Pledford[TK] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Ok guys so everyone has been so helpful when I was building my TK a couple of years ago I am coming to you guys again for advice. I met a local guy who has a kit that was built for him by a friend. (Looks like an AM kit) However this friend threw the kit together in 3 days!!!! ....and he did it using HOT GLUE and CA GLUE!!! To make matters worse he did not follow the CRL or any build threads and simply overlapped the pieces. Now this guy has commissioned me to "fix it" and help get his armor 501st approved. I am having some difficulty getting some of the hot glue off but I think I can do it. The CA glue however is a different story. I have already broke part of the armor trying to separate one of the shins. Good news is that I was able to fix it and the break is under the now new cover strip so you don't see it. I really want to help this guy and to be honest the challenge is a bit fun. Is there a trick I need to know to separate pieces that have been glued with CA glue??? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank75139[501st] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Try acetone maybe? Maybe goof off or a debonder. Not sure what he’s paying you to do this but it might be easier to spend a few more bucks and get an new set. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastertk[TK] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Do not use acetone or goof off (acetone based) as these products will MELT your plastic!!! Try placing the Armor into the freezer for 24hours. The freezing will cause the water base of the CA glue to micro fracture as it expands. This should be a good start, then follow up with a heat gun, (not too hot or this will also MELT your plastic) and a Razor knife along the edge basically cutting it free at that point. Good luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 You can pry apart pieces with a knife if it's CA glue, but you must go slowly and carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpy~[501st] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Pledford said: break is under the now new cover strip so you don't see it... maybe reinforce the break on the shin's underside with ABS paste? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank75139[501st] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Do not use acetone or goof off (acetone based) as these products will MELT your plastic!!! Try placing the Armor into the freezer for 24hours. The freezing will cause the water base of the CA glue to micro fracture as it expands. This should be a good start, then follow up with a heat gun, (not too hot or this will also MELT your plastic) and a Razor knife along the edge basically cutting it free at that point. Good luck!! How do you tell it’s melting? I’ve used goof off several times with mine. What should I be seeing?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger[IPM] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Ripples, bubbles etc. It literally liquefies ABS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 It depends on how much you're using, but it is a solvent and it does soften up ABS. Try it on some scraps if you're curious. It's how we make ABS paste for repairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pledford[TK] Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 So this guy CA glued the shoulder bridges on before trimming. He also did the same with the ab plate buttons. UGH! So is it worth it to try and remove them or just say to hell with it and keep it as is and move on to other problems I CAN fix?Will this effect his basic approval?Sent from my VS988 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwede[TK] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, Pledford said: Will this effect his basic approval? Not to sure about the bridges but the ab plates most definetly will. Unless the GML is super-friendly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank75139[501st] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 It depends on how much you're using, but it is a solvent and it does soften up ABS. Try it on some scraps if you're curious. It's how we make ABS paste for repairs. Good to know thanks. While painting I had some issues and basically cleaned everything with it. Didn’t use a lot just a dab on a cloth. I was worried that at some point it weaken the plastic and the whole thing will melt off mid troop... that would be embarrassing. I guess if I haven’t see anything then I’m good but I’ll steer clear of it and not have to worry. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Yeah, just don't soak it and let it sit in it. ABS paste is made by filling up a jar with scraps (quicker with thin small slivers) and then add acetone. The whole mess turns into something like toothpaste if the ratio is right. Keep a lid on it to keep the acetone from vaporising, leaving you with a jar of solid abs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank75139[501st] Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Yeah, just don't soak it and let it sit in it. ABS paste is made by filling up a jar with scraps (quicker with thin small slivers) and then add acetone. The whole mess turns into something like toothpaste if the ratio is right. Keep a lid on it to keep the acetone from vaporising, leaving you with a jar of solid abs. Another thing that’s good to know. Thank you!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Pledford said: So this guy CA glued the shoulder bridges on before trimming. He also did the same with the ab plate buttons. UGH! So is it worth it to try and remove them or just say to hell with it and keep it as is and move on to other problems I CAN fix? Will this effect his basic approval? I have heard that putting parts in the freezer and then prying apart can work, also some have had success with soaking parts in a very salty solution, may be worth a try. Applying pressure to pry the pieces apart is normally the only way. Wouldn't hurt to contact your GML and show him/her your issues as ask for their input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pledford[TK] Posted January 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 The freezer trick worked!!!! Had it in the freezer all day, used a knife and it popped right off! Here is a pic of them next to my armor.Now for the shoulders.Sent from my VS988 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Pledford said: The freezer trick worked!!!! Had it in the freezer all day, used a knife and it popped right off! Here is a pic of them next to my armor. Great news, onwards and beyond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank75139[501st] Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Awesome, clean out the freezer ice cream for everyone!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastertk[TK] Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Glad to hear the freezer method worked for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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