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Hi all,

More progress on the large monocular lense install. Carved away at the scope end cap to best accommodate it. Following the blaster reference picture, made it so the housing for the large lense of the monocular sit flush as possible against the back of the lens retainer, as revealed in the doopydoos scope end cap. I did more work to it than what you see in the pictures, it sits more flush now. Check out the pictures =) Thanks for dropping by.4e264b6542648ab03e86765b1900ba76.jpg598837342e953dd7d2a2972b46c699c8.jpgdba04d785a1d709e1998c2b3b0d509f5.jpg

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Hi again,

Tonight I jump to the exposed bolt. I had demolished my work done earlier with the clearing strip and the extractor and plunger component in the doopydoos version because I needed a way to install the BlastFX at the time. Now, I've created a new exposed bolt out of thin aluminum. I had originally followed Ducati's template but found it had slight differences. I ended up outlining the exposed bolt extents on the doopydoos...came out pretty close. Of course, details to come like serial number, clearing strip and plunger and extractor...thanks for dropping by!

 

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Hi again, I find myself jumping back to the scope build. I've hollowed out more off the edge of the larger end of the scope body. This to better accommodate the monocular large lens housing. The dremeling was very focused this time around with identifying the cut extents with my sharpie =)

 

Thanks again for dropping by!

 

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I need some help here friends - anyone to share how they went about installing the lens from the small housing from Tinos monocular? Suspends mentioned if installed a certain way, the reticle seen from the large lens is blurry? I also recall Cableguy installing by using a q-tip? I am also unclear whether I am to extract the small lens from the housing? Or install it as is...minus the rubber edge? Not very clear how best to install...any help is appreciated =)0d9e37bc1e13883e2fa9fa6b9b3ed62f.jpga9e1f91bc20c400495f40e2fc39de4ae.jpg66a58246aa823691a187e5766e38bb87.jpgcadfab8a3bb36e619b25cd056fee3aa2.jpgb89ae6f42ba2e72cf9b1c34b6f16f0ed.jpg

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Hey Jesse!

 

I simply removed everything from the smaller lens except for the two lenses and the black plastic tube connecting them and just glued the whole thing into the scope front. Certainly not the nicest option (especially if you look at how nicely everyone else managed to do it) as you will end up with a little black circle around the lens at the front (not sure if I included any pictures of that in my build thread), but this can only be seen if you look very closely. So it's kind of a trade-off between love for details and the desire to finally be done with the scope :P

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Hey Jesse!
 
I simply removed everything from the smaller lens except for the two lenses and the black plastic tube connecting them and just glued the whole thing into the scope front. Certainly not the nicest option (especially if you look at how nicely everyone else managed to do it) as you will end up with a little black circle around the lens at the front (not sure if I included any pictures of that in my build thread), but this can only be seen if you look very closely. So it's kind of a trade-off between love for details and the desire to finally be done with the scope
Great to hear from you Freduster! A novel approach as it does make use of your contents on hand - making use of both small lenses. How did you take out these components by the way...did you have to smash broken the silver painted plastic out shell? Heres a picture from Tinos 2016 build that helps us all understand...85cae204c57df1101e0fe80e1d349587.jpg

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From Tinos 2016 build, I gather that only front lens with lens carrier is installed along with a retainer ring...the carrier and ring can both be had from the monocular?

Is this lens carrier the black piece I was able to un thread out from the back as seen from the bottom picture?

Interested also to know what are the pros and cons with installing front and rear or just front small lens...and what is the best orientation as well...curved lens facing out or in?

Perhaps light can be shed on how to keep the reticle focused after install of small lens....56890fc905050123e392e54832d3bf24.jpg

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Hey buddy.

I used a Lego flag pole to install mine!! Lol

Mine is a bad example, though. I rushed the front lens of mine and just super glued it where it sat. My scope has next to zero visibility. :-)

I’m sure, being you, you’ll find a good resolve.

Dan :-)

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22 minutes ago, Dracotrooper said:

(...)   How did you take out these components by the way...did you have to smash broken the silver painted plastic out shell?   (...)

