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Regarding the scammers known as "Head Shot Props"

They seem to be defunct now. (because their scamming became public knowledge, no doubt) 

Haven't seen any activity on their socials for about a year.

Being who they are though, I expect they will return (or are working) under a new alias. I'm told it's not the first time they've changed their name to avoid their bad reviews.

 

Stay safe and Good luck out there!

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On 12/11/2019 at 8:40 PM, Sly11 said:

Thank you for bringing this here Adam, warning other members of bad business practices like this is of great help to the community.

Sorry to hear of your unfortunate situation and we shall look at adding them to our buyer beware list.

Might not be recasting, but still assuredly they should remain on the buyer beware list due to their bad business practices.

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On 12/12/2019 at 6:24 AM, justjoseph63 said:

Thank you for sharing this.

 

NOTE:  I recently accused HSP of recasting, and would like to add my sincere apologies for this, as it is not the case.  It was an unfounded accusation due to my own misguided research.  Their kits (when built correctly) are 100% approvable at all levels.  I regret any harm this may have caused them, and wish them success in their future as suppliers of armor.  

 

While it wasn't the original discussion, it's good to note at least they aren't recasting. But unfortunately it still doesn't make up for how awful their communication is. Also, ever since we originally talked about Head Shot Props, I've talked to maybe a dozen or so more people who were put in the same situation as me. (paying and not receiving their kits nor a refund.) I think HSP has actually been removed from a few Facebook groups because of this.
Luckily a couple of us were able to bug them enough to finally get a response and get our money back. I hope that's the case for everyone else who they've wronged.

 

On a related note:
I know one of the makers of their 3D files (I wont name here) and he does excellent work. But even he said that working with Joe and Chad was a mistake and feels bad that they are using his files in what they are doing.

Might not be recasting, but still assuredly they should remain on the buyer beware list due to their bad business practices.

[Michigander with a dream]

On 1/15/2020 at 3:55 AM, Junos said:

While I did search this thread, I didn't realise Headshot Props would be buried on page 13/14. I have now read the post and the attached PDF....

(I even searched their name on the entire forums, and this thread didn't come up! Hopefully for those who come after me to look........)
Headshot Props - Head shot Props - HSP

How disappointing! What the hell is this unprofessionalism?!?  So recent too?? I've heard good things about them from my Mando friends, and because of this 'over confidence' / 'reassurance' I had placed an order. (R1 TK Helm)I can say though, that none of them ever ordered, or preordered helmets / kits. Their Etsy site aswell, the only negatives I had seen were "slow shipping". r/501st and FISD while old, showed user interest in the armorer aswell. (They listed on the R1 TK Part lists)

Separating the awful... Unprofessionalism... from the actual products they sell...

While no way an excuse, perhaps its a telling sign... not to trust pre-orders? (From what I'm seeing on Adams PDF. Mentions of creating the molds for the kits. If i understand correctly?)  ANOVOS couldn't do it. The news is full of companies failing to provide products for preorders.

All in all, thank you for giving me notice of this. I'll be keeping a very very VERY close eye on dates and communications, to make sure I do not suffer the same issue Adam did. While I could be thought as 'Nieves' / 'Stubborn', I will not be pulled around on a thread, and will have no problem with contacting Paypal before the refund expires.

Hopefully, selling helmets already cast, is something Headshot Props is capable of doing, as their Facebook, Etsy and Mando fans say..... I'll keep posted. 

 

Glad I could give warning! I'll be interested to see how it goes.

[Juno's R1TK: 850 armorworks and more.]

On 1/19/2020 at 4:10 PM, Junos said:

How late was it? Your R1 thread was an inspiration for mine. Online the listing has a ship date within 10 days, and when asked, HSP's Joe said its accurate and in stock.

 

Ordered mine in late 2018, never saw it, finally canceled my order in early 2020...

Also they refused to refund me for a long while... Wouldn't do business with them again.

Hope all is well for you.

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On 12/12/2019 at 6:24 AM, justjoseph63 said:

So sorry you got burned, Adam, but thank you for sharing this with us.

Not just a bad seller, but definitely a re-caster as well.  That is in an exact replica of an 850 Armor Works bucket that they copied and are passing as their own.  Added to re-casters list on first page.  I also alphabetized them.

And thanks for maintaining the list! I might never have noticed they were stealing designs! Not a fan of dirty re-casters.

EDIT: Turns out might not be completely recasting, but still should remain on the buyer beware list due to their bad business practices.

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Here's a PDF of the actual past conversations with Head Shot Props (Joe M and Chad R)

I'm honestly kind-of hoping that higher-ups see this and "blacklist" them. I'd hate for them to try and scam more people in the future.

