) to avoid it being a full 6mm of ABS, but I'd worry about the rivet holes sans backup. Ounce of prevention, etc.

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Ah, gotcha.  And, yeah, the vac-formed pieces are considerably thinner -- depending on where they came from on the armor, they can be quite thin, but still nice and strong.

 

One tip, though, that I found out the hard way.  I wish I hadn't attached both sides of that hinge when I did.  I still had snaps and straps to do for the torso (Ab, Butt, Kidney, Back, Shoulder straps...), and doing them AFTER attaching the two halves of the "clamshell" has been a pain.  Wish I had attached only one side, and drilled the other side to get it ready but not actually attach it till later.  Would have been a lot easier finishing all the snaps and straps without that clamshell flopping all over the place.

 

Live and learn.

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4 hours ago, phil said:

great idea on the neck seal

Hey thanks, Phil! I didn't take terribly many photos of the process because it required more hands than I had to begin with, but I can certainly go into more detail if you'd like. Just let me know. :)

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17 hours ago, A.J. Hamler said:

Ah, gotcha.  And, yeah, the vac-formed pieces are considerably thinner -- depending on where they came from on the armor, they can be quite thin, but still nice and strong.

 

One tip, though, that I found out the hard way.  I wish I hadn't attached both sides of that hinge when I did.  I still had snaps and straps to do for the torso (Ab, Butt, Kidney, Back, Shoulder straps...), and doing them AFTER attaching the two halves of the "clamshell" has been a pain.  Wish I had attached only one side, and drilled the other side to get it ready but not actually attach it till later.  Would have been a lot easier finishing all the snaps and straps without that clamshell flopping all over the place.

 

Live and learn.

Yeah!

 

And oh, really?... that's quite good to know, thank you. Makes sense. I'll wait to attach it until my belt snaps are in and my codpiece reattached for sure!

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3 minutes ago, TheLorelei said:

Hey thanks, Phil! I didn't take terribly many photos of the process because it required more hands than I had to begin with, but I can certainly go into more detail if you'd like. Just let me know. :)

sure thing plz

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How close are the chest and back tabs to each other (area in rectangle)? I've been staring at your photos for a while trying to figure out what to do with your chest plate positioning, and I'm wondering if actually it might help to drop your whole chest plate a touch:

 

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Then it should 'hang' from your shoulders a big more vertically, and I think that will help it sit against your ab plate more closely. Does that make sense?

 

And actually looking back at this post in October, the chest plate seems to sit a bit more snugly against the ab in that fitting; do you recall what you did back then? 

 

 

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How close are the chest and back tabs to each other (area in rectangle)? I've been staring at your photos for a while trying to figure out what to do with your chest plate positioning, and I'm wondering if actually it might help to drop your whole chest plate a touch:

 

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Then it should 'hang' from your shoulders a big more vertically, and I think that will help it sit against your ab plate more closely. Does that make sense?

 

And actually looking back at this post in October, the chest plate seems to sit a bit more snugly against the ab in that fitting; do you recall what you did back then? 

 

 

I had an issue where I needed my chest to come lower onto the ab as well. I noticed it in this pic of me at my first troop- notice the gap in the chest and ab:

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I just strategically placed snaps on the inside of the ab and chest to make the chest sit further down. The brackets weren’t tight enough, so this seemed to work for me just fine:

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On 12/19/2018 at 12:57 PM, phil said:

sure thing plz

Working on it. It'll be a bit, so if you have any specific questions until I get it all written up, fire away :)

 

22 hours ago, shashachu said:

How close are the chest and back tabs to each other (area in rectangle)?

...

Then it should 'hang' from your shoulders a big more vertically, and I think that will help it sit against your ab plate more closely. Does that make sense?

 

And actually looking back at this post in October, the chest plate seems to sit a bit more snugly against the ab in that fitting; do you recall what you did back then?

First, thanks for the input Sha Sha! Always good to hear from a fellow shorter female TK when it comes to fitting issues.

The chest and back tabs overlap by a bit with how I have it taped in the most recent pictures.

That does make sense, and I'll definitely try dropping the chest down a bit.

 

One bad thing that may have contributed to October's fitting was the fact that I had the chest sides taped, pulling it back against the ab. Comparison below, October on the left.