It should work without damaging it. When having it in hands, you can unscrew the black retainer ring (with a knife blade or something).

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When the retainer ring is removed, the two small lenses and the spacer ring between them should fall out. If not, gently push something through the front end.

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12 minutes ago, Dracotrooper said:

(...)   the carrier and ring can both be had from the monocular?

Is this lens carrier the black piece I was able to un thread out from the back as seen from the bottom picture?   (...)

No, the picture you are referring to is from a build with Brian's (@Bulldog44) scope with hollowed core and shows two casted resin pieces holding the small lens in place. This is slightly different to what you are building.

21 minutes ago, Dracotrooper said:

(...)   Interested also to know what are the pros and cons with installing front and rear or just front small lens...and what is the best orientation as well...curved lens facing out or in?

According to my research back then, the two small lenses with spacer ring are used to compensate the pillow- and barrel-distorsion (see the graphic from my earlier comment), which is useful for real telescopes. In our resin builds we do not get them to work like that (believe me, I tried hard). We just want both scope ends to look real. From that point of view, it is absolutely up to you if you want to install just one small lens, or both of them with that spacer ring. As for the orientation, I would always install the domed side facing the outside. Real telescopes have it that way and you want yours to look real. :)

31 minutes ago, Dracotrooper said:

(...)   Perhaps light can be shed on how to keep the reticle focused after install of small lens....   (...)

Not sure on this one, as it never had any impact on my builds. Give it a try and play with the parts you have, try various combinations and check if one changes anything...

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As Tino said, lens curved side faces outward on both ends. If you are in need of the outer retaining rings both large and small, let me know and I can send some resin ones I have from my kits.   Great work on the scope!

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Thank you Dan, Tino and Brian!! You've all been very helpful and in so many ways. Thanks for offering up retainer rings Brian - I will make due with the doopydoos resin cast ones as etched into the scope for now.

 

My son does have an extensive Lego collection...the hunt is on for a flag pole!

 

Tino, I managed to tap out the two lenses and spacer and will test what combination works best for me for install, paying close attention if a combination blurs my reticle focus. I will likely just do a one lens install. I have seen your picture on spade bits at 10mm and 11mm for installing the lens...that will be next update....thanks all for the valuable input!!

 

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Hello folks, today I continue with tasks on the scope. I was over ambitous when taking away resin in and around the lens retainer rings on both ends of the scope. I've gone and retouched using green stuff. After curing, smoothed with a round file. I also created a template so that I can better hollow out more of the inside of the scope. Aiming for uniformity and optimal light to pass through. Also test fitted a rubber washer to sit between the retainer ring and the monocular housing. This cleans up the overall look covering up gaps that are seen. The rubber is good too, to hide imperfections in my green stuff sculp. Lastly, I managed to find the right size tiny screws to replace four resin screws on the scope. Pretty happy about this find check out the photos! Cheers mates!!

 

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Good idea with the rubber washer and a great find with those tiny screws. Cannot wait to see them installed...

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Yes, nice touch using the rubber o ring. I have been testing using them too on my scope kits to hold the smaller end lens in place instead of using glue. Nice find on the micro screws. This is one major scope operation and is coming along great. More popcorn needed.lol.

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On ‎10‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 11:55 PM, T-Jay said:

Good idea with the rubber washer and a great find with those tiny screws. Cannot wait to see them installed...

I originally thought of using malleable metal like solder but it really didn't turn out right. Those micro screws came from a glasses repair kit. The screws were slotted, matching the resin screws on the scope :duim:

On ‎10‎/‎30‎/‎2018 at 12:00 AM, Bulldog44 said:

Yes, nice touch using the rubber o ring. I have been testing using them too on my scope kits to hold the smaller end lens in place instead of using glue. Nice find on the micro screws. This is one major scope operation and is coming along great. More popcorn needed.lol.

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Right? The rubber is already matt in color too and works well. Haha, thanks again Brian!

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Nice solution here...!

Another small step forward :-)!