Head Shot Props - please read annotations.pdf

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Do not order form Head Shot Props.

Recently had an obnoxious dealing with Head Shot Props. I posted on reddit and we thought it wise to post it here as well since I wasn't alone in  having problems with them. Here's what my post(s) was:

 

 

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I placed a order back in 2018 and they said it would take about 6 months to create. (Sort of a long turnaround, but sure, I was in no hurry.)

When the expected delivery date came, I asked for a status update on the build. They had NOTHING to show. They claimed to have been ill for several weeks... Anyway I gave them the benefit of the doubt and told them to take the time they needed because you can't rush art.

More months go by with me politely pressing for any sort of update and them obviously ignoring my messages, until I finally I decide enough it enough and I file a dispute with paypal. Unfortunately paypal only protects orders within 180 days.

After pestering them some more, I get them to agree to send me a refund within 30 days... 30 days later...? They say that they WILL NOT refund me. At this point, it's clear that I will not see that money again... So I make a plea to them saying to just send the order, but if they can't deliver before the end of the year, just send the a refund. They agree.

Here we are coming up on 2020... and there is still no progress and no refund. I've submitted a report to the Better Business Bureau, but I'm hoping with this post that I can at least warn potential victims.

 

TLDR; Do not order form Head Shot Props.

Head Shot Props has TERRIBLE communication, comes up with excuses to miss delivery dates, lies about offering refunds, and simply DOES NOT DELIVER. If you still choose to order from them, make sure you are privy to the regulations of Paypal and don't hesitate to file a claim before that window closes...

 

 

 

[HELMETS]

On 8/28/2018 at 12:47 PM, grenaidan said:

HEADSHOT PROPS

 

Since you mentioned them, I thought I'd post a warning. I'd would say don't buy from Head Shot Props. They might have been okay at one time, but they've gone downhill. They have horrible communication. I made an order for R1 back in 2018 and it never arrived (now coming up on 2020) Even with the extensive delays (totaling over a year) they failed to give any significant progress update on the project. I asked for a refund/cancellation since they didn't deliver: They lied and said I would receive it in <30 days. (which never happened)

Hope nobody else falls into this trap like me!

Unfortunately I'm just out that money since most payment protections (Looking at you, Paypal) only last a few months.... Guess I'm S.O.L.

[ROTK build (so far helmet only)]

On 2/12/2019 at 11:40 AM, tsongololo said:

Head Shot Props

For those stumbling curiously upon this thread, I thought I'd post a warning. I'd avoid purchasing from Head Shot Props. Very poor communication. Made an order for R1 back in 2018 and it still hasn't arrived (now coming up on 2020) And there hasn't been a lick of proof of significant progress. They also lied about offering me a refund since they didn't deliver.

Hope nobody else falls into this trap!

Unfortunately I'm just out of that money. ...I guess sh*t happens, and I'm a much more cautious shopper now. :)

[Rogue One TK Builds Roster]

I was hoping to vet this maker and I can safely say:

DO NOT ORDER FROM HEAD SHOT PROPS

It's been over a year and after multiple conversations with them: No kit, no progress pictures, no refund in sight.

They now have a reputation for taking pre-orders without ever delivering,

I've already filed a complaint with Paypal, my Bank, and the Better Business Bureau but I'm not expecting to see my money or the kit...

 

Guess I'll chalk this one up as a loss and become a cautionary tale for you all!

[Rogue One TK Builds Roster]

On 8/9/2019 at 7:00 PM, MMcFett said:

Are you a part of the Facebook group for the build? That's the only updates I've seen and it has been a while.

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Yes I am in that group. A few weeks ago HSP said they were willing to work with since I have been so polite with them. I'll try and report back on what happens next...

I really feel bad for canceling on them, but the order i placed in November 2018 was promised to ship back in April 2019 and now it's extended to at least December 2019. (So much for a summer project, lmao)

SIDE NOTE: Do be cautious when paying for pre-orders via paypal. There is a 120-day policy that if you stray beyond, there's no guarantee you'll be protected in case of a naughty trickster. (Though I'm sure Joe/Chad have good intentions, they just struggle with transparency.)

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On 8/8/2018 at 8:50 AM, MMcFett said:

I'm hoping to do a R1TK with the kit from Head Shot Props, if it pans out.

I ordered the full R1TK that HSP said would ship back in April. I've been very patient with them not trying to spam them or rush their art, but I haven't seen any updates in months and HSP is really bad about responding to any questions. For that reason I'm politely asking him to cancel my order and refund me. The whole experience with them has kind of left a bad taste in my mouth.