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Apologies if this has been stated already but have basic approval guidelines ever changed for armors? Does the CRL base anything on behind the scenes  set pics like the ones posted in this thread? Or strictly based on what's on screen?   Do the KB or Jimmi kits have seamless back/yoke?


Yes, with enough supporting evidence and staff approval the CRL can be revised and they do evolve over time.

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On ‎2‎/‎1‎/‎2019 at 5:09 PM, gmrhodes13 said:

So after seeing prototypes when ever I pressed Anovos for an answer as to how the new armor wouldn't need filling or painting I would always get a run around answer, not getting exactly how this was achieved, now I see, one of the main places that does need gluing, filling and painting is now two pieces (top right of image), wonder if that's going to get 501st approved :blink:There's no yoke seams with screen armor that I've seen. Unless there's proof to say otherwise the basic requirements (no  seam) won't change. Phasma armor (photo)  may have had seams, the other two photos are Anovos armor.

 

Closure on those biceps is a little sloppy Normal 

 

Those gaskets are as floppy as my d__k after a cold shower:laugh1: ah hahaha

 

What's up with those overlapping forearms to biceps, don't they know how these should look :56pullhair: :vomit-into-the-toilet:Sloppy dressing? lol

 

Miss something on that endcap of the TD? ;)Just a bit

 

I better stop now or I'll be here all day :blink: It's literally been all day, stop hahaha

 

 

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I actually have a notion, but I'm waiting until I have this thing in hand to do some dry runs first to check feasibility. If said notion works, it should be inexpensive... but a little fiddly and time-consuming. I know -- with a Stormtrooper costume? Unheard of!

 

Said notion is also planned to include @ukswrath's metal shoulder braces/shoulder bell tabs, so one is warned.

 

I gave up on this upcoming Celebration in disgust, so I don't need it in time for that, but I'm still hoping I ordered early enough to be in that first batch...

 

Okay, other thoughts. I'm going TFA with my build. The e-mail had this to say regarding the two variants we have so far:

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As discussed previously, we have configured the armor to be customizable to either The Last Jedi (e.g. overlapping armor edges, like in the Imperial Stormtrooper Kits) or The Force Awakens configuration (edge-to-edge gluing).

 


Our fit test has demonstrated the The Last Jedi overlap system to be extremely comfortable with a flex in the thighs, biceps, shins and forearms, that the previous The Force Awakens system of edge-to-edge gluing didn’t permit. This also helps accommodate a number of sizes. Fortunately, you have a choice for either way!

 

I have never seen a straight comparison rundown between TFA and TLJ. How accurate is that? And, apart from that, I believe the main difference is the groin armor. Given this looks to be the more abbreviated TLJ version, how the heck is one supposed to be able to opt to finish it as the TFA version? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

But man that chest plate... I may get that cleaned up, detailed on the back side, and painted before I tackle any of the rest, just to have it sitting there as encouragement. That is just so pretty!

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11 hours ago, mikidymac said:

The real question is how much is Tony@ukswrath going to charge us to do a how to on how to fix this seam? Lol.

Lol. This area does bring up a good point regarding how to address it however as mentioned before until we actually have the armor in hand I'll hold off in speculating. I will say this, it can't be any more difficult than previous generations and we made it through those.  

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I’m already thinking aluminum for support and shoulder bells then Devcon Plastic Welder II sand and paint.

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15 minutes ago, mikidymac said:

I’m already thinking aluminum for support and shoulder bells then Devcon Plastic Welder II sand and paint.

It's really not that difficult to do when/if it comes down to it. 

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Really it's not, so many builds here will all of us having to glue/join/fill/paint our yoke/backs, no difference with this new area.

