CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 I am having the worst trouble with my thigh armor connections to my ab plate. Everytime I troop these keep popping off, so my thigh armor drops to my knees. I have tried many different ways. Currently I am using the black 2" elastic with snaps. However, I do not think I am doing the snaps properly. They keep unsnapping. Does anyone know of a good way to make these connections so they are solid? Also, what is the best method for installing snaps? I keep messing up the installs so the snaps do not work. I have been using a tool and also using the other method. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 You could also use a belt round the waist, under the armour, with elastic loops for each thigh. Either attach to thighs with snaps or (as I have) use Stelmax 1985 to glue the elastics inside thigh fronts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale3van5[TK] Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 You could also use a belt round the waist, under the armour, with elastic loops for each thigh. Either attach to thighs with snaps or (as I have) use Stelmax 1985 to glue the elastics inside thigh fronts.I've done the same way, belt under armour with elastic loops, keeps in place but doesn't pull down on the torso Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 I've done the same way, belt under armour with elastic loops, keeps in place but doesn't pull down on the torso Dale I tried that and it slipped down. Going to try adding suspenders. TK/HWT 10204 501st Imperial Attaché Carolina Garrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magni[TK] Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 How about leaving a little elastic past the snaps and adding Velcro to help snap with the pulling force's. I myself have a vest that the thigh's and pretty much everything else hangs from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 I use a belt with elastic suspenders, has worked well for over 3 years. From the belt I have looped elastic straps with adjusters in case they stretch, then double snaps to the inside top of thighs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 How about leaving a little elastic past the snaps and adding Velcro to help snap with the pulling force's. I myself have a vest that the thigh's and pretty much everything else hangs from.Pics? TK/HWT 10204 501st Imperial Attaché Carolina Garrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 I use a belt with elastic suspenders, has worked well for over 3 years. From the belt I have looped elastic straps with adjusters in case they stretch, then double snaps to the inside top of thighs.Pics? TK/HWT 10204 501st Imperial Attaché Carolina Garrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Thanks for all of the advice TK/HWT 10204 501st Imperial Attaché Carolina Garrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magni[TK] Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Sent from my LGMS631 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmrhodes13[Staff] Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 On 11/27/2016 at 8:35 AM, CrookKnight said: Pics? I don't have my TK handy but here's a pic of my FO TK brace, use a back support for this one and Velcro, I've since upgraded with snaps, will give you an idea of the adjusters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 On 11/27/2016 at 9:42 AM, gmrhodes13 said: I don't have my TK handy but here's a pic of my FO TK brace, use a back support for this one and Velcro, I've since upgraded with snaps, will give you an idea of the adjusters. Very nice TK/HWT 10204 501st Imperial Attaché Carolina Garrison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justjoseph63[Staff] Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 I think this is one of the best parts of my armor I have ever invested in, Shawn: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/29991-thigh-garter-system/?hl=%2Bthigh+%2Bgarter+%2Bsystem It takes all of 20 seconds to put the belt on and attach the thighs. They have never slipped once, even after an 8 hours troop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer6769[501st] Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) I think this is one of the best parts of my armor I have ever invested in, Shawn: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/29991-thigh-garter-system/?hl=%2Bthigh+%2Bgarter+%2Bsystem It takes all of 20 seconds to put the belt on and attach the thighs. They have never slipped once, even after an 8 hours troop. Are the straps that attach to the thighs web straps or elastic straps? And do you use suspenders attached to your belt? Edited November 27, 2016 by Slayer6769 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) I think this is one of the best parts of my armor I have ever invested in, Shawn: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/29991-thigh-garter-system/?hl=%2Bthigh+%2Bgarter+%2Bsystem It takes all of 20 seconds to put the belt on and attach the thighs. They have never slipped once, even after an 8 hours troop. Looks great. Should be the perfect solution. I will need to add suspenders to the system. Edited November 27, 2016 by CrookKnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coloursergeant Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 I have elastic loops on the thigh armor that go around a nylon waist belt. I also use black nylon police duty belt suspenders to hold up the belt. You can get them on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F4HGJMC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I cross the suspender straps in front instead of wearing them straight up and down, as that keeps the straps from showing at the shoulder armor gaps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68Brick[TK] Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 A belt around the waist (with or without suspenders) is best. It takes the load off your torso armor and shoulder straps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Great info from everyone. Thanks. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Looks great. Should be the perfect solution. I will need to add suspenders to the system. Why? You haven't even tested it as-is yet. Don't over complicate things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Good point. I will try without them first. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 I've seen some ridiculously complicated strapping systems over the years. Some have had merit for special needs or just "feels luxurious". But most of them were just needlessly complicated without any benefits. More often than not they got in the way instead of helping. On that note I take some issue with the double snaps I saw on the pictures above. Double snaps hinder rotational movement by the straps, and that's not always a good thing. If you use quality snaps one snap is plenty strong enough to hold a few ounces of plastic against gravity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 I've seen some ridiculously complicated strapping systems over the years. Some have had merit for special needs or just "feels luxurious". But most of them were just needlessly complicated without any benefits. More often than not they got in the way instead of helping. On that note I take some issue with the double snaps I saw on the pictures above. Double snaps hinder rotational movement by the straps, and that's not always a good thing. If you use quality snaps one snap is plenty strong enough to hold a few ounces of plastic against gravity.I am going to start very simple. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman[TK] Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) This is as simple as it gets. Very robust system. Very inexpensive. One seam (per leg... you can hand sew if you don't have a machine) and some glue. Highly recommended. (except maybe mute the audio, LOL) I use a 2" webbing tool belt I got for $5 at Home Depot. (or just use any spare belt you already have) Very secure, no need for suspenders, but they'd be simple enough to clip on if you needed them. There are a lot of little things I want to tweak with my armor here and there, but this isn't one of them. It just works. Edited December 18, 2020 by gmrhodes13 link not working, removed gmrhodes13 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locitus[Admin] Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Yup, that's the way I'd recommend everyone doing the thighs. It's also the original way. Btw, one thing I noticed that surprised me a bit handling the original thighs of RS's suit was that the belt worn must have been very narrow, because I could barely fit a finger inside the loop, and I have very slender fingers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookKnight[TK] Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) On 12/1/2016 at 4:35 AM, kman said: This is as simple as it gets. Very robust system. Very inexpensive. One seam (per leg... you can hand sew if you don't have a machine) and some glue. Highly recommended. (except maybe mute the audio, LOL) I use a 2" webbing tool belt I got for $5 at Home Depot. (or just use any spare belt you already have) Very secure, no need for suspenders, but they'd be simple enough to clip on if you needed them. There are a lot of little things I want to tweak with my armor here and there, but this isn't one of them. It just works. On 12/1/2016 at 4:56 AM, Locitus said: Yup, that's the way I'd recommend everyone doing the thighs. It's also the original way. Btw, one thing I noticed that surprised me a bit handling the original thighs of RS's suit was that the belt worn must have been very narrow, because I could barely fit a finger inside the loop, and I have very slender fingers! Thanks for the info. I have already built a 2" belt out of 2" nylon webbing and buckle. Tonight I am going to create the loops and put 1 snap on each. For the connection to the inner thigh, I will just put 1 snap about 1 inch down the front interior. just have to remove the old ones. I have about a 3 mile walk (Christmas Parade) coming up on 12/11. So I need to make sure whatever I do works very well. Edited December 18, 2020 by gmrhodes13 link not working, removed gmrhodes13 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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