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Ignoring that, though, the chest was much lower. The ab was lower, too, and the cod was shorter. Now, this was before I had the back strapping in. The length of the back and the alignment of the ab with the kidney (now in a fixed spot due to shoulders and butt) put the ab a little higher than in October's fitting, I think. Also the torso was bigger around since I hadn't trimmed it yet so the chest didn't have to come back in as far to sit flush.

 

Seems there were a lot of reasons. But shifting the chest down def seems worth a try! :)

 

20 hours ago, Bud Spaklur said:

I just strategically placed snaps on the inside of the ab and chest to make the chest sit further down. The brackets weren’t tight enough, so this seemed to work for me just fine:

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Nice to see your snap plate positioning. Thanks!

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Well be seeing your EI and Centurion applications soon enough I think. Awesome job Lorelei.

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Aw thanks Rat ^_^

 

You can't keep a good woman down. Despite my best intentions, I did a little more armor work day before yesterday. I put in kidney notches and trimmed the buttplate!

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The left side looks so nice. Good thing, too, because it'll be completely hidden by the holster. :glare: The right side is the side with the splice, and the 20mm trim line was so close to the seam that it snapped there instead...

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So I'm gonna have to put a few mm back there. I haven't refinished the seam yet anyway so it's ok. :)

(Also, the kidney+ab themselves are different heights at each seam. What is with that??)

Buttplate trim time!

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Been a minute since I was so scared to make a cut.

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I think it looks great so far, though, and will look even better when I take the return edge off the lower area like so (faint pencil lines):

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Ooh but also look! Butt snaps!! Doesn't it look just so... real?? :lol: My snap press continues to prove it was a great investment, by the way. Foolproof, perfect snap setting in seconds. Future readers from Garrison Carida, let me know when you want to borrow it.

 

I removed the edge snap plates from my kidney. The E6000 did eventually let them pop cleanly off, as advertised. Very pleased. And thanks to the trims I won't have to move the snap plates on the buttplate, as they're now on the edges where I would have moved them anyway.

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Tonight I painted ab buttons, and did a little bucket work. No pics of the ab buttons because they're an absolute travesty. I tried a couple methods and am relying on the cleanup process to make them presentable.

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I ended up doing one coat of cheesecloth and one coat of plain plastidip (with a little cloth in thin spots). After two days, I punched out the eye tape and lightly scored the plastidip around the eyes, gently pulling the scrap as I went. For me the edges don't matter much since they'll be covered by my lens/mesh mounting method. Say it with me - feel the relief wash over you - "It doesn't have to be perfect."

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Then I kneaded up some epoxy putty (another plumbing aisle wonder) and laid plastic wrap over the eye because I don't want the putty to adhere yet. Those of you who attended higher tier art schools - or second grade art class - will recall the roll-the-clay-between-your-hands-to-make-a-snake method which I employed to get the putty around the eye. It's not pretty, but I'll be shaping it nicely after the second layer. I love how this stuff sands.

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A few minutes later it was ready to pop off and mess around with, but I was cold and weary and ready for dinner. Tomorrow's another day. :)

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Wow its a blinked and I missed how fast you have came along on this!  Your doing great work!

 

Great job at trimming everything down to fit you!

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On 12/21/2018 at 8:13 AM, StrmTRPR85 said:

Wow its a blinked and I missed how fast you have came along on this!  Your doing great work!

 

Great job at trimming everything down to fit you!

Thanks, Jeff! It's a lot of legwork, but a lot of fun, too. I definitely can't picture myself actually looking like a tk someday though. There's a strong link between me and the piles of white plastic, black elastic, and tools covering the floors of two rooms, but only a tenuous connection between those piles and actual tk armor. :laugh1:

On another note, I just saw your USB fan sales thread. Tempting. May be PMing you later.

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19 hours ago, TheLorelei said:

There's a strong link between me and the piles of white plastic, black elastic, and tools covering the floors of two rooms

My work space is still piles of white plastic, elastic and other various parts from my build and I was done about 6 months ago :P  Of course I always say I'll clean it up but here I am about to start another project.

 

19 hours ago, TheLorelei said:

On another note, I just saw your USB fan sales thread. Tempting. May be PMing you later

Sure thing PM me whenever you would like :)

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