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Small progress but progress nonetheless. Hollowed out more of my scope. Now, it's quite even thru out...the large lens monocular part now sits allot better than before.25ea6cb78c2b51bc6e3fcb18ce758908.jpg9367320f42f62d9bc251f60b4875fbd0.jpg4a2d12221d19c524e3f4d723c1a4eddd.jpgdb937afc8958567e3bb25464f0097841.jpg3eb5116369eae0824c19c14cb36f8825.jpg

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Well, this hollowed scope already looks a lot more even than mine. I think this was the part of the blaster build that I stuck with the most time, so keep going! It only gets easier from here :)

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Great work hollowing that out. You will get a nice amount of light passing through. 

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Well, this hollowed scope already looks a lot more even than mine. I think this was the part of the blaster build that I stuck with the most time, so keep going! It only gets easier from here
Thanks Freduster - the scope has come along way from those initial days with the rotary tool, I have much more command of the tool now and also enjoy the time to manually file away to my liking. That big blotch of green stuff screams novice!

Looking to paint the inside of the scope and gauge assembly with screw installation shortly there after. Fun fun times ahead!

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Great work hollowing that out. You will get a nice amount of light passing through. 
Hey thanks, it will be worth the effort then BTW, with the photobucket fiasco behind us, I was able to fully access your 2015 blaster build, that final paint job shows a smooth satin like finish, great work!

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Hi folks, more progress this afternoon on the scope! There is something utterly satisfying when your screwing in a bolt and the resin squeaks!

 

I screwed in the small screws provided in Tinos completion set. I noticed the smaller set of two are sunken and the other relatively larger set of three sat normally. Glad I used a flathead screw driver that was the correct length and width as I applied pressure to the install process as I was breaking into the resin, creating that squeaking sound I like so much. I mostly left the screw heads quite clean despite all the pressure applied, very pleased =) Have yet to install the four micro screws .... that update to come soon!!f998093b6993c46efe25d35134c8f6c2.jpg&key=15e74397c339ac688164bffd23d259caba45eaff1ad19d098ffe463228be561336ab820c939e9f24a730522097a3f7a0.jpg&key=b563118d53a3db575ff83bc213c946ebd701ac56f4230011952a97bad5fdb532bac762e2662abb79d5384dba37817b2c.jpg&key=54a3a7ee0d4036ae293cbba4b1a68aad94616152d0bc9cc3c7fe5dd319c6bc6de82262c46809c5fd3774b8fe1ab9f52d.jpg&key=2fc658e3ec3d17bf624ead1b33a255c2603adac2ee70473ba0d995418b037ef262beb7f9798db17c2f68eaf391a1f2af.jpg&key=c66d1866c88a047582fdfa61236a24de7bee0812acfae047a909414524fa5512887f44b12214d9484ab7392bd5cf7f5b.jpg&key=58a99b8bce59aa63f6182b6386e796c40dc579b847fc1a7ce8301afeca995b4550bebdfe4d44e3f3c74e2875b72143a2.jpg&key=370e85d1c0bebf8471e903895092b739dd2ff72cda673f5c7567230af5ed3cdcc65c1d916d060174f1c8a269f573b3fd.jpg&key=12adbbd8948f43fde6c766a9a5a14a5c30223c8ec551e36f9ae1152495bcd062

 

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Adding these screws is something I really like when building scopes. More tricky than one would think, but absolutely rewarding to see real metal screws on a painted scope.

Side note: remove them again for painting the scope and later add a black washing onto the screw heads. This makes shiny steel appear aged. ;) Good luck mate.

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I remember I screwed up (hah, bad screw pun) this part quite massively, I ended up just glueing the screws into the holes that I made way too big. It's still looking alright, so given the effort that you're putting into this scope it's gonna look fantastic :D:icon_bow:

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Adding these screws is something I really like when building scopes. More tricky than one would think, but absolutely rewarding to see real metal screws on a painted scope.

Side note: remove them again for painting the scope and later add a black washing onto the screw heads. This makes shiny steel appear aged. Good luck mate.

Thanks Tino! - I am unsure what you mean about the washers actually...do you have an image perhaps? Sorry

 

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