 

The stickler is that it needs painting, perhaps enforcing the underneath sections and using ABS paste will work out better, touch up just that line with paint and it may not get noticed, otherwise you have to paint the whole yoke/back, then will it match the rest of the armor? Or you could just wear an ammo vest, straps would cover those areas ;) 

 

I really hate chips and cracks on my FOTK, I don't get that many though and I have every piece kept in a material pouches so they don't get damaged in transport, but it is time consuming to get everything out and pack away after the troop. I was hoping that the new kits wouldn't need any paint at all and would save this work, but at this stage it just appears it's the yoke/back that needs paint so really it's won't be that hard to protect ;) 

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My big concern is that even with acetone-sludge ABS paste or plastic welder and all that, it'll still be a discontinuity in the material, and therefore a weak point in an area that flexes to get that item on and off. So it will crack, sooner or later. And any repair is always going to be less than the integrity of the original finished piece, so I try to engineer or overengineer to prevent the damage in the first place.

 

I'm going Cardinal, so mine's getting painted regardless of whatever else. So that's also not a concern for me. I've got a pretty darn tough automotive wheel clearcoat to protect the finish from chipping, too. So I'm going ot do me level best to make sure it doesn't get damaged from the inside. The stupid part is that it probably isn't necessary. As with Phasma, the shoulders will be covered by the cape, so I could really just do a hinge or flex joint. But I want to go the distance, since there could very well be times the cape gets thrown back and the shoulders exposed.

 

I want to say more, but really shouldn't until I've had a chance to hold those two pieces and look at the join from many angles and see how everything lines up and how much excess I may have to work with.

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Apologies if this has been stated already but have basic approval guidelines ever changed for armors? Does the CRL base anything on behind the scenes  set pics like the ones posted in this thread? Or strictly based on what's on screen?   Do the KB or Jimmi kits have seamless back/yoke?


Jimmi kits have a seamless back and yoke. This is his v5 Back/Yoke IMG_8914.jpgIMG_8913.jpg


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On ‎2‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 1:08 AM, kungfugrip12 said:

 Do the KB or Jimmi kits have seamless back/yoke?

Last time I had seen a KB it was joined in the back like alpha Anovos kits.

 

Mimic was offering a seamless yoke/back but he seams to have disappeared.

 

Still waiting on updates from other makers (who also seem to have gone quiet) as to if they have updated their kits.

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The KB if you make it flush enough and trim it right you almost done notice the seam. I'm prob gonna touch up the one I'm working on now with abs paste.

 

The KB kit is shockingly very similar to what I'm seeing from Anovos they must have been both thinking the same things

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Seems like a huge disservice to not allow the hinge on the yolk, especially given some evidence of screen-worn suits having it (maybe level 1 cert?). I've owned a KB kit for years now and between the yolk cracking and the paint, it's in rough shape overall and I rarely want to troop with it. To have to paint and mold these Anovos kits means the same issues. As troopers we would look much better with clean shiny ABS rather than paint IMO and having the hinge means less repairs. I wouldn't say we should compromise accuracy to accommodate for the rigors of trooping, but in this case there is evidence of these modifications. 

 

The TD is another story.. it's just not possible to use vacuum formed ABS and have no seams. Not sure the plan there..

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35 minutes ago, UT Trooper said:

Seems like a huge disservice to not allow the hinge on the yolk, especially given some evidence of screen-worn suits having it (maybe level 1 cert?). I've owned a KB kit for years now and between the yolk cracking and the paint, it's in rough shape overall and I rarely want to troop with it. To have to paint and mold these Anovos kits means the same issues. As troopers we would look much better with clean shiny ABS rather than paint IMO and having the hinge means less repairs. I wouldn't say we should compromise accuracy to accommodate for the rigors of trooping, but in this case there is evidence of these modifications. 

 

The TD is another story.. it's just not possible to use vacuum formed ABS and have no seams. Not sure the plan there..

I would totally agree with you on allowing the hinge for durability, ease of use and not painting however given there is no cannon proof it probably will just be a nice dream.

 

We better start looking at some high def screen shots of the TLJ troopers and Executioner. Maybe the hinge is there afterall?

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1 hour ago, UT Trooper said:

Seems like a huge disservice to not allow the hinge on the yolk, especially given some evidence of screen-worn suits having it (maybe level 1 cert?). I've owned a KB kit for years now and between the yolk cracking and the paint, it's in rough shape overall and I rarely want to troop with it. To have to paint and mold these Anovos kits means the same issues. As troopers we would look much better with clean shiny ABS rather than paint IMO and having the hinge means less repairs. I wouldn't say we should compromise accuracy to accommodate for the rigors of trooping, but in this case there is evidence of these modifications. 

