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Daetrin

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  1. Truth.  All it would take it for some artist to draw you up and stick it in a SW comic or other source and there you go.  This is how the Magma Trooper (red TK) got created. Someone painted their TK red to a convention, an artist saw it and then got it created (can't recall if it was a figure or comic first).  Clone Emperor same thing.  Thomas Spanos created the costume based off a book, an LFL artist used Thomas as the template for creating the art.

     

    Also, as I said the entire RP was created by a single trading card that had an ROTJ IC on it and the text below was "reserve pilot".  That's it.

     

    Strange?  Perhaps, but TRUE!


  2. The CRLs are meant to be the canonical trooper, and not to represent flubs and one-offs.  If people want to troop with this as an alternative that IMHO pretty cool, but just like Mr. No Stripes or the one or two TKs that if you freeze frame you can see have no holster, these are just things that weren't meant to be standard.  ANH is riddled with such types of variations as when you looked at it in the movies in '77 nobody noticed, so nobody cared about that level of consistency.

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  3. Let's also remember that in the 70's no one paid attention to such details.  Lucas just put people in whatever order to make the shot good.  Many people with different rank bars are called simply "commander".   That's why there truly was no rhyme nor reason back then - because there wasn't. :)  Anything you see on wikis etc. is all just retcon (for the OT stuff at least).


  4. 4 minutes ago, Colin1138 said:

    Just thinking out loud here...but would there be enough grounds to split the ROTJ CRL into two versions? Along similar lines to the ANH-S and ANH-H? The guys on the Deathstar,and the Landing pad had a good number of differences to the Grunts on Endor(lets call them 'stunts'?)

    For example- DS guys were all shiny clean, bubble lenses, all holsters,all Thermal Dets; Endor guys were weathered, had flat lenses and a lot of them (too many IMO to be accidental omissions) had missing holsters,missing Dets, or were missing both.

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    Perhaps two options of a single CRL.  If we were to do the CRLs from the start today, ANH would be a single CRL with Hero/Stunt being two options of that single CRL for example.


  5. FYI if you have not seen this already, there is a thread on SpecOps for this costume

     

    https://forum.specops501st.com/index.php?/topic/6288-rocket-trooper-bf2/&fbclid=IwAR0Uro-n80yG1lzBF6fV9KcXb8ZscyGDwFFYWQ6o5Gsxf-mQ08FwI6O_NDU&_fromLogin=1

     

    The CRL will be created there, as SpecOps owns the costume. That said, it's been great for you to show your progress here - it's a sexy trooper for sure.

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  6. It happens.  You are on yet another boring gate guard detail and are trying to relax with a cup of brew.  You throw on the latest pod races on the closed circuit screens (hey, it's not like anyone is sneaking on a secret battle station, right?) put your feet up on the desk, lean back and start catching up on the latest FISD news on your data pad.  Ah...the good life.

     

    Then out of nowhere, you can't get to the forums - it's like they are down. What gives?  Did Lord Vader find out you piping pod racing again?  Yeesh, doesn't he have something better to do, like track down rebels or something?  Then again, maybe he doesn't.  A cold bead of sweat starts rolling down your forehead....

     

    Fear not - it's all good!  The 501st Legion's webmasters are just trying to integrate the FISD forums with the Legion membership database and from time to time the forum servers are bounced.  So it's not you at all, my good trooper!

     

    Wait, why are they doing this you ask?   Ah...well you know how it's nearing election time and we get all kinds of requests to validate detachment membership, right?  And each year it's a monumental task to try to get everything sync'd between the FISD servers and the Legion database, right?  

     

    Well, your support request prayers have been answered!  When the LWM team has completed their work, the Legion's database can simply pull membership data from FISD and automatically update membership requests.  How cool is that?  Surely worth a few server bounces, right?

     

    Huge thanks to the LWMs, especially Cari, for making this possible.  Cheers Cari!

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  7. If it helps, I'm 6'0" and am about 175lbs.  I've worn TE2/ATA and actually it fit well except for the shins, which I swapped out for RT ones.  IIRC the actors who wore the armor in the movies were like 5'10", so that or a little shorter is about the ideal height I reckon.  You can pay makers like RS to pre-build for you, or some others in local garrisons do as well.


  8. 2 hours ago, CableGuy said:

    Personally, I don't see a problem with this as a separate award. This sounds more like MEPD's SWAT. At some point in the future I will be getting myself an RS HDPE lid (next time they do a run) and will be trying my hardest to create a replica of the original helmets, warts and all. If money allows, I would love to create a full suit of actual "Screen accurate" armour, including weathered gaffer tape, cracks where applicable, and replicate a seen-on-screen trooper. However, I know that this could not be officially trooped as we, in the 501st and the FISD, use the CRL to follow a set of 'ideals'. The CRL is not all about screen accuracy, as screen accuracy actually includes a lot of damage and issues that we could not sustain through weekly/monthly trooping.

     

    My understanding of the CRL, including EIB and Centurion, was to create an "ideal". Trying to create what we, as a community, feel that the TK was intended to look like based on the reference material available to us, and help us look uniformed as a group when we troop. That's why we don't allow "Mr. No Stripes", or troopers without their holster, even though these are "screen accurate". When we all finish our TK build, it looks like it is fresh form the Imperial Armoury - did a single TK in ANH look like this?? As we are all different weights and sizes, different armour kits vary in terms of mould quality, colour (based on PVC/ABS/acrylic capped ABS etc)., we are never going to look the same.

     

    To me, the beauty of having Basic, EIB and Centurion is that people have the choice. If they want to buy a kit and aim for basic, that's all good. If someone wants to spend hours searching build threads, reference photos, tutorials, the movies themselves, I think it's great that they can work towards Centurion. As most of the "suggestions" here are based around the higher levels, I can't see that this should cause to much of an issue. 

     

    The great thing about this 5 page discussion is that this, in itself, is spreading awareness. As many of us do on the forum, we will offer advice where it is requested - the more awareness of these build "suggestions" across the community, the better, as more and more prospective troopers will see the options available to them from day one of their journey. :salute:

     

     

     

    For history, MEPD Swat = FISD Centurion.  I worked with the MEPD DL at the time to ensure that it was the same program goals. Centurion is to represent the highest level of accuracy that can be allowed in the 501st, as you know the 501st is not a prop replication club but a costuming club.

     

    We don't allow Mr. No Stripes, etc. as they are costume flubs.  Also, while every sandtrooper looked slightly different, the intent of the stormtrooper was to be identical.  For instance there are one or two quick scenes where you see a TK without a holster, but again these are obvious costume department misses that were not uncommon for such films in the 70's.

     

    Actually if you look at the films, there is some wear on various TKs, so at some point even a clean TK - again if you really want to go all the way - should be OK to have some slight scuffs for ANH and also ROTJ.

     

    You are right though, the point of these programs was to offer choice, even waaaay back in the day when it all started.  Some people just want a basic costume, especially if it's a secondary costume or they are starting out.  Some want to go all out.  Deployed/EI, etc. were developed to have a path for those who want to go beyond base CRL.   SWAT/Centurion for those who want to take it as far as they can without going so far that the costume can't be approved (e.g.. gaffers tape, crappy paint).

     

    A fourth award would render a costume not 501st approvable, e.g. if you really wanted to go to prop replication.

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