 

The TD is another story.. it's just not possible to use vacuum formed ABS and have no seams. Not sure the plan there..

Maybe someone will offer rotocast TDs and one-piece yokes down the road. I’d gladly pay a premium if they existed.

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That email they just sent out ( guaranteeing ) shipping this year to people who purchase now ? lol they really confident I like it !!


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FYI, Anovos replied to my query regarding the TLJ helmet being shown in the latest email update and what it means for us:

 

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Hello Brien,

We've made modifications to the kit since its initial offering, as previously discussed in our updates. As such, the newer kits will be shipping with the TLJ helmets by default, but we are looking into the possibility of a limited run of TFA helmets to cover earlier orders on a case-by-case basis (as the helmet ships separately from the main kit). We'll have more on this in future updates for those who purchased the kit with the helmet.  

Regards,

J. James

 

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Sweet! I was just thinking about contacting them to see if an upgrade to the TLJ helmets would be possible. The final line "helmet ships separately from main kit" is a worry though...

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Tangentially related, I just got am e-mail earlier that their F-11D kit is back up for pre-order. Doing another run. So if you missed it last time...

 

A reminder, this is the "Standard" trooper model -- no shoulder stock, mounts to thigh bracket. Not the upscaled "Heavy" version. So if you're doing a Phasma or FOHWT, this isn't the correct blaster.

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1 hour ago, Peregrinus said:

Tangentially related, I just got am e-mail earlier that their F-11D kit is back up for pre-order. Doing another run. So if you missed it last time...

 

A reminder, this is the "Standard" trooper model -- no shoulder stock, mounts to thigh bracket. Not the upscaled "Heavy" version. So if you're doing a Phasma or FOHWT, this isn't the correct blaster.

Also, the front stock is one molded piece that is not configurable. I have one from the last batch. Whole thing is orange and will be fine when I assemble it, but is not able to be upgraded for higher approval. I’ll need to get a different kit in order to have it get Centurian. 

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I wonder how that works if I ordered the basic kit and both of the basic helmets? Are they going to still ship the basic TFA helmets that were ordered 2 years ago? Also, has anyone ever returned anything? I bought the premium neck seal 2 years ago (still hasn't shipped), but I bought Pinky's whole gasket setup last year - so I won't have any use for just the premium neck seal by itself anymore. 

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I wonder how that works if I ordered the basic kit and both of the basic helmets? Are they going to still ship the basic TFA helmets that were ordered 2 years ago? Also, has anyone ever returned anything? I bought the premium neck seal 2 years ago (still hasn't shipped), but I bought Pinky's whole gasket setup last year - so I won't have any use for just the premium neck seal by itself anymore. 

Her gaskets are comfy and she’s sweet !


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7 hours ago, yodaclaus said:

Also, the front stock is one molded piece that is not configurable. I have one from the last batch. Whole thing is orange and will be fine when I assemble it, but is not able to be upgraded for higher approval. I’ll need to get a different kit in order to have it get Centurian. 

I'd recommend the kit, and then 3D printing 5thHorseman's foregrip and lower rail pieces. Side-by-side comparison shows that, after all his revisions, his final version is within a couple millimeters in every direction, or better. So those pieces should fit on the ANOVOS kit juuuuust fine.

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4 hours ago, ultravtec757 said:

I wonder how that works if I ordered the basic kit and both of the basic helmets? Are they going to still ship the basic TFA helmets that were ordered 2 years ago? Also, has anyone ever returned anything? I bought the premium neck seal 2 years ago (still hasn't shipped), but I bought Pinky's whole gasket setup last year - so I won't have any use for just the premium neck seal by itself anymore. 

If you ordered a TFA and a TLJ helmet I would assume they would send you both.

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14 minutes ago, bear0902 said:


Her gaskets are comfy emoji39.png and she’s sweet !


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She really is the best!

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